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The MA700 regional airliner prototype is out at XAC and it has its engines installed.

(Image via do3jack/SDF)

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Rumors the first flight of MA700 has long conducted. Shall be in extensive testing phase now. AVIC shall be more transparent about such civilian project.

How can it be successful when so little info is available or even build up foreign buyer interest?
 
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Via @航空工业 from Weibo
 
I must admit, I'm surprised since there have been no recent news about the MA700 and the last news was a report concerning issues due to the lack of engines!

But this is the MA700 prototype flying!

So this was indeed correct? https://theaircurrent.com/aircraft-development/ma700-turboprop-secret-first-flight/

(Image via @Oneninety from Weibo)

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The nose head looks like a mini C919. There is no doubt MA700 already initial first flight but the most interesting question is what engine? Given the highly secretive going on. Surely, it is a military grade engine.
 
Surprisingly only little is published about this type ... how will it look in the end?
I don't think Yankees love to see AC352 project, China doesn't want to create unnecessary pressure on our European partners, especially France.

And btw, engine of AC353 is 涡轴16(WZ16), different from Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6C-67E of Airbus Helicopters H175.
 
I don't think Yankees love to see AC352 project, China doesn't want to create unnecessary pressure on our European partners, especially France.

And btw, engine of AC353 is 涡轴16(WZ16), different from Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6C-67E of Airbus Helicopters H175.


But do we have any images on how this helicopter will look like?
 
tcab tech e20 evtol

TCab Tech successfully completed transition flights with the E20 50% subscale demonstrator

newatlas.com
Pantuo Aviation unveils China's answer to the Lilium Jet
By Loz Blain
4-5 minutes
New render images and details have emerged on our favorite Chinese "I can't believe it's not Lilium" eVTOL air taxi project. The Pantuo Pantala Concept H, out of Shanghai, might look like the Lilium, but it promises to hit faster cruise speeds.

The manta ray shape, the large rear wing with upswept tips, the front canards, the great banks of small electric jets arranged along the wings ... So much of Pantuo's concept is, shall we say, the highest form of flattery, that it might be hard to tell it apart from the beautiful Lilium Jet from Germany.

But there are key differences here. Where Lilium tilts only its propulsion pods, the Pantala is designed to tilt its whole wings. Where Lilium is running 36 tiny electric jets and pushing a small fan philosophy, Pantuo is hedging its bets with just 22 fans, each with a much larger diameter.

The benefit of larger fans, Lilium tells us, is more energy-efficient hover. The drawbacks are tougher scaling, more noise, and less efficient cruise thanks to a bit of extra drag in horizontal flight. So if this thing gets built, perhaps we'll get a chance to verify those claims.

Performance figures won't be immediately comparable, since Pantuo is running a standard five-seat cabin while Lilium has expanded its launch aircraft to a seven-seater. But Lilium promises a 250-plus km (155-plus mile) range at 280 km/h (175 mph), and Pantuo says the Pantala Concept H will match that range, but go faster than 300 km/h (186 mph).

That's about all the detail we've got at this stage. It should be stressed that Lilium is one of the eVTOL world's most advanced projects, with several hundred million dollars in the bank, several hundred employees, and multiple flight tests of multiple prototypes under its belt, to name a few of its achievements. Pantuo has some ripping renders here, but if they've so much as built a remote control prototype, they're not telling anyone at this point.

On the other hand, where EASA and the FAA are pushing an extremely cautious approach to flight testing, the Chinese authorities seem to be letting eHang off the leash early to take the public around in manned flights all over the country.

So perhaps the runway for Pantuo will be somewhat clearer than what Lilium is facing with the European authorities – not that runways will be matters of great concern to the eVTOL sector, although both of these aircraft seem capable of using them where they're available for efficient conventional takeoff and landing.




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