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china needs 12 nuclear 100,000+ ton supercarriers.
only way to keep foreign aggressors such as US, UK, france, india and japan.
only way to keep foreign aggressors such as US, UK, france, india and japan.
China defends carrier plans, neighbors fret over buildup - Yahoo! News
China's humiliations at the hands of Western powers in the past centuries "left the Chinese people with the deep pain of having seas they could not defend, helplessly eating the bitter fruit of being beaten for being backward," said a front-page editorial in the paper.
That trend is changing as Beijing ramps up its military spending while Washington discusses cutting its much larger defense budget. Growing Chinese military reach is triggering regional jitters that have fed into longstanding territorial disputes, and could speed up military expansion across Asia.
In the past year, China has had run-ins at sea with Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines. The incidents -- boat crashes and charges of territorial incursions -- have been minor, but the diplomatic reaction often heated.
"The issue of transparency regarding China's defense policy and its military expansion itself are concerns not only for Japan but for the region and the international community," Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said on Thursday.
In the 2012 budget submitted to Congress this week, the Philippines wants to raise military spending to 8 billion pesos ($190 million) per year from a previous 5 billion.
"(China's military modernization) serves as a clarion call for the Philippines to also upgrade its military capability to patrol its waters," said Rommel Banlaoi, executive director at the Philippine Institute for Peace, Violence and Terrorism Research.
The Chinese carrier program could fuel the drive for submarines in Southeast Asia, said Rory Medcalf, program director of International Security at the Lowy Institute for International Policy in Sydney.
"There is already a submarine race, or submarine capability competition, in the region. This could add to that dynamic but I do not think it will be fundamental driver of it," he said.
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Japan's plan to boost the number of its submarines to 22 from 16, announced last year, was mainly a response to China's naval buildup, said Narushige Michishita, associate professor at Japan's National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies.
"Japan is already taking some countermeasures," he said.
As well as refitting the old Soviet-era carrier bought from Ukraine in 1998, China is building two indigenous aircraft carriers as part of a broad modernization program, sources told Reuters on Wednesday.
"Putting it in the overall context of China's expanding and modernizing military, there is some cause for concern," said Daniel Pinkston of the International Crisis Group in Seoul.
South Korea disputes territory with China, which is the major backer of the principal threat to security on the Korean peninsula, the North.
Taiwan, the self-ruled island China claims as its own and has never renounced the use of force to recover, will also be watching closely. It warned again last week about Beijing's growing military threat.
"In the previous 60 years, the threat to Taiwan was all from the west," said Alexander Huang, professor of strategic studies at Taipei's Tamkang University. "But with a moving platform, China can pose a threat to Taiwan from the eastern side, which means that Taiwan is threatened from all directions."
Others point to India, China's great rival as an emerging Asian economic and military powerhouse.
"If the Chinese leave the west Pacific, there's only one areas they're interested in, the Indian Ocean. In that sense, competition with (India) is inevitable," said Raja Menon, a former rear admiral in the Indian navy.
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People are more worried about China than about the U.S. with its carrier battle groups. China with one carrier is enough to encourage China to do what it couldn't do for more than a century after European and Japanese occupation. Conquering the world.
China's humiliations at the hands of Western powers in the past centuries "left the Chinese people with the deep pain of having seas they could not defend, helplessly eating the bitter fruit of being beaten for being backward," said a front-page editorial in the paper.
That trend is changing as Beijing ramps up its military spending while Washington discusses cutting its much larger defense budget. Growing Chinese military reach is triggering regional jitters that have fed into longstanding territorial disputes, and could speed up military expansion across Asia.
In the past year, China has had run-ins at sea with Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines. The incidents -- boat crashes and charges of territorial incursions -- have been minor, but the diplomatic reaction often heated.
"The issue of transparency regarding China's defense policy and its military expansion itself are concerns not only for Japan but for the region and the international community," Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said on Thursday.
In the 2012 budget submitted to Congress this week, the Philippines wants to raise military spending to 8 billion pesos ($190 million) per year from a previous 5 billion.
"(China's military modernization) serves as a clarion call for the Philippines to also upgrade its military capability to patrol its waters," said Rommel Banlaoi, executive director at the Philippine Institute for Peace, Violence and Terrorism Research.
The Chinese carrier program could fuel the drive for submarines in Southeast Asia, said Rory Medcalf, program director of International Security at the Lowy Institute for International Policy in Sydney.
"There is already a submarine race, or submarine capability competition, in the region. This could add to that dynamic but I do not think it will be fundamental driver of it," he said.
COUNTERMEASURES
Japan's plan to boost the number of its submarines to 22 from 16, announced last year, was mainly a response to China's naval buildup, said Narushige Michishita, associate professor at Japan's National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies.
"Japan is already taking some countermeasures," he said.
As well as refitting the old Soviet-era carrier bought from Ukraine in 1998, China is building two indigenous aircraft carriers as part of a broad modernization program, sources told Reuters on Wednesday.
"Putting it in the overall context of China's expanding and modernizing military, there is some cause for concern," said Daniel Pinkston of the International Crisis Group in Seoul.
South Korea disputes territory with China, which is the major backer of the principal threat to security on the Korean peninsula, the North.
Taiwan, the self-ruled island China claims as its own and has never renounced the use of force to recover, will also be watching closely. It warned again last week about Beijing's growing military threat.
"In the previous 60 years, the threat to Taiwan was all from the west," said Alexander Huang, professor of strategic studies at Taipei's Tamkang University. "But with a moving platform, China can pose a threat to Taiwan from the eastern side, which means that Taiwan is threatened from all directions."
Others point to India, China's great rival as an emerging Asian economic and military powerhouse.
"If the Chinese leave the west Pacific, there's only one areas they're interested in, the Indian Ocean. In that sense, competition with (India) is inevitable," said Raja Menon, a former rear admiral in the Indian navy.
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People are more worried about China than about the U.S. with its carrier battle groups. China with one carrier is enough to encourage China to do what it couldn't do for more than a century after European and Japanese occupation. Conquering the world.
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By that time The above countries will have 60+ super duper carriers .
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NO MAN we need heavy carriers not super carriers.
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Stealthy, well defended, nuclear powered,ability to dump in water at maximum extent, good cbg with nuke subs,many aircrafts,electronic defence... makes a carrier super.
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no really
are the neighbors of china Innocent babies
drinking milk
all the neighbors of china have great armies,navies and air forces than why scared
its just propaganda
India has a carrier but Pakistan is not scared than why they are scared
are the neighbors of china Innocent babies
drinking milk
all the neighbors of china have great armies,navies and air forces than why scared
its just propaganda
India has a carrier but Pakistan is not scared than why they are scared
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China says rebuilt aircraft carrier for research
BEIJING -- China officially acknowledged Wednesday that it is rebuilding an aircraft carrier bought more than a decade ago, but says the refurbished ship will be used only for research and training a strong indication it plans to build carriers of its own.
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China says rebuilt aircraft carrier for research - The China Post
BEIJING -- China officially acknowledged Wednesday that it is rebuilding an aircraft carrier bought more than a decade ago, but says the refurbished ship will be used only for research and training a strong indication it plans to build carriers of its own.
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China says rebuilt aircraft carrier for research - The China Post
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Carriers are not built to showcase diamonds as in Cartier.
It is threat centric.
The numbers will depend on the threat perceived by China and the plans to counter it.
One wonders which friendly neighbour will feel secure. It is no secret that China is categorical to protect its military self interest rather than of friends.
Correct me if I am wrong.
It is threat centric.
The numbers will depend on the threat perceived by China and the plans to counter it.
One wonders which friendly neighbour will feel secure. It is no secret that China is categorical to protect its military self interest rather than of friends.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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I don't understand the term Friendly Neighbors, can you define how long can two countries be friendly. was it not in our experiance to see the hostility between all weather friends US & Pakistan
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