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@Nilgiri
Where does the Nagpur Boeing Tata facility fit in ?
Have a friend working their and they are mfg some actual plane parts rather than the linen seats chinese plant will outfit.
2ndly what does this mean for the small passanger jet being mfd by the chinese ?
Is this a thumbs down for it even though that plane is sourcing most of its critical parts from non chinese sources.

That (Nagpur) would be outsourcing of components for manufacturing by Boeing. They have been doing this for some time now (worldwide incl China as well I believe). As for which one (component fab vs MRO plus) has more MVA overall/per worker, depends on the details.

I doubt this boeing MRO plus facility would affect China's own aviation projects.

Capital expenditure on imports (both private and govt) and exports should be looked at in nominal currency. All other domestic expenditure should be looked at in PPP. Day to day consumer spending is a HUGE part of the economy. Taking haircut, catching a bus to work, buying a toilet cleaner and buying a burger together will be several hundred times what the drone industry represents.

In any case for a large part of Chinese exports (soft toys, Christmas decoration, Trump masks etc.) neither PPP not Nominal can be used as an accurate measure. A lot of this is sold by weight in shipping rather than as price per unit.

Yup this is what I meant earlier by extrapolating your export/import composition to the whole economy.

Huge parts of the economy do not follow the same price levels or composition as that which is exported/imported....so one has to be careful with application of direct exchange rate to the whole GDP (in whatever local currency).
 
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It wasn't too long ago in the other Asian section, some superpowa was cheering when they said Boeing was going to invest in their country making this country a maintenance hub .

Which country will do maintainance for their airplanes in India? They must be either dirt poor or very courageous. I doubt that even India's airliners would hesitate to hand over their airplanes to an Indian maintenance shop.

Emotional and poorly educated are common characters of Indian, which are enemy of quality. The workers can never make anything quality in mass scale with such characters.
 
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It wasn't too long ago in the other Asian section, some superpowa was cheering when they said Boeing was going to invest in their country making this country a maintenance hub for all Boeing airplanes. Now they're trolling here because this news is hurting their pride.


PPP only make sense if you're a supapowa and you want to make fun of Pakistan's economy or chest thump.
Poor people who cannot even afford a smart phone always brag about their PPP so that they can afford enough onion and rice.....LMAO
 
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Boeing Makes China Landing in Scenic Coastal City
By Yang Ge

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A jetliner lands at Zhoushan Putuoshan Airport in Zhoushan, Zhejiang province, on July 25, 2012. The airport is undergoing a $109 million expansion as Boeing Co. plans to build a finishing facility in the city for company jetliners. Photo: Visual China

(Beijing) — Commercial aircraft giant Boeing Co. will break ground on a plane finishing facility in the Chinese city of Zhoushan by the end of this month.

The announcement marks the cumulation of years of lobbying by Beijing to move some production to a market that’s set to pass the U.S. to become the world’s largest for civil aviation in the next decade.

Preparatory work for the facility has been underway in the coastal city since Boeing first announced in fall its plans to form the assembly joint venture with Chinese plane maker Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China Ltd. (COMAC). Actual construction is nearly ready to begin, with the first Boeing 737 planes set to roll off the new production line at the end of next year, the official Xinhua News Agency reported.

The facility will engage mainly in final assembly work for Boeing’s most popular model, including installation of entertainment systems, seats and other interior decoration elements. The facility will eventually have the capacity to produce 100 planes per year, and will employ about 2,000.

It will be Boeing’s first plane finishing center outside its home U.S. market.

To welcome one of the world’s top two commercial aircraft makers, Zhoushan is performing a major expansion of its regional Putuoshan Airport, which is expected to cost about 750 million yuan ($109 million). Work will include expedited construction of international facilities, and Zhoushan is also developing an aviation industrial park to promote the sector.

China is the world’s fastest-growing major aviation market, and is expected to surpass the U.S. by 2024 on explosive demand from the nation’s fast-growing middle class, according to the International Air Transport Association. The number of domestic and international travelers in the country is expected to reach 927 million by that year, nearly double the 487 million who took flights in to, out of or within China in 2015.

Boeing said in fall it expects that Chinese airlines are expected to buy planes worth more than $1 trillion over the next 20 years to meet rapidly expanding demand. It added it expects air traffic to grow by 6.4% annually in China over that period.

Boeing’s chief rival, Airbus SAS, set up its first China production facility in 2008 in the port city of Tianjin, also its first outside of its home European market. That facility also does final assembly work for Airbus’ most popular model, the A320, and is a joint venture with Chinese partners Tianjin Free Trade Zone and China Aviation Industry Corp.

As one of the world’s biggest aircraft buyers, Beijing has lobbied for years to get both Airbus and Boeing to set up production facilities and transfer more of their technology to China. The country is also developing its own large airliner, the Comac C919, which it hopes can someday compete with the Boeing 737 and Airbus 320 for a slice of the lucrative global commercial aviation market.
 
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C919 passenger jet passes assessment for maiden flight
Xinhua, March 25, 2017

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A C919, the first of the domestically produced large passenger aircraft, rolls off the assembly line in Shanghai on Nov. 2, 2015. [China Daily]

China's first large domestically designed and built passenger jetliner has passed a major technical assessment, bringing it closer to its maiden flight, sources with the developer said Saturday.

An evaluation committee consisting of 63 aviation specialists from across China has agreed the C919 is technically ready for its maiden flight, said the Shanghai-based aircraft maker, Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China (COMAC) in a press release.

The experts have worked in seven teams to assess the jet's design, structure and performances, which they have tested in labs, on board and during low-speed taxiing, it said.

The committee has proven the C919 is technically airworthy but the jet is still subject to electromagnetic compatibility and taxiing tests before it takes to the air.

The jet was built in 2015 and COMAC completed the onboard systems installation as well as major static and system integration tests before the technical assessment.

The C919, with over 150 seats and a standard range of 4,075 kilometers, is expected to compete with the updated Airbus 320 and Boeing's new-generation 737, which currently dominate the market.

By the end of 2016, 21 customers had placed orders for more than 500 C919 aircraft, and COMAC expects to sell at least 2,000.

China's first regional commercial aircraft, the ARJ21, began commercial operation in June 2016.

@Beast , @GS Zhou , @AndrewJin , @cirr
 
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Chinese-made large passenger jet passes assessment for maiden flight
(Xinhua) 15:58, March 25, 2017

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SHANGHAI, March 25 (Xinhua) -- China's first large domestically designed and built passenger jetliner has passed a major technical assessment, bringing it a closer to its maiden flight, sources with the developer said Saturday.

An evaluation committee consisting 63 aviation specialists from across China has agreed the C919 is technically ready for its maiden flight, said the Shanghai-based aircraft maker, Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China (COMAC) in a press release.

The experts have worked in seven teams to assess the jet's design, structure and performances, which they have tested in labs, on board and during low-speed taxiing, it said.

The committee has proven the C919 is technically airworthy but the jet is still subject to electromagnetic compatibility and taxiing tests before it takes to the air.

The jet was built in 2015 and COMAC completed the onboard systems installation as well as major static and system integration tests before the technical assessment.

The C919, with over 150 seats and a standard range of 4,075 kilometers, is expected to compete with the updated Airbus 320 and Boeing's new-generation 737, which currently dominate the market.

By the end of 2016, 21 customers had placed orders for more than 500 C919 aircraft, and COMAC expects to sell at least 2,000.

China's first regional commercial aircraft, the ARJ21, began commercial operation in June 2016.
 
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So the maiden test flight is likely be postponed to days after April, 2017

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China’s first homegrown passenger jet takes low-speed taxi test
People's Daily, China
Published on Apr 12, 2017

China’s first large domestically designed and build passenger aircraft C919 (B-001A) took another low-speed taxiing test in Shanghai Pudong International Airport on April 12, 2017. It’s believed the aircraft is gradually moving closer to its maiden flight, yet the exact date is still to be determined.
 
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China’s self-developed C919 aircraft given first high-speed taxi test
By Wang Xuejing
2017-04-16 17:44 GMT+8

China-developed commercial airliner C919 has edged a step closer to takeoff after the plane’s developers put it through a high-speed taxi test on Sunday morning at Shanghai Pudong International Airport.

The test started at 8:00 a.m. and lasted for three hours. The plane reached a top speed of approximately 248 kilometers per hour, approaching the speed required for takeoff and landing.

C919’s developer, the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC), is expected to launch a test flight of the aircraft in the first half of this year.

The C919, designed to accommodate over 150 passengers, is a narrow-body plane. Its main rivals on the market will include Airbus 320 and Boeing 737. The COMAC also plans to start developing wide-body aircraft in 2017.
 
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China's self-developed C919 aircraft given 1st high-speed taxi test
China Daily, April 17, 2017

China-developed commercial airliner C919 has edged a step closer to takeoff after the plane's developers put it through a high-speed taxi test on Sunday morning at Shanghai Pudong International Airport.

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China-developed commercial airliner C919 is given the first high-speed taxi test at Shanghai Pudong International Airport in Shanghai, April 16, 2017. [Photo/cgtn.com]


The test started at 8:00 am and lasted for three hours. The plane reached a top speed of approximately 248 kilometers per hour, approaching the speed required for takeoff and landing.

C919's developer, the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC), is expected to launch a test flight of the aircraft in the first half of this year.

The C919, designed to accommodate over 150 passengers, is a narrow-body plane. Its main rivals on the market will include Airbus 320 and Boeing 737. The COMAC also plans to start developing wide-body aircraft in 2017.

http://www.china.org.cn/business/2017-04/17/content_40633449.htm
 
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China-developed commercial airliner C919 has edged a step closer to takeoff after the plane's developers put it through a high-speed taxi test on Sunday morning at Shanghai Pudong International Airport.

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China-developed commercial airliner C919 is given the first high-speed taxi test at Shanghai Pudong International Airport in Shanghai, April 16, 2017. [Photo/cgtn.com]



The test started at 8:00 am and lasted for three hours. The plane reached a top speed of approximately 248 kilometers per hour, approaching the speed required for takeoff and landing.

C919's developer, the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (COMAC), is expected to launch a test flight of the aircraft in the first half of this year.

The C919, designed to accommodate over 150 passengers, is a narrow-body plane. Its main rivals on the market will include Airbus 320 and Boeing 737. The COMAC also plans to start developing wide-body aircraft in 2017.

http://www.china.org.cn/business/2017-04/17/content_40633449.htm

Congrats to our Chinese friends
 
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China-made C919 passenger jet to take off soon
(Xinhua) 09:33, April 19, 2017


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Photo taken on April 11, 2017 shows a C919, the first large passenger aircraft designed and built by China, in a hangar in Shanghai, east China. The C919 passed the last expert assessment on Tuesday, its manufacturer announced. (Xinhua/Ding Ting)


SHANGHAI, April 18 -- The C919, the first large passenger aircraft designed and built by China passed the last expert assessment on Tuesday, its manufacturer announced.

The aircraft was given the go-ahead to begin a series of high-speed taxiing tests, the last step before its maiden flight. The process usually takes one to two months.

According to Shanghai-based Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China (COMAC), 25 experts from Chinese research institutes, civil aviation administration, and domestic jet makers formed Tuesday's assessment panel. They reviewed the preparedness of both the aircraft and ground services for the maiden flight.

In March, the aircraft passed a major technical assessment.

The C919, with over 150 seats and a standard range of 4,075 kilometers, is a medium-haul commercial aircraft.

The Chinese jetliner was rolled off assembly line in 2015. COMAC said 21 customers had placed orders for more than 500 aircraft by the end of 2016, and it expects sales to exceed 2,000.

China has invested heavily in commercial passenger jet manufacturing. The ARJ21, its first regional aircraft, began commercial operations in June 2016.
 
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Domestic airliner in final tests
By ZHU WENQIAN/WANG YU | China Daily | Updated: 2017-04-24

Nation's first passenger jet includes innovations beyond Boeing, Airbus



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The C919, China's first domestically produced passenger jet, undergoes its fourth high-speed taxiing test in Shanghai on Sunday. YIN LIQIN/CHINA DAILY


The C919, the much-anticipated first commercial aircraft for passengers to be made in China, has taken another step closer to its maiden flight by completing its fourth high-speed taxiing test on Sunday in Shanghai.

It was the C919's first test with the front landing gear of the plane slightly lifted to simulate takeoff.

The single-aisle, 168-seat, twin-engine jet is now just one step away from its first flight, according to Shanghai-based Commercial Aircraft Corp of China, the State-owned manufacturer.

Also on Saturday, the C919 received a flight permit from the Civil Aviation Administration of China. It has acquired all the necessary certificates to prepare for its first flight.

Wang Yanan, editor-in-chief of Aerospace Knowledge magazine, said high-speed taxiing tests are usually conducted at speeds of 230 to 260 kilometers per hour. Judging from current progress, the C919 may need only a few more ground tests, if any, he said.

"Usually, every high-speed test on the ground will be conducted at a faster speed than the previous one, becoming increasingly similar to the real conditions of takeoff. It could be approved quickly if everything went right and no big technical faults occurred," Wang said.

Fu Qianshao, a researcher at an aviation magazine affiliated with the People's Liberation Army Air Force, said the airliner boasts a series of design and technology innovations based on in-depth research into its international counterparts-specifically Boeing's B737 and the Airbus A320.

For instance, the C919's front windshield consists of only four pieces, a design that is said to be more fuel efficient and stronger than designs with more panels.

"Do not underestimate the importance of windshield design," Fu said. "Compared with the Boeing 737's traditional six panels of windshield glass, it is a huge improvement when it comes to the strength of its body structure, air resistance and fuel efficiency."

Also, to accommodate more powerful turbofan engines, the C919's designers needed to strengthen the landing gear of the aircraft and make them taller.

The domestically manufactured plane, which uses a great deal of composite materials, is expected to be relatively light and fuel-efficient compared with its competitors, including the updated A320 and the new-generation B737, which currently dominate the market.

So far, COMAC had received 570 orders for the C919 from 23 clients, including domestic airlines such as Air China, China Southern, China Eastern, Hainan Airlines and Sichuan Airlines.

Overseas orders account for about 10 percent of the total, including airlines from Germany and Thailand, and others from the Asia Pacific region and Africa.
 
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China's passenger aircraft C919 passes fourth high-speed taxiing test
(Xinhua) 08:48, April 24, 2017


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The C919, the first large passenger aircraft designed and built by China, is seen during a high-speed taxiing test in Shanghai, east China, April 23, 2017. The C919 passed a fourth high-speed taxiing test in Shanghai on Sunday. (Xinhua/Wang Jiliang)


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It has already done multiple taxiing tests.
The maiden flight should be soon.

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