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China and India: Aircraft Carrier Plans Advance

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India and China are both beefing up their aircraft carrier forces through the induction of new carrier-operated aircraft.

On Saturday India’s Defense Minister AK Antony commissioned the country’s first squadron of Russia-built MiG-29K at the INS Hansa Naval near Goa near the Southern tip of India. The squadron, which will be named INAS 303 Black Panthers, consists of 16 MiG-29K fighters some of which were inducted into the India military three years ago allowing Indian pilots to become comfortable flying the aircraft.
India’s Economic Times reported that, “The MiG-29Ks, with a range of 1,300km and a service ceiling of 58,000-feet, are capable of STOBAR (short takeoff but arrested recovery) operations. They are armed with R-73 and RVV-AE guided air-to-air missiles, Kh-35E anti-ship missiles, KAB 500KR/OD TV guided bombs and S-8KOM rockets.”

The 303 Blank Panthers squadron fighters are the first of what will be a total of 45 fighters India has agreed to purchase from Russia for over US$2 billion, including 29 more MiG-29Ks.

The newly commissioned fighters will continue carrying out training exercises until November or Decemberwhen the Russian built INS Vikramaditya (formerly Gorshkov) aircraft carrier that is currently being refitted is scheduled to be inducted by India’s Navy. Delhi’s other aircraft carrier, the INS Viraat, is currently undergoing maintenance but will continue operating for at least the next few years and possible through 2018.

India also currently has plans to build two indigenous aircraft carriers (IACs). The first is a 40,000 ton vessel currently being constructed at Cochin Shipyard and is scheduled to be inducted into India’s Navy in the next four or five years. It will be placed in the water on August 12 of this year and will undergo its first sea trials 24 months after that, according to Antony.

While commissioning the new maritime aviation squadron on Saturday, Antony also marked the 60thanniversary of India’s naval aviation.

The day before the ceremony that Antony attended, on Friday, China announced it had formed its first carrier-borne aviation force. Citing PLA sources, China’s state media reported that the forming of the force— which will consist of “carrier-borne fighter jets, jet trainers and ship-borne helicopters that operate anti-submarine, rescue and vigilance tasks”— demonstrates that “the development of China’s aircraft carriers has entered a new phase.”

The reports also said that Admiral Wu Shengli, a Princeling member of the Central Military Commission—China’s highest military decision-making body— and the commander of the PLA Navy, attended the ceremony.

The media stories also focused heavily on the quality of the pilots that were included in the group. One report stated:

“The personnel of the force are more elite than the aviation forces within the PLA. To be able to fly fighter jets, the pilots should have flown at least five types of aircraft and their flight time must exceed 1,000 hours.

Rich experience in joint drills and major drills is also a prerequisite. The pilots also received training in courses like warship theory, nautical basics, and maritime meteorology.”

It also revealed that the Liaoning, China’s first aircraft carrier, is capable of holding around 30 fixed-wing aircraft, expected to initially be the J-15s.

China has plans to build a second, larger aircraft carrier that is capable of carrying more fighters. In its annual report on China’s military modernization last week, the Pentagon suggested that it believed China would complete this indigenous aircraft carrier within a decade.

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Black Pathers:rofl:

Didnt knew that Enemy is sooo impressed by PAF's JF17 that it named its first carrier born sqdn after PAF's Black Panthers:mps:

north korea only cares about their skin..they generally don't fight a war for China..hope Pakistan will follow the same path(like North Korea by not fighting other's war)..and India doesn't need help of Taiwan,Sk,Japan,EU etc..we only need moral support and only in very few occasion,some armaments..

Yeah Yeah grapes r sour.
 
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it is not yindoo..it is hindu..but it is not hindu also..it is India since Hindu is one of the religions in India..

i need no gongbazi or debazi telling me about the etymologic roots of yindoo and yindoos. yindoos should bear whatever name noble china bestowed upon them - and what china bestowed upon them didn't discriminate between their religions - and not what slavish names anglosaxon colonials gave them. gongbazi's sensitivity to anglosaxon usage of yindoo and their differentiation of various yindoo cults and gongbazi's insensitivity to the nobility of their chinese sovereign and the chinese tongue disgust me and speak of their slavish kowtowing to gongbazi and yindoos' common former colonial owners.
 
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Troll Alert... :help:

by the way...does Mig-29K uses this HMD(Topsight-I)..

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or is it this???(Topsight-E)

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any idea??
 
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i need no gongbazi or debazi telling me about the etymologic roots of yindoo and yindoos. yindoos should bear whatever name noble china bestowed upon them - and what china bestowed upon them didn't discriminate between their religions - and not what slavish names anglosaxon colonials gave them. gongbazi's sensitivity to anglosaxon usage of yindoo and their differentiation of various yindoo cults and gongbazi's insensitivity to the nobility of their chinese sovereign and the chinese tongue disgust me and speak of their slavish kowtowing to gongbazi and yindoos' common former colonial owners.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...ft-carrier-plans-advance-3.html#ixzz2TNP2riXP
Well u can keep bestowing the noble Chineees name for others not for us. We are better known in most part of the world.,
 
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Well u can keep bestowing the noble Chineees name for others not for us. We are better known in most part of the world.,

yindoo was once the more widely used term in the civilized sinic world, and it signified just an exotic foreign land. india is today the better known word, signifying the creation at the hands of anglosaxons of a group of slaves and a heterogenous, barely tied together piece of land with no coherent identity and periods of internal convulsion and violence and communal hatred.

commonality and popularity of usage is thus irrelevant: what is relevant is what amount of self-respect and self-worth yindoos can find in choosing sinic or anglophone names. that yindoos today like to allude to themselves as "indians" speak volume of the self-resentment, ignorance, and inferiority of their race and an unspoken, perverse affection, attachment, adoration of their white overlords.
 
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yindoo was once the more widely used term in the civilized sinic world, and it signified just an exotic foreign land. india is today the better known word, signifying the creation at the hands of anglosaxons of a group of slaves and a heterogenous, barely tied together piece of land with no coherent identity and periods of internal convulsion and violence and communal hatred.

commonality and popularity of usage is thus irrelevant: what is relevant is what amount of self-respect and self-worth yindoos can find in choosing sinic or anglophone names. that yindoos today like to allude to themselves as "indians" speak volume of the self-resentment, ignorance, and inferiority of their race and an unspoken, perverse affection, attachment, adoration of their white overlords.

LOL..a chinese noob is giving speech on "Hindu" and "India".. :taz:

the word "India" came from "Indus" river,which the greeks called the "Sindhu River"..don't mind,but why don't you go back into the hole you came from??and leave Indians choose which name they will prefer??do we give advice to the chinese members what to call themselves??
 
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i need no gongbazi or debazi telling me about the etymologic roots of yindoo and yindoos. yindoos should bear whatever name noble china bestowed upon them - and what china bestowed upon them didn't discriminate between their religions - and not what slavish names anglosaxon colonials gave them. gongbazi's sensitivity to anglosaxon usage of yindoo and their differentiation of various yindoo cults and gongbazi's insensitivity to the nobility of their chinese sovereign and the chinese tongue disgust me and speak of their slavish kowtowing to gongbazi and yindoos' common former colonial owners.

you talk about anglosaxon colonials- you are yourself in UK -what hypocriical talk..
 
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Indians don't even know how to operate their Russian imported carrier. The thing is India cannot make their components so they rely on Russia for everything. Russians even trained the Indians. I highly doubt the Indian military has the professionalism to operate a carrier. Indian military is a very unprofessional military. India certainly don't have the capability to make their own carrier, that's impossible for India.


Poor Baby ..... Did u check ur IQ level???... :rofl:
 
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yindoo was once the more widely used term in the civilized sinic world, and it signified just an exotic foreign land. india is today the better known word, signifying the creation at the hands of anglosaxons of a group of slaves and a heterogenous, barely tied together piece of land with no coherent identity and periods of internal convulsion and violence and communal hatred.

commonality and popularity of usage is thus irrelevant: what is relevant is what amount of self-respect and self-worth yindoos can find in choosing sinic or anglophone names. that yindoos today like to allude to themselves as "indians" speak volume of the self-resentment, ignorance, and inferiority of their race and an unspoken, perverse affection, attachment, adoration of their white overlords.

you realize that we indians named you guys chinese?

Popularized in the West by Marco Polo's early 14th-century Il Milione, which used "Chin" as a transcription of Middle Persian Čīn (چین), from Sanskrit Cina The Sanskrit name Cina appears earliest in the Ramayana, Mahabharata, Laws of Manu, and other Sanskrit texts in reference to the Qin
 
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totally different stories: china makes the plan because we really want to go ahead with this thing; yindoo only makes its plan because china wants to do this thing...oh wait, yindoos and chinese really are doing this for the same exact reason, hahahaha
but the chinioos are the ones who copied our plan , we have ACC since decades , indians and chinioos are doing for different purpose , chinioos want show off while indians want to go ahead :tongue:
 
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