China Civilian Nuclear Industry, Technology, Exports and Supply Chain: News & Discussions

[cirr]

Yes, we certainly need to make more, far more, nuclear warheads so that we might play an active role in safeguarding world peace and stability.

Ground broken on China's first national nuclear industrial park

Staff Reporter

2015-08-27

CNNC's company logo. (File photo/CFP)

Construction of what is claimed to be China's first national nuclear industrial park has begun quietly in the northwestern province of Gansu, which is expected to focus on the processing of spent fuel, according to Shanghai's National Business Daily.

According to the website of Gansu's industrial authorities, the province and China National Nuclear Corp (CNNC) held a ceremony to break ground on the industrial park on July 2, which is claimed to be the first of such national projects for the nuclear industry.

The provincial government did not disclose the amount of investment in and location of the industrial park, but the paper's reporters found the site on its own in Jiuquan city, Jinta county. Only a gate, temporary buildings, a steel tower, an unfinished water pipeline and scattered construction equipment were found on the site located deep in the Gobi Desert, the paper said.

Two companies under the CNNC subsidiary, China Nuclear Fuel, have been linked to the industrial park and led to speculation about the park's focus on processing spent fuel, according to the newspaper.

The two companies are CNNC Longrui, which is handling the construction of a water supply system of the industrial park and CNNC's 404 unit, which runs the country's largest nuclear industry production and research facility in Jiayuguan city next to Jiuquan, the report noted.

The website of Lanzhou University in Gansu's provincial capital showed that CNNC Longrui has undertaken the country's first pilot project to process spent fuel on an industrial scale, while 404's own website said one of targets set for this year is to trail run a processing facility to extract uranium from spent fuel, the report pointed out.

A 404 official surnamed Wang confirmed that the company and CNNC Longrui are both involved in the processing of spent fuel, but declined a request for an interview.

The industrial park is expected to drive Gansu's economy, not only from the business generated by the spent fuel processing, but also from the construction of the park, which will be sourced locally under an agreement between CNNC and Gansu, the paper said.

However, concerns over the planned operations involving nuclear waste have led to CNNC's public relation campaigns that highlight the difference between nuclear waste and spent fuel, the report added.

Ground broken on China's first national nuclear industrial park｜WCT

 

[IR-TR]

Far, far more warheads? No, totally unnecessary. Just costs a lot. Nukes don't 'safeguard' foreign peace, they just stop foreign powers from attacking you (MAD). Just need some 300-400 total, nothing more. Most of them based on subs too. The US is just being forced by their own arms industry to have so many nukes, they don't matter at all, and are costing them trillions to keep up. I mean really, nukes dropped from an old slow B-52?? Silly.

 

[Economic superpower]

Far, far more warheads? No, totally unnecessary. Just costs a lot. Nukes don't 'safeguard' foreign peace, they just stop foreign powers from attacking you (MAD). Just need some 300-400 total, nothing more. Most of them based on subs too. The US is just being forced by their own arms industry to have so many nukes, they don't matter at all, and are costing them trillions to keep up. I mean really, nukes dropped from an old slow B-52?? Silly.

Nuclear deterrence is the ultimate deterrence against the US.

The point is to not go to war and having a large nuclear arsenal is the best form of deterrence.

 

[IR-TR]

Nuclear deterrence is the ultimate deterrence against the US.

The point is to not go to war and having a large nuclear arsenal is the best form of deterrence.

I think they are already deterred. Keep renewing the current arsenal, let those idiots pay for thousands and thousands of nukes. Those unnecessary thousands of nukes, instead of just hundreds, open up your budget for more missiles, fighter jets and navy ships/subs. Is there really a need for 5000 nukes?

 

[Economic superpower]

I think they are already deterred. Keep renewing the current arsenal, let those idiots pay for thousands and thousands of nukes. Those unnecessary thousands of nukes, instead of just hundreds, open up your budget for more missiles, fighter jets and navy ships/subs. Is there really a need for 5000 nukes?

Yes there is a need.

 

[IR-TR]

Yes there is a need.

Then what has China been waiting for? One of the many advantages China's system has over the US system, is that there is no extreme amount of lobbying by firms and special interest. China has the technology, the time and the money. Why haven't you built thousands of warheads? Because it's unnecessary and the government is logical. That's my take on it. Okay, at maximum a triad of 1000 nukes. But isn't that plenty?

 

[Jlaw]

I think they are already deterred. Keep renewing the current arsenal, let those idiots pay for thousands and thousands of nukes. Those unnecessary thousands of nukes, instead of just hundreds, open up your budget for more missiles, fighter jets and navy ships/subs. Is there really a need for 5000 nukes?

There is a need for 5000+ nukes. Even with our current stock piles, the west (primarily US) is still causing trouble in our backyard. In history we were threatened by nuclear weapons at least two times.

That is the reality. Nuclear weapons is like money, you can never have enough of it.

 

[IR-TR]

There is a need for 5000+ nukes. Even with our current stock piles, the west (primarily US) is still causing trouble in our backyard. In history we were threatened by nuclear weapons at least two times.

That is the reality. Nuclear weapons is like money, you can never have enough of it.

Yeah, kinda nonsense. I know enough about MAD and triads and nukes to know this is BS. When you were 'threatened' with nukes, the situation was very different. You guys were way behind in nuke tech. Now you have plentiful second strike capabilities and a complete triad. You should improve on delivery vehicles (more SSBNs, modern large bombers etc), but 5000 nukes? No my friend, I'd rather have 1000-1500 nukes and a LOT more frigates/destroyers/subs etc for the rest of the money.

 

[Jlaw]

Yeah, kinda nonsense. I know enough about MAD and triads and nukes to know this is BS. When you were 'threatened' with nukes, the situation was very different. You guys were way behind in nuke tech. Now you have plentiful second strike capabilities and a complete triad. You should improve on delivery vehicles (more SSBNs, modern large bombers etc), but 5000 nukes? No my friend, I'd rather have 1000-1500 nukes and a LOT more frigates/destroyers/subs etc for the rest of the money.

PLA military people would know a lot more about the situation and will act accordingly. We are also building more frigates/destroyers/subs along with a better nuclear deterrence.

 

[TaiShang]

I guess, I much as the number of China's nuclear warheads (which I believe should be in lower to mid-1000s), an equal, if not more, priority must be given to developing advanced means to ensure the safe and speedy delivery of the warheads to their designated destination in times of serious crisis. Sitting on a stockpile won't help much if the opponent is as capable as the US. In that case, China should win the high-speed preparation, maneuverability and delivery race.

 

[Jlaw]

I guess, I much as the number of China's nuclear warheads (which I believe should be in lower to mid-1000s), an equal, if not more, priority must be given to developing advanced means to ensure the safe and speedy delivery of the warheads to their designated destination in times of serious crisis. Sitting on a stockpile won't help much if the opponent is as capable as the US. In that case, China should win the high-speed preparation, maneuverability and delivery race.

it doesnt hurt to also have more nucelar weapons than your main enemy either. It would put more fear in their mind and at least get them out of our sphere of influence.

 

[Viet]

Why not 20,000, to ensure a total annihilation of your enemies America and Russia?
20,000 were the amount of nuclear warheads the United States and USSR possessed during the cold war.

 

[Place Of Space]

Why not 20,000, to ensure a total annihilation of your enemies America and Russia?
20,000 were the amount of nuclear warheads the United States and USSR possessed during the cold war.

It's about nuclear power plant / reactor, my cute buddy, not weapon.

 

[cirr]

A certain facility in this “industrial park” is built to extract weapons-grade substance from spent fuel。

Killing 2 birds with 1 stone。

 

[cirr]

Fuel loading begins at first Changjiang unit

27 August 2015

The loading of fuel has started at unit 1 of the Changjiang nuclear power plant, under construction on China's southern island province of Hainan. The reactor is expected to begin operating later this year.

Fuel loading operations at Changjiang 1 (Image: CNNC)

The first fuel assemblies were loaded into the core of Changjiang 1 on 26 August, China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC) announced. Preparatory work and the loading of the first assemblies was overseen by representatives from China's National Nuclear Security Administration.

CNNC said the operation to load a total of 121 fuel assemblies into the 650 MWe CNP-600 pressurized water reactor is expected to take two or three days. The milestone of fuel loading means that the unit has "officially entered the operational phase", the company said.

Initial approval for the Changjiang plant's construction was granted by China's National Developmental and Reform Commission in July 2008. Early site works began in December 2008. Construction of unit 1 began with the pouring of first concrete on 25 April 2010, while that for unit 2 was poured on 21 November 2010. Changjiang 1 is scheduled to begin operating by the end of 2015, with unit 2 set to start up next year.

The plant, near Hoi Mei Tong village in China's Hainan province, is being built as a joint venture between CNNC and China Huaneng Group, with shares split 51% and 49%, respectively. The plant will eventually comprise four units, with units 3 and 4 housing either CNP-650 or ACP-600 reactors. Construction of both those units is scheduled to begin by 2018.

CNNC said the island province of Hainan has been suffering power shortage problems this year, but this situation will be eased when unit 1 begins operating. It noted that when both units 1 and 2 of the Changjiang plant are in operation next year, the plant will account for 30% of Hainan's power generation.

Fuel loading begins at first Changjiang unit