China calls on Turkey to halt military incursion in Syria and ‘return to right track’

[shahbaz baig]

A good joke...

I have to admit the Chinese make quite standard jokes....

In the end it'll just be a statement. China won't follow through with anything concrete like sanctions.

countries only work for their own interest.
I am shocked and want to know what is the interest to support terrorist organizations against Turkey?

On the other hands Kurd terrorists want separate country "Kurdistan" which consists on Iran, turkey, Iraq & Syria.

China, Russia Iran & Iraq are becoming biggest fools. There will no OBOR if US backed Kurds will be succeeded, there will be more 100 years of USA's hegemony.

To make safe zone by turkey is only harmful for USA's long term strategy. But why other countries are opposing this temporary idea of safe zone is beyond my comprehension.

@beijingwalker

Does Iran & Iraq agree to surrender their land to Kurds for Kurdistan ? Because this is why Kurds are fighting.

 

[casual]

countries only work for their own interest.
I am shocked and want to know what is the interest to support terrorist organizations against Turkey?

On the other hands Kurd terrorists want separate country "Kurdistan" which consists on Iran, turkey, Iraq & Syria.

China, Russia Iran & Iraq are becoming biggest fools. There will no OBOR if US backed Kurds will be succeeded, there will be more 100 years of USA's hegemony.

To make safe zone by turkey is only harmful for USA's long term strategy. But why other countries are opposing this temporary idea of safe zone is beyond my comprehension.

@beijingwalker

Does Iran & Iraq agree to surrender their land to Kurds for Kurdistan ? Because this is why Kurds are fighting.

US and China is more worried about ISIS which made videos threatening both countries and is trying to spread their extremist ideology around the world. The Kurds was the main force that fought ISIS and they don't behead anyone.

 

[shahbaz baig]

US and China is more worried about ISIS which made videos threatening both countries and is trying to spread their extremist ideology around the world. The Kurds was the main force that fought ISIS and they don't behead anyone.

ISIS was created by US it self. There were European fighters in ISIS & both turkey & Kurds were fighting against ISIS. But now the whole scenario is changed because there is strategic plans of US in that region. Turkey importance for OBOR (Chinese dream) to connect with west.
Kurds are gonna be USA's puppets. You will see in future what I am talking about.

 

[American Pakistani]

I don't know which Pakistani idiot ( be it military or civilian ) agreed to this. If we hadn't been on FATF , we would have had a lot of options to use in Kashmir. Don't you see how the world ( US and India ) are using FATF as a weapon against us ? Did Pakistanis who agreed to this behind the curtains , knew of the possible scenarios in which this ( FATF) would be used against us...?

This was a dumb policy . An absolutely dumb one. KSA should have been punished thoroughly for doing this. Heck , I would have covertly supported Iran in Yemen after they did this to us. Ummah Chummah can go down the drain when we have such muslims that share the religion. Pakistan First.

Remember , it was only Turkey that was with us till the very end. Not KSA or China.

Let me break it down for you,

You need 3 votes minimum to avoid FATF greylist.
You got vote of Turkeye,
KSA voted in favor of Pakistan in the first round, on second round, KSA was under pressure from west and india, hence decided to vote against Pakistan,
China voted for Pakistan initially, but on second round voted against, why because although KSA decided to vote against Pakistan, someone leaked this info, 2 votes were of no use no matter what. China also needed (I believe) president status in fatf for next term but it needed votes for that and many members told China, if it voted against Pakistan then only they will vote in favor of China. So behind the curtains Pakistan agreed upon the against vote from China. It was unfortunate that Pakistan had idiotic govt at that time who failed to secure 3 votes.

Again on this statement, I completely disagree with China. China should've acted neutral.

 

[pakpride00090]

Let me break it down for you,

You need 3 votes minimum to avoid FATF greylist.
You got vote of Turkeye,
KSA voted in favor of Pakistan in the first round, on second round, KSA was under pressure from west and india, hence decided to vote against Pakistan,
China voted for Pakistan initially, but on second round voted against, why because although KSA decided to vote against Pakistan, someone leaked this info, 2 votes were of no use no matter what. China also needed (I believe) president status in fatf for next term but it needed votes for that and many members told China, if it voted against Pakistan then only they will vote in favor of China. So behind the curtains Pakistan agreed upon the against vote from China. It was unfortunate that Pakistan had idiotic govt at that time who failed to secure 3 votes.

Again on this statement, I completely disagree with China. China should've acted neutral.

So according to you KSA bailed on us first. KSA bailed on us on FATF and and then on Kashmir. But still our government , civil-military keep kissing their feet.... unbelievable.

China should have stayed neutral. I agree with you on this. It is quite shameful that our bureaucrats and foreign diplomats weren't able to at least secure 3 votes. The problem with grey list is that , once you are in. It is difficult to get out. That window b/w being in and getting out is going to be exploited by our enemies. India did a wonderful job on exploiting that.
Ajit doval actually mentioned this in his speech few days back..... **** KSA and arabs... Hope Iran burns them all.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

China should stay out of this..Syria doesnt border China

Remember how China ditched us in 2018 which led to us in grey list of FATF. KSA and China bailed on us , while Turkey was the only one supporting us.

Unlike some pakistanis, I am not a default supporter of China.

dont be an @ss china abstained from the vote till the end...We are in greylist because of our own shortcomings.Fix your financial institutes instead finding scapegoats.

 

[pakpride00090]

China should stay out of this..Syria doesnt border China



dont be an @ss china abstained from the vote till the end...We are in greylist because of our own shortcomings.Fix your financial institutes instead finding scapegoats.

BS ... We could have solved these issues without being in the list. Keep kissing the dirty asses of arabs and chinese who didn't support you.
Ummah chummah and pak-cheen dosti is serving Pakistan very well.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

BS ... We could have solved these issues without being in the list. Keep kissing the dirty asses of arabs and chinese who didn't support you.
Ummah chummah and pak-cheen dosti is serving Pakistan very well.

lol where did ummah and pak-cheen dosti come in from..cheen cant spoonfeed you everything..are you a kid..go play kid.. you dont even know what FATF is..who get referred to FATF..We were in the list back in 2010 as well..

I wonder , why didn't our government and military object to China in 2018 when they didn't vote in our favor ?
Why do we have a FTA with China when we can hardly sell them goods ? Have you seen the trade deficit that exits b/w China and Pakistan ?

Clearly , something is wrong. Either our ministers are stupid or they don't have the balls to talk to China on its injustice to Pakistan.

We should learn from Turkey instead. A non-nuclear country that is brave enough to do what is necessary for its own interest and people.

What do we export?FTA is usless if we cant keep up with the exports..our textile industry(biggest export chunk) was crippled till recently ..thanks to new power projects(includes cpec ones) and tax relief its coming back on track.
Its in our national interest to stay in the Chinese circle ..you can go hug a cactus..

 

[pakpride00090]

lol where did ummah and pak-cheen dosti come in from..cheen cant spoonfeed you everything..are you a kid..go play kid.. you dont even know what FATF is..who get referred to FATF..We were in the list back in 2010 as well..


What do we export?FTA is usless if we cant keep up with the exports..our textile industry(biggest export chunk) was crippled till recently ..thanks to new power projects(includes cpec ones) and tax relief its coming back on track.
Its in our national interest to stay in the Chinese circle ..you can go hug a cactus..

If we can't export then what was the point of FTA then to just benefit China ? Just look at the trade deficit b/w China and Pakistan. We sell 2b of goods while 16b from China. I fail to see the point of having a FTA with China.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

If we can't export then what was the point of FTA then to just benefit China ? Just look at the trade deficit b/w China and Pakistan. We sell 2b of goods while 16b from China. I fail to see the point of having a FTA with China.

That should be asked from the gugu sharif govt. Thats why the Khans govt. has renegotiated the FTA.And suddenly the whole media started speculations that we are turning Chinese away...
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1487006/business-economy

 

[pakpride00090]

That should be asked from the gugu sharif govt. Thats why the Khans govt. has renegotiated the FTA.And suddenly the whole media started speculations that we are turning Chinese away...
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1487006/business-economy

Seriously.. What kind of dumb fools have we elected....

From the article :-

“China was initially reluctant to sign a new FTA with Pakistan, but Prime Minister Imran Khan’s successful diplomacy during his last visit to Beijing helped materialize it,” the prime minister’s special assistant said while briefing media after the cabinet’s meeting.

At least khan is doing his best. I have never bought this pak-cheen dosti slogan. Our people are good in doing appeasement. China wrecked our industries and looted us at the same time while our leaders sang pak-cheen dosti zindabad....

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

China wrecked our industries and looted us at the same time while our leaders sang pak-cheen dosti zindabad....

your language is the problem..Chinese dont ask you to give them away your money. BTW there are a number of Turkish deals where we stand with an egg on our face.Do due diligence before singing deals....a businessman regardless of nationality will not let go of free money.. China didnt wreck our industry we wrecked it ourselves..dont find scapegoats.When you lash out publicly naming states as unfriendly for these reasons its us who become a laughing stock..

 

[pakpride00090]

your language is the problem..Chinese dont ask you to give them away your money. BTW there are a number of Turkish deals where we stand with an egg on our face.Do due diligence before singing deals....a businessman regardless of nationality will not let go of free money.. China didnt wreck our industry we wrecked it ourselves..dont find scapegoats.When you lash out publicly naming states as unfriendly for these reasons its us who become a laughing stock..

Either you are blind or trying to act blind.

Read what I said in the first sentence. I am going to put it here and bold it so you won't miss it.

Seriously ... what kind of dumb fools have we elected...

 

[Kaniska]

BS ... We could have solved these issues without being in the list. Keep kissing the dirty asses of arabs and chinese who didn't support you.
Ummah chummah and pak-cheen dosti is serving Pakistan very well.

you are giving too much credit to India for FATF issue of Pakistan...India is not powerful enough to either put you on any list nor can do anything to keep you out of the grey list..
India is basically like “Begani Sadi main Abdulla Deewana”...

 

[pakpride00090]

you are giving too much credit to India for FATF issue of Pakistan...India is not powerful enough to either put you on any list nor can do anything to keep you out of the grey list..
India is basically like “Begani Sadi main Abdulla Deewana”...

Did I mention India anywhere ? Obsessed much street shitter.