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China buys up half the world’s luxury goods

Cheaper in U.S ... not cheap in China
1. a normal-config MacBook pro is about 7,000 RMB,
2. a Ipad Air is 2,800 RMB Ipad Air2 is 3,200 RMB,
3. a Iphone6 16G is 5,000 RMB, Iphone6 Plus is 5,800 RMB.

Those prise for a normal Chinese family, equal to a month salary ... if save money they still can afford them. For those prise 12,000~15,000 RMB like DELL's Alienware, it is a Luxury in China.


But those outdated Apple goods, like Iphone4S, Iphone5 only sell 1,000~2,500RMB in China market ... and i know where to buy 2,000~3,000RMB 2010 or 2011 version MacBook Pro/Air ... LOL !!! For those old Apple goods, everyone in China can afford them. :D


Are you talking about authentic Apple products or knock-offs? :lol:
 
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Are you talking about authentic Apple products or knock-offs? :lol:
Real Apple products, the latest Apple price higher and outdated Apple price cheap in China ... don't forget Apple is 'Made in China' & 'Designed in California'.:lol:

Now 7,000 RMB ~ 15,000 RMB incomes/month for a normal Chinese family, they can afford all Apple products, no doubt ! Future will be more cheaper in China ... Just let me show a truth here !!! :enjoy:

1. 2014 new version MacBook price: (Air)5,000 RMB or (Pro)7,000+ RMB
(USD 800+ for Air, USD 1,000~1,200 for Pro)

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2. 2010~2012 old version MacBook price: (Air & Pro) 2,000+ RMB (USD 300~400)
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3. 2014 new version Iphone6 Plus: 5,500+ RMB (USD 900+ )
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4. 2013 old version Iphone5S : 2,500 RMB (USD 400+)
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5. 2012 old version Iphone4S : 2,000 RMB (USD 300+)
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My point is ... why Apple is so popular in China ? Coz cheap price ... althought China is still the biggest developing nation in the world, but every Chinese can own Apple products coz sell a reasonable price in local market (maybe hacked illegitimate iphones from HongKong/Korea/North America version), and right now Chinese wallets can afford the price.

For example Iphone5S 16G price:1,799 RMB ~ 64G price: 2,199 RMB ... When every Chinese can easily own Apple products with a cheap price, then Apple not belong to a Luxury in China ! It's just a normal cellphone.
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Im sure soon Iphone6 Plus price also will cost down in China, LOL ... !!!


6. 2014/2013/2012 version Ipad Mini3/Mini2/Mini: 2,500+ RMB / 2,000+ RMB / 1,500 RMB
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7. 2014/2013 version Ipad Air2/Air: 2,700+ RMB / 2,000+ RMB
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Today China each normal family can afford any Apple product here, future will sell more cheaper.:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:
 
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I using Apple example in China is to prove Chinese family's real purchasing power. :coffee:

China is a biggest developing nation, but not as poor as many ppl thought before ... normal Chinese families r becoming rich, Chinese r getting benefits from the China economy achievement. :cheers: :enjoy:
 
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Heartfelt thanks to all global buyers that helped China to sit on top of a 4 trillion USD reserve.

Thanks to overseas investors who just invested some 100+ billion last year, which almost equals to Vietnam's banana GDP.

By the way Viets must worry about Vietnam although I appreciate their concern for China.

I want to know my made-in-Vietnam (Taiwan company) socks contribute to Vietnam's economy or not.

Widening wealth gap threatens Vietnam’s political stability | Global Risk Insights

Besides, while luxury consumption is declining in China, in India it is just picking up, out-doing China (which is not a bad thing):

Forget China, this is the next big luxury market

"India is the fastest-growing emerging market for luxury goods, according to some experts, but whether it can surpass China as the world's top luxury consumer is open for debate.

The country's luxury market will grow 86 percent in constant value terms between 2013 and 2018, according to a report from Euromonitor International earlier this year. Luxury markets in China, Malaysia and Indonesia are expected to grow 74, 62 and 59 percent, respectively, over the period."
 
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How to levy a fair tax on luxuries?
By Pan Helin
China.org.cn, February 22, 2015

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The huge imbalance in luxury consumption between overseas and domestic purchase in 2014 should inspire China to lower its tax on luxury goods to a reasonable level.


According to the China Luxury Report 2014 published recently by the Fortune Character Institute, China's consumers bought 76 percent of their luxury purchases overseas and this outflow of luxury consumption is becoming very serious. One reason is surely that, in the domestic market, the number of counterfeit goods is six times higher than authentic ones.

This raises an important question: How should we levy tax on luxuries?

As reform of the consumption tax keeps progressing, there are differing opinions on the desirability of imposing a higher or lower tax on luxuries. Those supporting a tax increase think it only right for the rich to pay more for their consumptions of luxury items to boost the nation's fiscal income, which can also be a subsidy for the less fortunate in society. This move will achieve more fairness in taxation. The opposing view is that restraining luxury consumption can hardly help to promote more reasonable consumption and narrowing the gap between the rich and poor.

I think the fact that 76 percent of total consumption involving overseas purchase, which means an outflow of US$81 billion is an important reminder: If you want to raise taxes merely to increase fiscal revenue this may eventually affect economic vitality; Thus, China needs to lower the luxury tax to a more reasonable level.

This is becoming a matter of some urgency. A high tax will limit the increase of domestic consumption. The outflow of consumption will cause other various additive bonuses to flow out, which will not be good for boosting economic development. Research has shown that the overseas prices of luxuries are far lower than those prevailing on the domestic market, naturally encouraging overseas consumption.

This year, there has been a widespread lowering of expectations for a GDP increase, due to adaptation to the national economy's "new normal;" however, weak consumption is a very important factor. Luxury consumption is part of China's domestic consumption; the huge outflow every year will be very bad for GDP growth. According to the tax efficiency principle, the government's tax levy, including the tax system, policies and management, all should follow the efficiency principle. This means the tax levy should be in favor of improving economic efficiency or, at least, have only a minimum bad influence.

The luxury tax has space for adjustment. Statistics show the prices of luxury goods on the Chinese mainland are far higher than overseas, as previously mentioned. The exorbitant tax levy is the major reason for the price differences. In China, luxuries are high-end imported goods, which should pay 6.5-18 percent import duty, 30 percent consumer tax, and 17 percent value-added tax. If we include shipping costs and insurance, a product that eventually costs 10,000 yuan will have attracted 8,800 yuan in various duties and taxes during the import procedure.

A reasonable tax rate may solve the huge price difference between domestic and overseas markets, which will prevent the outflow of funds to some extent. But it doesn't mean everything will be okay ever after. The government still needs to maintain luxury market order, and crack down on fake and counterfeit products.

Some countries also have tax free policies to encourage foreign consumers, and clearly the domestic luxury market cannot go that far. So, when the foreign luxuries go through customs, we should certainly levy some additional duties on them. The custom authorities should strengthen their enforcement; otherwise, for domestic clients, it is not fair.

The writer is a postdoctoral fellow at Research Institute for Fiscal Science, Ministry of Finance.
 
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1. Luxury consumption:
For the rich family in China, they can pay for Iphone6 Plus with 5,800 RMB + Ipad Air2 with 2,900 RMB + MacBook Pro(latest high-config) with 12,000 RMB == total 20,000 RMB (about 3,500 USD), that's Expensive price for many Chinese family.

2. Cheap consumption:
For most normal family in China, they can pay for Iphone5S with 2,500 RMB + Ipad Air with 2,100 RMB + old version MacBook Air/Pro with 2,500 RMB == total 7,000 RMB (about 1,200 USD), this's Cheap & Accepted price for most normal Chinese family.

@A1Kaid Here i showed Apple products selling in China and Chinese purchasing power, how u feel that ?
 
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Seriously most of normal Chinese family can reach $2,000, less can earn $3,000.

1. In China the personal income tax is begin over 3,500 RMB basic salary, for example 5,000 RMB/basic salary will deduct 200 RMB or 10,000 RMB/basic salary will deduct 900 RMB ... but most Chinese company they r smart to send less money in basic salary and most in bonus + subsidy + additional benefit which can reduce tax. As far as i experienced, at most deduct 500~800RMB from my month salary.
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2. China didn't have consumption tax yet.

3. The best & quick way to earn money is doing business in China ... try to earn only 1 RMB from 1.3billion Chinese wallets, u will be a 0.2 billion USD rich-man in China (6 RMB = 1 USD).
U know what i mean ! :coffee:
you are a lucky guy.

german income tax is high, progressive tax ranging from 19% to 45%, the more you earn the more you have to pay tax. the first 8,300 euro a year income is taxfree. other social contributions such as to healthcare, unemployment security and retirement saving eat another 30% from your income. so usually you get 50% or less as net income after paying tax and social contributions.

german sales tax is high: 19%, reduced tax 7% for unprocessed foods. so if you are a average earner, living in a rental house or flat, you are left little at the end of the month. the rich in germany are either high earner as engineers, managers and business owners, or they inherit the wealth from their parents.
 
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you are a lucky guy.

german income tax is high, progressive tax ranging from 19% to 45%, the more you earn the more you have to pay tax. the first 8,300 euro a year income is taxfree. other social contributions such as to healthcare, unemployment security and retirement saving eat another 30% from your income. so usually you get 50% or less as net income after paying tax and social contributions.

german sales tax is high: 19%, reduced tax 7% for unprocessed foods. so if you are a average earner, living in a rental house or flat, you are left little at the end of the month. the rich in germany are either high earner as engineers, managers and business owners, or they inherit the wealth from their parents.
Not lucky, just smart ... :-) I think Germany has high social welfare, but China not yet ... so inside tax still less (might increase in the future).
 
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Too much obsession about the luxury/materialism isn't good, we need to make more saving and think about the long term.

Also, we need to maintain our vigilance during the peace time and not to let our guard down, since the danger can often be near us during the 'peace time'.
Prepare for war during peace time.
 
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China edges out U.S. as BMW's biggest market on 2013 sales

(Reuters) - Sales by German luxury carmaker BMW (BMWG.DE) in China rose 20 percent last year to overtake the United States as the group's biggest market.

BMW sold a record 390,713 BMW and Mini cars in China last year, up 19.7 percent from a year earlier, the company said in a statement on Thursday, outpacing the overall market growth of 13.9 percent. Its 2013 U.S. sales were up 8.1 percent to 375,782.

More and more Chinese consumers are buying luxury cars from BMW, Audi and Mercedes-Benz as they get richer and seek more exclusivity, shrugging off the negative impacts from the anti-extravagance campaign initiated by President Xi Jinping last year.

China's premium car market will grow at an annual rate of 12 percent through 2020, and overtake the United States as the world's biggest market for luxury cars as early as 2016, according to consultancy McKinsey & Co.

"We achieved our 2013 targets, but it is even more satisfactory that the volume growth was backed by solid substance in every aspect of our work," Karsten Engel, CEO of BMW Group Region China said in the statement.

"This proves our China strategy worked well and it will be adhered to in this year continuously."

Engel told a news conference on Monday the group will introduce more than 10 new models in China, including its electric BMW i3, this year.

BMW will also expand its dealer network and ramp up local production of vehicles through its Chinese joint venture, according to transcripts of Engel's remarks on Monday.

BMW brand car sales grew 19 percent to 362,100 units in China last year and Mini cars increased 23 percent to 28,613 vehicles.
 
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Prepare for war during peace time.

The peace time will not automatically come out from the thin air.

And sometimes only the war can give us some temporary peace time. For example, 1950/1962/1979.
 
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