China and the Philippines: Asia's Most Toxic Relationship

[NaMaloom]

You need to work on your reading comprehension. No where in my comment did I say or insintuate China doesn't have corruption. The reality is corruption exists in all countries to a certain degree. The difference is China is advancing forward on the global stage at an unprecedented rate while actually fighting corruption in-house. That Xi Jinping fella is running a tight ship and showing the leadership of a competent leader. The Philippines? Quite the opposite.

China doesn't have time to waste on these irrelevant, neighboring countries who are only good for whining. They have their mind set on a bigger prize: world number one. In other words, China is playing chess while the rest are playing checkers.

Your comment DID insinuate that somehow Philippines is in the current situation vis-a-vis China because of its corrupt politicians. As for Philippines going in the 'opposite' direction of China; you probably live in some fantasy land since Philippines seems to be doing pretty well, always room for improvement. Not that I'm a Filipino, so dissing Philippines won't really get you anywhere with me.

I would argue that it is China who is playing checkers while the Americans play chess.

OMG are you really that stupid?

What a complete and utter noob thinking the Americans defeated the Soviet Union. Americans sure did a great job in brainwashing you kid.

Soviet Union collapsed because its economy was run by the state. A 100% state-run economy will always get into trouble if there is no private sector to back it up during economic downturns. Soviet factor prices were set by the state and when they tried to reform its economy by giving markets a say, it didn't free up factor prices which was still set by the state and led to companies cutting back on production to make a profit. To make profits, the state companies cut production which led to high unemployment and high inflation. It was a vicious cycle where if you increased production, you made losses, but the only way to make a profit was to cut production which decimated the economy. The state companies were not allowed to charge market price, the prices were determined by the state.

It had nothing to do with the Americans and certainly nothing to do with military spending.

Answer me this.....

Whats stopping the Americans getting into a war with China, if the Americans are not afraid?

Go on, I'll wait for your detailed explanation.

You do realize how stupid of a post that was right? The entire Cold War between Soviet Union and the United States was of Communism vs Capitalism. Americans (Capitalism) won and Soviets (Communism) LOST.. which is why your lovely China today pays lip service to Communism but runs the country American style. Even your communist leadership realizes that their own ideology of Communism is impractical and being smarter than you are, they run the country's economics Capitalist style but unfortunately they run the politics brutal communist style.

 

[Defunct]

Your comment DID insinuate that somehow Philippines is in the current situation vis-a-vis China because of its corrupt politicians. As for Philippines going in the 'opposite' direction of China; you probably live in some fantasy land since Philippines seems to be doing pretty well, always room for improvement. Not that I'm a Filipino, so dissing Philippines won't really get you anywhere with me.

I would argue that it is China who is playing checkers while the Americans play chess.




You do realize how stupid of a post that was right? The entire Cold War between Soviet Union and the United States was of Communism vs Capitalism. Americans (Capitalism) won and Soviets (Communism) LOST.. which is why your lovely China today pays lip service to Communism but runs the country American style. Even your communist leadership realizes that their own ideology of Communism is impractical and being smarter than you are, they run the country's economics Capitalist style but unfortunately they run the politics brutal communist style.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Yes, the Americans are playing chess. That's why China has continued doing as they please in the SCS, even though the US has told China to stop building countless times. Not sure what version of chess this is, but if the objective is losing, the Americans are dominating.

 

[Economic superpower]

Your comment DID insinuate that somehow Philippines is in the current situation vis-a-vis China because of its corrupt politicians. As for Philippines going in the 'opposite' direction of China; you probably live in some fantasy land since Philippines seems to be doing pretty well, always room for improvement. Not that I'm a Filipino, so dissing Philippines won't really get you anywhere with me.

I would argue that it is China who is playing checkers while the Americans play chess.




You do realize how stupid of a post that was right? The entire Cold War between Soviet Union and the United States was of Communism vs Capitalism. Americans (Capitalism) won and Soviets (Communism) LOST.. which is why your lovely China today pays lip service to Communism but runs the country American style. Even your communist leadership realizes that their own ideology of Communism is impractical and being smarter than you are, they run the country's economics Capitalist style but unfortunately they run the politics brutal communist style.

I'm still waiting for you to explain how the US will 'defeat' China if it's too afraid to use its military?

You said America 'beat' the Soviet Union without firing a shot. Then you say that the same will happen to China without a war.

So how exactly will the US beat China without a war? We both know the US military option can NEVER be used against China because of MAD.

China is constructing in the SCS to fully militarise the SCS but the US is afraid to destroy the constructions. China called America's bluff and America got its pants pulled down. China continues to surpass the US in economic measures with each passing year. It's the US that's afraid of a rising China.

Now, tell me how exactly will the US 'defeat' China? Give me a detailed explanation.

Go.

 

[empirefighter]

Funny，no Chinese think Philipine is important ，our relation is not good，so what？Philipine is useless for us，donot think yourself so important，the word "most ”is arrogant description.
Our focus：1st level（political，economic，military all important to us）：USA，Russia 。2nd level（economic or political or military is important to us ）：UK，Germany，France，Japan，Skorea，Brazil，India，Pakistan，Central Asia，Middle East，Australia，Indonesia，Manyar，Thailand，Singapore.
Maybe for you，we are all your consideration to deal with，for us，you are too weak to spend time.

 

[xunzi]

These delusional pinoy journalists are always trying to associate their country with ours. They are so desperate that they will even cling to negativity ('most toxic relationship') to push the connection. But the truth is that the relationship between a surging regional power and a minor peripheral state can never be the 'most toxic' or 'most' anything. There is simply no significance to a relationship like that.

Some country through the support of their master think they can harass and threaten us to give up our territorial rights. What a joke! Not only would we not compromise but instead we will show our power to protect our territorial rights.

 

[opruh]

Your comment DID insinuate that somehow Philippines is in the current situation vis-a-vis China because of its corrupt politicians. As for Philippines going in the 'opposite' direction of China; you probably live in some fantasy land since Philippines seems to be doing pretty well, always room for improvement. Not that I'm a Filipino, so dissing Philippines won't really get you anywhere with me.

I would argue that it is China who is playing checkers while the Americans play chess.




You do realize how stupid of a post that was right? The entire Cold War between Soviet Union and the United States was of Communism vs Capitalism. Americans (Capitalism) won and Soviets (Communism) LOST.. which is why your lovely China today pays lip service to Communism but runs the country American style. Even your communist leadership realizes that their own ideology of Communism is impractical and being smarter than you are, they run the country's economics Capitalist style but unfortunately they run the politics brutal communist style.

Both country, China and the Philippines are doing well in terms of economy. Last year I believe China and the Philippines ranked first and second respectively in terms of economic growth by major economies in Asia. It's true though that countless Filipino politicians are so corrupt, I don't have enough knowledge about Chinese politicians.

 

[Beast]

So china is just other country its not special as a filipino we would love to have no enemies but sadly china is threat to our food supplies our resources our national sovereignty as a country if only china has no nazi like ambitions and follow international law and respect other countries territorial waters and ezz's why not?

It's your corrupted governement that is the biggest threat to pinoy. Your government is using China threat topic to distract their inefficiency and corruption which is more of a threat to pinoy. Just like how argentina junta in the 1982 use falkland war to mask their corruption and poor economic management which end up as a massive failure. The real problem is Aquino. He leech on you ordinary pinoy.

 

[JSCh]

As Francis Fukuyama explains in his critically-acclaimed book The Origins of Political Order across the Sino-sphere, which covers Asia's most dynamic economies, Confucianism -- a philosophical tradition that sidelined 'legalism' as the enduring state ideology of Imperial (and post-Mao) China -- always emphasized the importance of amicable and ethically-inspired resolution of disputes instead of, say, confrontational litigation or brute force.

In the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), which has a significant Muslim population, the emphasis is on consensus-building and consultation, drawing on Islam's age-old tradition of deliberative/consultative governance, embodied by the concept of Shura.

In recent years, however, the veneer of Asian exceptionalism has been decisively shattered by a particularly bitter, acrimonious, and openly hostile relationship between China and Philippines over a whole host of disputed rocks, atolls, islands and fishers and hydrocarbon resources in the South China Sea.

The article talks about Asians' Confucian and Muslim way of settling dispute in non-confrontation manner.
Did he/she forget that Philippine, although is in Asia, but is the odd man out?
It is a majority Catholic country.
Therefore maybe more incline to open competitive powerplay in international relation.

 

[Zero_wing]

Oh please get over yourselves and your horns are showing.

It's your corrupted governement that is the biggest threat to pinoy. Your government is using China threat topic to distract their inefficiency and corruption which is more of a threat to pinoy. Just like how argentina junta in the 1982 use falkland war to mask their corruption and poor economic management which end up as a massive failure. The real problem is Aquino. He leech on you ordinary pinoy.

Wow as if majority of the ccp are morally upright the philippines is doing far better in terms of growth if what your saying is truth then my country stitutation can't be true but it is too bad for you all you to back up your claims like your threat to world peace claims is nothing but illogical crap good luck with that imperialist nut job

Your comment DID insinuate that somehow Philippines is in the current situation vis-a-vis China because of its corrupt politicians. As for Philippines going in the 'opposite' direction of China; you probably live in some fantasy land since Philippines seems to be doing pretty well, always room for improvement. Not that I'm a Filipino, so dissing Philippines won't really get you anywhere with me.

I would argue that it is China who is playing checkers while the Americans play chess.




You do realize how stupid of a post that was right? The entire Cold War between Soviet Union and the United States was of Communism vs Capitalism. Americans (Capitalism) won and Soviets (Communism) LOST.. which is why your lovely China today pays lip service to Communism but runs the country American style. Even your communist leadership realizes that their own ideology of Communism is impractical and being smarter than you are, they run the country's economics Capitalist style but unfortunately they run the politics brutal communist style.

That's the typical 50cent chinese for you arrogance with a capital a.

 

[ahojunk]

When Aquino is no longer president of the Philippines, relations will improve with China.

 

[Jlaw]

The American military can NEVER defeat the PLA....EVER!

There is a reason the American military is too scared to destroy the constructors in the SCS. Because the cost of going to war with China is far too great. The American military option will never be able to be used on China because of MAD.

What's the point of spending all that money on the military when you are too afraid to use it? Spends $600 billion on the military, brags about the 'invisible' military but still too afraid to destroy the Chinese constrictions.

China is constructing what we want, when we want and the American military is utterly powerless to stop it. The best they can come up with is flying close by?

China called America's bluff and the Americans don't know what to do or where to look.

If it was some mickey mouse defenceless country, the American military would have already bombed it. They would have bragged about what a 'supa powa' military they have and how everything went so well. But when it comes to China and Russia, the American balls shrink quicker than a dead money's nutsack.

As I said earlier, there is not a country on planet earth that can stop the rise of China. Learn to live with it.

If China's military is anything like India's military I am certain US would bomb the shit out of China.

 

[Zero_wing]

When Aquino is no longer president of the Philippines, relations will improve with China.

No it would not believe it

 

[Kyle Sun]

No it would not believe it

not very much but can not be worse than now.

 

[NaMaloom]

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Yes, the Americans are playing chess. That's why China has continued doing as they please in the SCS, even though the US has told China to stop building countless times. Not sure what version of chess this is, but if the objective is losing, the Americans are dominating.

Its a 'give n take' kinda thing. While China wasn't pushed too hard on the artificial islands it is building in SCS, the Americans did however bust Chinese plans to create an Air Defense Zone on the very next day the Chinese announced its creation by sending B-52s. That whole 'Air Defense Zone' announcement to protect 'Chinese airspace sovereignty' turned in to a farce with the B-52s doing as they please.

 

[XiaoYaoZi Backup]

Both country, China and the Philippines are doing well in terms of economy. Last year I believe China and the Philippines ranked first and second respectively in terms of economic growth by major economies in Asia. It's true though that countless Filipino politicians are so corrupt, I don't have enough knowledge about Chinese politicians.

No it would not believe it

It will become better, the relation of countries shouldnt be dominated by irresponsible and short-sighted politicans.