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It's based on the J-11BS.


No, the J-16 is clearly a Su-30MKK development. Just look at the airframe, the stronger gears, the taller tails plus tanks, the IFR-probe.
 
No, the J-16 is clearly a Su-30MKK development. Just look at the airframe, the stronger gears, the taller tails plus tanks, the IFR-probe.

If you look at the tips of the vertical stabilizers, they match that of the J-11BS, not the Su-30MKK.
 
If you look at the tips of the vertical stabilizers, they match that of the J-11BS, not the Su-30MKK.


No they don't. The whole structure is taller including the taller rudder even if fin-cap is indeed not squared.

J-16 - Su-30MK2 - Su-27UBK tails ++.jpg
 
Interesting. How did they manage to do that though, given that they weren't license-producing MKKs?

... how did they manage to this for the J-15 given that they weren't license-producing Su-33 or how did they manage to this for the J-11BS given that they weren't license-producing Su-27UBK?

IMO by a decent analysis of the original parts and re-engineering. Or they got unofficially a licence that was never announced to the public??!! Just an idea.
 
... how did they manage to this for the J-15 given that they weren't license-producing Su-33 or how did they manage to this for the J-11BS given that they weren't license-producing Su-27UBK?

IMO by a decent analysis of the original parts and re-engineering. Or they got unofficially a licence that was never announced to the public??!! Just an idea.

They had a T10K prototype from Ukraine from which they developed the J-15. The initial license-produced Su-27SKs were from disassembled kits that could've given them a head start in developing the 11BS, or perhaps they took apart an UBK airframe.

I don't think there was ever reports of a MKK being disassembled (which would cause logistical issues) or the Chinese pursuing a license (which surely would've been reported by the Russians). The mystery remains.
 
They had a T10K prototype from Ukraine from which they developed the J-15. The initial license-produced Su-27SKs were from disassembled kits that could've given them a head start in developing the 11BS, or perhaps they took apart an UBK airframe.

I don't think there was ever reports of a MKK being disassembled (which would cause logistical issues) or the Chinese pursuing a license (which surely would've been reported by the Russians). The mystery remains.

Yes, for the J-15 my reply was more a joke, however for the J-11BS and J-16 they could have easily studiey the structure of of of those MKKs, which were destroyed in that storm a few years after delivery.
 
No, the J-16 is clearly a Su-30MKK development. Just look at the airframe, the stronger gears, the taller tails plus tanks, the IFR-probe.
If you are SAC and have developed J-11BS already, will you choose to copy Su-30MKK from zero, or develop J-16 on the base of J-11BS inspired by Su-30MKK?
Besides, you must know that J-16 and Su-30MKK have different interior structures.
 

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