China building new islands in disputed waters

[Cossack25A1]

Illegal or not, here's the future map of China. They will reclaim the entire South China Sea....and make it into one huge landmass by the end of this century!

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And all the world would do is to sit and watch! Has anyone got the balls to do anything about it? Nope!

This reminds me of "Atlantropa" and particularly the story The Man in the High Castle where the victorious Nazis turned the the Mediterranean Sea into a large farmland.

And if that maps hypothetically becomes a reality.... Crap, we are freaking sharing a land border with China and their 96Gs and 99As going to storm and level every cities we have and kill everyone like what the Japanese did at Nanking!

Oh noes!

 

[YoucanYouup]

China make this comidia very noisy, in fact you dare not do anything to challange Japanese. They captured your people who treated in to Senkaku and take back to China like criminals.

I don't like to comment on Indo president here, but he dare not sink chinese boats, he is not so smart as you said.



China is brave big boy, you can bully small neighbors. China is big but like uneducated boy.

chinese ís cơwardice, China can bully Viets and Pynoys only, you dare not facing with US or Japan.

Indonesia president is cowardice too, if he dare not sink Chinese boat.

 

[GeHAC]

The last point of China is Hainan Island, here.

reclamation on reefs and rocks of Vietnam in Spratly is illegal action of China.

Territorial waters judged by remake of old directly-controled provincial map（直省地图）？I'm tired of explaining what these map means.

The Map of South and East Ocean Sea Routes was drawn in between 1712-1721 by Qing (Ching) Dynasty Fujian (Fuchien) Province Navy Commander Shi Shibiao

The map shows clearly Chinese sovereignty over the South China　Sea Islands including Nansha Islands, Xisha Islands, Zhongsha Islands and Dongsha Islands.Also note the "long bar area" shown in this map which locates close to the Vietnamese coast, which clearly tells that the so called "Truong Sa" and "Hoang Sa" as shown in the 1838 "Complete Map of Unified Great Nam" are not the Nansha (Spratlys) and Xisha (Paracels) Islands of China at all, but refers to the Pullo Canton near the central Vietnamese coast, which was also once been identified as "dangerous group" and named Paracels before Paracels was used to refer to China's Xisha Islands later in the history.

 

[Beast]

China make this comidia very noisy, in fact you dare not do anything to challange Japanese. They captured your people who treated in to Senkaku and take back to China like criminals.

I don't like to comment on Indo president here, but he dare not sink chinese boats, he is not so smart as you said.

distorting fact do not make you a superpower overnight. Why Japan coast guard did not ram CMA ship out of diayutai area? And our CMA ship goes to diayutai every weekly without disturb.

And fancy of u accusing Indonesia president of not being smart. Just admit you vietnamese is nobody under any countries eye becos you are poor and try act like thug when no substance.

 

[Rechoice]

Territorial waters judged by remake of old directly-controled provincial map（直省地图）？I'm tired of explaining what these map means.

The Map of South and East Ocean Sea Routes was drawn in between 1712-1721 by Qing (Ching) Dynasty Fujian (Fuchien) Province Navy Commander Shi Shibiao

The map shows clearly Chinese sovereignty over the South China　Sea Islands including Nansha Islands, Xisha Islands, Zhongsha Islands and Dongsha Islands.Also note the "long bar area" shown in this map which locates close to the Vietnamese coast, which clearly tells that the so called "Truong Sa" and "Hoang Sa" as shown in the 1838 "Complete Map of Unified Great Nam" are not the Nansha (Spratlys) and Xisha (Paracels) Islands of China at all, but refers to the Pullo Canton near the central Vietnamese coast, which was also once been identified as "dangerous group" and named Paracels before Paracels was used to refer to China's Xisha Islands later in the history.

This is Full Map of China 1926.

The Map of South and East Ocean Sea Routes was drawn in between 1712-1721 by Qing (Ching) Dynasty Fujian (Fuchien) Province Navy Commander Shi Shibiao

This is map for Sea routes.

base on your idea, all the rigion south east Asia is china's territory.

 

[GeHAC]

This is Full Map of China 1926.

1935 Map of China (published by Shenbao Publishing House), Map of Guangdong Province, Map of Nanhai Islands (South Sea Islands, then under the Administration of Guangdong Province Government together with Hainan Island in 1935).

民国22年（1933年）8月，成立琼崖抚黎专员公署，由绥靖委员兼抚黎专员。同年，法国殖民当局以武力侵占南沙群岛中的9个岛屿。中华民国政府通过外交途径向法国当局提出严正交涉，并由中华民国外交部、内政部、海军部等组成“水陆地图审查委员会”，于民国23年（1934年）至民国24年（1935年）专门审定了我国南海诸岛各个岛屿名称，编印了《中国南海各岛屿图》，明确绘制出东沙群岛、西沙群岛、中沙群岛和南沙群岛属中国版图的地图。
In ROC 22 year（1933） in August, establishment of the office of the Commissioner of QiongYa Fu Li.At the same time, The same year, the French colonial authorities occupied 9 islands in the Spratly Islands.The government of the Republic of China made solemn representations to the French authorities through diplomatic channels.By the Republic of China Ministry of foreign affairs, the Ministry of the interior and the Department of the Navy,"amphibious map Review Committee" was founded.From the ROC 23 year (1934)to the ROC 24 year ( 1935),the committee officially authorized the name of each island in SCS and made the"Chinese South China Sea island map’ with Chinese and English. only Such map with official document can be called 'convictive'

 

[Rechoice]

distorting fact do not make you a superpower overnight. Why Japan coast guard did not ram CMA ship out of diayutai area? And our CMA ship goes to diayutai every weekly without disturb.

And fancy of u accusing Indonesia president of not being smart. Just admit you vietnamese is nobody under any countries eye becos you are poor and try act like thug when no substance.

Your ships ran around like mad man, Japan ships don't permited your ships lunched in to Island.

1935 Map of China (published by Shenbao Publishing House), Map of Guangdong Province, Map of Nanhai Islands (South Sea Islands, then under the Administration of Guangdong Province Government together with Hainan Island in 1935).

民国22年（1933年）8月，成立琼崖抚黎专员公署，由绥靖委员兼抚黎专员。同年，法国殖民当局以武力侵占南沙群岛中的9个岛屿。中华民国政府通过外交途径向法国当局提出严正交涉，并由中华民国外交部、内政部、海军部等组成“水陆地图审查委员会”，于民国23年（1934年）至民国24年（1935年）专门审定了我国南海诸岛各个岛屿名称，编印了《中国南海各岛屿图》，明确绘制出东沙群岛、西沙群岛、中沙群岛和南沙群岛属中国版图的地图。
In ROC 22 year（1933） in August, establishment of the office of the Commissioner of QiongYa Fu Li.At the same time, The same year, the French colonial authorities occupied 9 islands in the Spratly Islands.The government of the Republic of China made solemn representations to the French authorities through diplomatic channels.By the Republic of China Ministry of foreign affairs, the Ministry of the interior and the Department of the Navy,"amphibious map Review Committee" was founded.From the ROC 23 year (1934)to the ROC 24 year ( 1935),the committee officially authorized the name of each island in SCS and made the"Chinese South China Sea island map’ with Chinese and English. only Such map with official document can be called 'convictive'

Vietnam map from 1838, Hoang sa and Truong sa is territory of Vietnam. China claimed our Island just recently.

 

[areal]

U-line was proposed in 1946-1947, it is not a secret.
Much much earlier than UNCLOS.

This is Full Map of China 1926.

This is map for Sea routes.

base on your idea, all the rigion south east Asia is china's territory.

please no more faked Vietnamese maps with poor geography proof. your viet trick is like this
1, find a map, with a name 'Hoang Sha' for coastal islands.
2, rename our Xisha as Hoang Sha in Vietnamese language.
3, tell this map as a proof to show Vietnam had Xisha.

Just tell the public why your PM Phan never found this map before he sent the diplomatic letter on drug.

Your ships ran around like mad man, Japan ships don't permited your ships lunched in to Island.



Vietnam map from 1838, Hoang sa and Truong sa is territory of Vietnam. China claimed our Island just recently.

 

[Rechoice]

U-line was proposed in 1946-1947, it is not a secret.
Much much earlier than UNCLOS.


please no more faked Vietnamese maps with poor geography proof. your viet trick is like this
1, find a map, with a name 'Hoang Sha' for coastal islands.
2, rename our Xisha as Hoang Sha in Vietnamese language.
3, tell this map as a proof to show Vietnam had Xisha.

Just tell the public why your PM Phan never found this map before he sent the diplomatic letter on drug.

China signed in to UNCLOS, so U shap claiming is meaningless. China stop lying about nature of PM Pham's letter, he mentioned about 12 nm related to North Vietnam Authority after 1954 only.

Hoang Sa is Han-Viet name of "Bai Cat vang" in Vietnamese, both name used by Vietnamese from 17 century.

 

[areal]

see how China addressed about this signature over UNCLOS, we have a long list of reservation clauses!
The clause declared that no international court, no things against U-Line.
U-line is a marine border between China and other countries. UNCLOS is only about EEZ things, it cannot change border. China has been polite enough to persuade your guys to stop invading China's border.

China signed in to UNCLOS, so U shap claiming is meaningless. China stop lying about nature of PM Pham's letter, he mentioned about 12 nm related to North Vietnam Authority after 1954 only.

Hoang Sa is Han-Viet name of "Bai Cat vang" in Vietnamese, both name used by Vietnamese from 17 century.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

China signed in to UNCLOS, so U shap claiming is meaningless. China stop lying about nature of PM Pham's letter, he mentioned about 12 nm related to North Vietnam Authority after 1954 only.

Hoang Sa is Han-Viet name of "Bai Cat vang" in Vietnamese, both name used by Vietnamese from 17 century.

UNCLOS is not active retroactively. And it is used for defining Exclusive Economic Zone. Not for territory. UNCLOS doesn't say that the owner of an island.

Atleast be consistent.

Also, in my humble opinion, the Paracel Island (or Xisha) definitely belong to China.

I am much more ambivalent about Spratly Islands.

 

[Rechoice]

see how China addressed about this signature over UNCLOS, we have a long list of reservation clauses!
The clause declared that no international court, no things against U-Line.
U-line is a marine border between China and other countries. UNCLOS is only about EEZ things, it cannot change border. China has been polite enough to persuade your guys to stop invading China's border.

don't try to twist the concept here. When Paracel and Spratly both archigeoplo Islands belong to Vietnam. Occuopation of China in 1956, 1974, 1988 Islands of Vietnam with force is illegal.

Why China does not join with Philippine to UNCLOS Arbitration, to solve the dispute ? bcz U shap claiming is fake. China is loser.

 

[areal]

Great, you are learning fast. Now you know UNCLOS is only about EEZ. so be polite and respectful before the border, U-line.

UNCLOS is not active retroactively. And it is used for defining Exclusive Economic Zone. Not for territory. UNCLOS doesn't say that the owner of an island.

Atleast be consistent.

Also, in my humble opinion, the Paracel Island (or Xisha) definitely belong to China.

I am much more ambivalent about Spratly Islands.

When China had U-line, your guys kept silent. Long time later, you swallow your own words letter by letter.

1956, 1974, China did the thing that was supported or received no con from this still alive Vietnam.
1988, sorry, it seems that it was accident about gun misfire. however, this time, it is not about China got things from Vietnam, but Vietnam stole things from China.

don't try to twist the concept here. When Paracel and Spratly both archigeoplo Islands belong to Vietnam. Occuopation of China in 1956, 1974, 1988 Islands of Vietnam with force is illegal.

Why China does not join with Philippine to UNCLOS Arbitration, to solve the dispute ? bcz U shap claiming is fake. China is loser.

 

[Rechoice]

Great, you are learning fast. Now you know UNCLOS is only about EEZ. so be polite and respectful before the border, U-line.



When China had U-line, your guys kept silent. Long time later, you swallow your own words letter by letter.

1956, 1974, China did the thing that was supported or received no con from this still alive Vietnam.
1988, sorry, it seems that it was accident about gun misfire. however, this time, it is not about China got things from Vietnam, but Vietnam stole things from China.

U shape is baseless. It is created by KMT (ROC) in Chongching 1948, in civil war in China, KMT is loser, who care ?

In San Francisco conference 1951, with presentation of PM Tran Van Huu of govt State of Vietnam, has been protested it. claim of China is rejected on general discussion. In any case U shap is neamningless.

Vietnam controlled Islands from long time ago in the past. Occoupation with force of China on Islands, killed Vietnamese in Hoang Sa 1974, in Gac Ma 1988 reefs and rocks of Vietnam is aggressive invasion, its illegal.

EZZ under UNCLOS is granted to rightnous owner Vietnam only, not Chinese Invader.

 

[gbwin]

We want friendship with India and China and work!
As I know, the Japanese are very bad, people have been posing as Chinese people on the Internet, posting an increase provoke hatred.
Maybe it was not specifically for us, mainly for China, so use to us, but they do, we can not tolerate.