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China censors U.S. posts on Internet freedom
5:57am EST
By Michael Martina
BEIJING (Reuters) - China's Internet censors have deleted U.S. Embassy posts promoting Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's speech on Internet freedom from microblogs, parrying U.S. efforts to spur debate about Beijing's grip on free speech.
Clinton said on Tuesday that China faces a "dictator's dilemma" on Internet censorship, and that the government risks being outrun by online opinion.
The online scrap over Clinton's comments underscores how Beijing is learning to cope with a booming microblog industry that is sparking social activism.
It also highlights how governments are embracing Twitter-like sites that allow users to fire off 140-character messages to engage with citizens on an ideological front beyond their borders.
Twitter itself is blocked in China, along with Facebook and other websites that are popular abroad.
The Embassy posts, issued by U.S. Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman and removed on Wednesday, asked Chinese users to opine on Clinton's speech, including on whether freedom of speech should apply in cyberspace, the Wall Street Journal reported.
It is unclear whether their removal was ordered by the government or censored by the companies that host the Embassy's microblogs, Sina.com and Tencent Holdings.
Those companies cooperate with the government under Chinese law to scrub content that is deemed illegal.
"The Ambassador recently responded to a query to the Wall Street Journal saying that we are disappointed that some Chinese Internet sites have decided to remove discussion of Secretary Clinton's Internet freedom speech from their websites," the U.S. Embassy said in an emailed statement.
"It's ironic that the Chinese are blocking an online discussion about Internet freedom."
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On Thursday, it appeared the U.S. Embassy was having difficulty updating its Sina Weibo (microblog) page with information unrelated to Clinton's speech.
The Twitter feed of U.S. Embassy spokesman Richard Buangan linked to a screenshot of the Embassy's Sina microblog which showed an error message after Buangan said he tried to post an explanation for an English-language idiom.
"Tried to update our Sina weibo account today (to explain the English idiom 'old hand') and this is the message we (got)," he wrote, linking to a picture of the message.
In response, China's Foreign Ministry said that freedom of speech on the Internet in China was guaranteed by law, but that it was firmly against other countries meddling.
"We oppose any country using the Internet as a pretext to interfere in China's internal affairs," spokesman Ma Zhaoxu told reporters at a regular news briefing.
He Weifang, a professor of law at Peking University in Beijing and an outspoken advocate of political liberalization, said China was facing a dilemma over control of the Internet.
"The government is expending a huge amount of resources and attention to control the Internet, but even so that's proving difficult," he said.
He noted that people use altered words and indirect phrasing to get around keyword blocks.
A scathing editorial in Thursday's Global Times, a popular Chinese tabloid run by the Communist Party's official newspaper, said the U.S. pressure over the Internet was "grandstanding."
The Global Times added that China's growing number of Internet users would soon challenge the U.S. in defining language and content on the Web.
"... The U.S. cannot play tricks on the Internet and expect to turn China into another Middle East," it wrote, where Internet-fomented uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia helped topple those countries' rulers.
Chinese Internet sites have restricted public comment on the unrest in Egypt, apparently reflecting official worry that criticism of former President Hosni Mubarak's regime could also turn on Beijing.
Spokesman Ma repeated that China hoped stability would return to the Middle East as soon as possible.

China censors U.S. posts on Internet freedom | Reuters

A genuine question to Chinese guys here, what is the Chinese regime scared of? Why these sorta censorship?
 
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makes you wonder ... The Chinese love to brag about that high IQ while their govt treats them as a child, too naive to handle news. Oh well, I guess their govt. knows the fragility of its people's IQ and ability to process news.
 
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makes you wonder ... The Chinese love to brag about that high IQ while their govt treats them as a child, too naive to handle news. Oh well, I guess their govt. knows the fragility of its people's IQ and ability to process news.

we got a T***l here
 
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I know nothing about censorship.If this thing exist,as this report had said it is a waste of money.In my opinion,the power of internet or the opinion of internet users should be neglected as it self is virtual and could not be bond together to get some solid effect.
What I care about is not the freedom of speech but browsing the internet without any man-made trouble.I wish our government care about this kind of request.
 
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Shutting idiots up is not the same as censoring :)

Censorship is suppression of speech or other communication which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or inconvenient to the general body of people as determined by a government, media outlet, or other controlling body.
(wiki)

Keywords being objectionable and inconvenient and far as a totalitarian regime like the one in china is concerned.
 
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Censorship is suppression of speech or other communication which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or inconvenient to the general body of people as determined by a government, media outlet, or other controlling body.
(wiki)

Keywords being objectionable and inconvenient and far as a totalitarian regime like the one in china is concerned.

objectionable and inconvenientThat is really the feeling I got in using internet in China,what a disheartened
thing.
 
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More western propaganda. First, they state that global times is a TABLOID. As we all know from college english, TABLOID implies untruth. However, Global Times has never written a single article that has been proven to be false.

BTW 2 minute search on Baidu:

??????????? ??????_????_???

????_·-

And they say we don't report it?
 
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What baffles me is that Chinese government is doing extremely well and China has made it to the top league. Even then they are paranoid about petty things like what Hillary Clinton has to say.

p.s :Keep the trolling to a minimum guys, if you don't want to answer, don't reply to this thread at all.
 
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Do you know why they blocked youtube? Not because of anything else, but because of racism, displayed by westerners and especially Taiwan Independence advocates against Chinese. To prevent public opinion from constraining the government (will you support a government that made concessions to Taiwan after you read how they call you Chink pig?) they decided to censor it. They didn't care about anything else.

Western media has a trick that I've noticed. They accuse Chinese people of being ultra nationalistic and claim that the far left has taken over Chinese politics. Simultaneously they claim we're a dictatorship. So basically, what they're saying is: we're a dictatorship, but somehow, "left" or "right" can "take over" the government. By claiming this, they are saying: 1.) Chinese people are too nationalistic and therefore must REDUCE nationalism and 2.) Chinese government is DICTATORSHIP. But wait, think critically! Are Chinese people really that nationalistic? What if we're not, what if the western media is just BSing and using it as a tool to constrain public opinion?

The correct answer, of course, is that the western media does this all the time. They use a fake argument, careful choice of words, twisting of facts, changing definitions, and deliberately ambiguous sentence structures to trick people. You can get around the censors with a proxy, I'm using a proxy right now actually. But no one who uses a proxy and sees Westerners comments believe "they've seen the light". They've seen the racism.
 
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makes you wonder ... The Chinese love to brag about that high IQ while their govt treats them as a child, too naive to handle news. Oh well, I guess their govt. knows the fragility of its people's IQ and ability to process news.

get your fact right before shooting trash since when did chinese government brag about IQ,
 
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What baffles me is that Chinese government is doing extremely well and China has made it to the top league. Even then they are paranoid about petty things like what Hillary Clinton has to say.

p.s :Keep the trolling to a minimum guys, if you don't want to answer, don't reply to this thread at all.

Ultimately not everyone is China has benefited from the economic boom (i.e blue collared workers etc) to an extent where they are fully satisfied. Keeping out news which stir unnecessary sentiment will least control how the population might perceive things.

You can throw a smoldering ciggyin a stack of newspapers, sometimes it might fizzle or it could burst into flames but why take a chance.
 
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More western propaganda. First, they state that global times is a TABLOID. As we all know from college english, TABLOID implies untruth. However, Global Times has never written a single article that has been proven to be false.

BTW 2 minute search on Baidu:

??????????? ??????_????_???

????_·-

And they say we don't report it?

Technically Global Times is a tabloid, so are most of China's popular newspapers because of their smaller pages.
 
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