JohnWick
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It all based in om grand father su-30.J-16 isn't based on the Su-30MKM, which the Chinese never bought.
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It all based in om grand father su-30.J-16 isn't based on the Su-30MKM, which the Chinese never bought.
Su-27UBK -> J-11BS -> J-16It all based in om grand father su-30.
It all based in om grand father su-30.
It's based on the J-11BS.
No, the J-16 is clearly a Su-30MKK development. Just look at the airframe, the stronger gears, the taller tails plus tanks, the IFR-probe.
If you look at the tips of the vertical stabilizers, they match that of the J-11BS, not the Su-30MKK.
No they don't. The whole structure is taller including the taller rudder even if fin-cap is indeed not squared.
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Interesting. How did they manage to do that though, given that they weren't license-producing MKKs?
... how did they manage to this for the J-15 given that they weren't license-producing Su-33 or how did they manage to this for the J-11BS given that they weren't license-producing Su-27UBK?
IMO by a decent analysis of the original parts and re-engineering. Or they got unofficially a licence that was never announced to the public??!! Just an idea.
Succesful persistent large scale industrial espionage.A better question is how a country that had a 30 years headstart ends up being nearly caught up now.
They had a T10K prototype from Ukraine from which they developed the J-15. The initial license-produced Su-27SKs were from disassembled kits that could've given them a head start in developing the 11BS, or perhaps they took apart an UBK airframe.
I don't think there was ever reports of a MKK being disassembled (which would cause logistical issues) or the Chinese pursuing a license (which surely would've been reported by the Russians). The mystery remains.
Succesful persistent large scale industrial espionage.
Succesful persistent large scale industrial espionage.
They were Su-27SKs in 1996.they could have easily studiey the structure of of of those MKKs, which were destroyed in that storm a few years after delivery.
If you are SAC and have developed J-11BS already, will you choose to copy Su-30MKK from zero, or develop J-16 on the base of J-11BS inspired by Su-30MKK?No, the J-16 is clearly a Su-30MKK development. Just look at the airframe, the stronger gears, the taller tails plus tanks, the IFR-probe.