China confirms plans for manned moon landing

[ChineseTiger1986]

And Robert Goddard. History can be so inconvenient to the Chinese boys here.

Von Braun is the father of Saturn V. Without him, it would be hard for US to make its moon landing ahead of USSR.

The USSR failed to make the moon landing just because of the loss of its top space scientist Korolev, therefore USA wouldn't end up much better without having a genius like von Braun.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Germany is a great country~~

It is also the historically number one technological contributor to USA, since imagine how many top notch scientists that US had stolen from Germany after WWII?

 

[gambit]

Von Braun is the father of Saturn V. Without him, it would be hard for US to make its moon landing ahead of USSR.

The USSR failed to make the moon landing just because of the loss of its top space scientist Korolev, therefore USA wouldn't end up much better without having a genius like von Braun.

This just goes to show how scientifically ignorant you really are. The space program itself consists of many disparate programs that do not depends on each other. Navigation or rather astrogation is one of those disciplines. You have no credible evidences to support your argument that the entire US space program live or die on von Braun. You need von Braun as a convenient lie. But if you want to go that route, we can say that the current Chinese space program would not exist unless the US space program succeeded.

 

[Kevrai]

Sorry China, But Pakistan led by the great Zaid Hamid is gonna reach the moon before you guys

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

This just goes to show how scientifically ignorant you really are. The space program itself consists of many disparate programs that do not depends on each other. Navigation or rather astrogation is one of those disciplines. You have no credible evidences to support your argument that the entire US space program live or die on von Braun. You need von Braun as a convenient lie. But if you want to go that route, we can say that the current Chinese space program would not exist unless the US space program succeeded.

Sometimes one single genius is better than a thousand of average guys put together, thus you cannot speculate how the US space program would end up without the contribution of von Braun.

 

[gambit]

Sometimes, a single genius is better than a thousand of average guys put together, thus you cannot speculate how the US space program would end up without the contribution of von Braun.

Your argument is valid only if you can prove that the US had no prior rocket experience. Can you do that?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Your argument is valid only if you can prove that the US had no prior rocket experience. Can you do that?

You can see how much NASA sucks right now without having a genius like von Braun.

It looks like the Ares Project is going to be pushed back to 2020 or even later.

 

[gambit]

You can see how much NASA sucks right now without having a genius like von Braun.

Sure have done much more than China with all that supposedly 'high Chinese IQ'.

It looks like the Ares Project is going to be pushed back to 2020 or even later.

This just goes to show how pathetic is your participation here if all you can do is take joy in a budgetary issue instead of the technical ones.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Sure have done much more than China with all that supposedly 'high Chinese IQ'.


This just goes to show how pathetic is your participation here if all you can do is take joy in a budgetary issue instead of the technical ones.

US already stands from a higher ground perspective compared to China.

But in term of the progression, the US space program has done nothing impressive or groundbreaking achievement in the last decade, everything is just plain mediocre.

However, China's space program from 2001 to 2011, the progression is indeed enormous compared to US.

 

[Veritas]

I did not bother reading other post except the first one. I would be super happy if Chinese or any other country went on a manned mission to Moon... the more the merrier. It is good news for all the humanity. PERIOD.

 

[gambit]

US always stands from a higher ground perspective compared to China.

But in term of the progression, the US space program has done nothing impressive or groundbreaking achievement in the last decade, everything is just plain mediocre.

However, China's space program from 2001 to 2011, the progression is indeed enormous compared to US.

Yeah...A fleet of REUSABLE vehicles is pretty mediocre. The Soviets tried to copy it and failed. Let US know when China have something similar.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yeah...A fleet of REUSABLE vehicles is pretty mediocre. The Soviets tried to copy it and failed. Let US know when China have something similar.

Too bad it is always retired, now US fully relies on the Russian manned spacecraft.

If the space shuttle is flawless, then it wouldn't become retired at early age.

 

[gambit]

Too bad it is always retired, now US fully relies on the Russian manned spacecraft.

If the space shuttle is flawless, then it wouldn't become retired at early age.

Who said the Space Shuttle is 'flawless'? This just goes to show -- again -- your scientific and technical ignorance about this subject. For US, you demand perfection, but for everyone else, you give all sort of latitude. But it could be argued that by applying perfection against US, it shows how far ahead we really are.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Who said the Space Shuttle is 'flawless'? This just goes to show -- again -- your scientific and technical ignorance about this subject. For US, you demand perfection, but for everyone else, you give all sort of latitude. But it could be argued that by applying perfection against US, it shows how far ahead we really are.

The space shuttle was the technology of yesterday, China is not interested to waste its money to develop on an outdated technological concept.

The space plane is China's true future goal, which is far more advanced than the retired space shuttle.

 

[Veritas]

Too bad it is always retired, now US fully relies on the Russian manned spacecraft.

If the space shuttle is flawless, then it wouldn't become retired at early age.

Congrats, you already have won the bone-head of the year 2012 award on the first day of the new year.

For the rest, Space Shuttle mission was retired because of the high-cost. No other country had space shuttle success like US. I am all for Chinese being successful with their manned mission but come on, one has to respect the trailblazers if you have to understand what kind of challenge one is under-taking.