China and India New Coloniasts in Africa: German Daily

[Hasbara Buster]

Is it the Africans complaining that China and India are the new colonial nations or just the West?

The West. Because they are sooo concerned about Africa's future

 

[Esc8781]

The West. Because they are sooo concerned about Africa's future

The only real person that is concerned about the Africans are themselves, that's the only person they should trust!

 

[Hasbara Buster]

We are a democracy and we will promote democracy in Africa.

I hope not, democracy is evil.

 

[Esc8781]

I hope not, democracy is evil.

Freedom Fart!

 

[Hasbara Buster]

So now I am a Pakistani too.

I thought you were a Jew?

 

[faithfulguy]

I thought you were a Jew?

This scum bag is the biggest troll in the forum, worse than any Indian or Chinese.

 

[clmeta]

Are you including Arunachal in your "is colonised" remark? Oh sorry so called Arunachal.

india is always the colonized for 1000 years not the colonizer

He is obsessed with India. He may not know what the capital of China is. But he can tell you the names of all police inspectors in Jharkhand.
LOL

Are you trying to deny that you lack a functioning brain and that you are not off topic here?

 

[third eye]

The world better get used to India & China.

Both countries have to & will grow. Soon Brazil will also join the ranks - it may take a while as it has land and lesser population as compared to the Asian countries.

To grow both India & China would need "Lebensraum' - not in the manner Hitler wanted or any of the colonial powers of Europe did.

They have to give back as much as they get from the continent they expand themselves to - & this is what is being done.

 

[veekysingh]

Are you trying to deny that india had been colonised by central asian worriors for nearly 1000 years？

and what will you say about mangol's? forgot to learn own history son?

 

[Hellraiser007]

Unlike India, China's territory is less of water resources and not suitable to support large population. China's development is concentrated in north east remaining areas has scarcity for water.
What China is doing is worse than colonization, They are shipping convicts and prisoners to Africa and are changing the demography of that continent.

 

[xuxu1457]

another interesting things, I still remember that when China and India launched spaceships and rockets, west said "this can bring Air pollution and Space Junk", general the boss can arson but ban civilians lighting

 

[mfreak]

What China is doing is worse than colonization, They are shipping convicts and prisoners to Africa and are changing the demography of that continent.

Yes China can change the demography of ENTIRE AFRICA by shipping a few thousands convicts and prisoners. Please make some sense. Secondly where did you get that from? What is your source?

People who are bashing on China and people who are bashing on India, need to realize that this article is targeting us BOTH. So instead of getting our panties in a bind and laughing at the other, which is exactly what "they" want, we should show that India and China stand together. And they do, there are growing trade ties. Cooperation between India and China, like between the US and Canada in NA is very important for our success. That will be a power that is worth reckoning and that will be a power that is unbeatable. Instead of trying to take a dump in each other's oatmeal.

 

[Hellraiser007]

Yes China can change the demography of ENTIRE AFRICA by shipping a few thousands convicts and prisoners. Please make some sense. Secondly where did you get that from? What is your source?

People who are bashing on China and people who are bashing on India, need to realize that this article is targeting us BOTH. So instead of getting our panties in a bind and laughing at the other, which is exactly what "they" want, we should show that India and China stand together. And they do, there are growing trade ties. Cooperation between India and China, like between the US and Canada in NA is very important for our success. That will be a power that is worth reckoning and that will be a power that is unbeatable. Instead of trying to take a dump in each other's oatmeal.

Donot be ignorant, India's has its own bussiness in Africa no need to relate with oppressive regimes. Below are the links related to shipping of convicts.



China's newest export: convicts | Brahma Chellaney | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Footage shows brand new Angolan city designed for 500,000 lying empty | Mail Online

It is CCP's policy to ship convicts because they will work with minimum wage and there will be no holidays as they are convicts just like prision factories in China.

 

[mfreak]

Donot be ignorant, India's has its own bussiness in Africa no need to relate with oppressive regimes. Below are the links related to shipping of convicts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/28/opinion/beijing-a-boon-for-africa.html

China's newest export: convicts | Brahma Chellaney | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Footage shows brand new Angolan city designed for 500,000 lying empty | Mail Online

It is CCP's policy to ship convicts because they will work with minimum wage and there will be no holidays as they are convicts just like prision factories in China.

Your own sources delegitimize your comment. Here is an excerpt from the New York Times. Next time, take the time to read the article.

Despite all the scaremongering, China’s motives for investing in Africa are actually quite pure. To satisfy China’s population and prevent a crisis of legitimacy for their rule, leaders in Beijing need to keep economic growth rates high and continue to bring hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. And to do so, China needs arable land, oil and minerals. Pursuing imperial or colonial ambitions with masses of impoverished people at home would be wholly irrational and out of sync with China’s current strategic thinking.

Moreover, the evidence does not support a claim that Africans themselves feel exploited. To the contrary, China’s role is broadly welcomed across the continent. A 2007 Pew Research Center survey of 10 sub-Saharan African countries found that Africans overwhelmingly viewed Chinese economic growth as beneficial. In virtually all countries surveyed, China’s involvement was viewed in a much more positive light than America’s; in Senegal, 86 percent said China’s role in their country helped make things better, compared with 56 percent who felt that way about America’s role. In Kenya, 91 percent of respondents said they believed China’s influence was positive, versus only 74 percent for the United States.

And the charge that Chinese companies prefer to ship Chinese employees (and even prisoners) to work in Africa rather than hire local African workers flies in the face of employment data. In countries like my own, Zambia, the ratio of African to Chinese workers has exceeded 13:1 recently, and there is no evidence of Chinese prisoners working there.

And as for the other articles, which talk about human rights violations, I guess the prisoners would take working for China over being imprisoned in a prison.

And those ghost towns exist in China too. Its because the property is costly, and there is no one to buy it.

 

[Hellraiser007]

Your own sources delegitimize your comment. Here is an excerpt from the New York Times. Next time, take the time to read the article.

Despite all the scaremongering, China’s motives for investing in Africa are actually quite pure. To satisfy China’s population and prevent a crisis of legitimacy for their rule, leaders in Beijing need to keep economic growth rates high and continue to bring hundreds of millions of people out of poverty. And to do so, China needs arable land, oil and minerals. Pursuing imperial or colonial ambitions with masses of impoverished people at home would be wholly irrational and out of sync with China’s current strategic thinking.

Moreover, the evidence does not support a claim that Africans themselves feel exploited. To the contrary, China’s role is broadly welcomed across the continent. A 2007 Pew Research Center survey of 10 sub-Saharan African countries found that Africans overwhelmingly viewed Chinese economic growth as beneficial. In virtually all countries surveyed, China’s involvement was viewed in a much more positive light than America’s; in Senegal, 86 percent said China’s role in their country helped make things better, compared with 56 percent who felt that way about America’s role. In Kenya, 91 percent of respondents said they believed China’s influence was positive, versus only 74 percent for the United States.

And the charge that Chinese companies prefer to ship Chinese employees (and even prisoners) to work in Africa rather than hire local African workers flies in the face of employment data. In countries like my own, Zambia, the ratio of African to Chinese workers has exceeded 13:1 recently, and there is no evidence of Chinese prisoners working there.

And as for the other articles, which talk about human rights violations, I guess the prisoners would take working for China over being imprisoned in a prison.

And those ghost towns exist in China too. Its because the property is costly, and there is no one to buy it.

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