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How did the U.S. Take advantage of the problems? 5000 US soldiers and Marines dead while spending hundreds of billions of dollars fighting a war against a radical insurgent group. It's seems like that is more of a problem rather than exploiting a problem.

US and China should have teamed up to exterminate the Taliban and Al-Qaida. Improving relations between China and US. Once the Taliban was no more, they both could have put investment into Afghanistan without the insurgent threat. Everybody would have benefited. China, U.S., and the people of Afghanistan.

But now since the Taliban is still a threat, once NATO leaves they will flood into Pakistan. Some al-Qaida members will go into China too. They will fuel terrorism and suicide bombing in Xinjiang.
Al-Qaeda Declares War on China, Too | The Diplomat

Maybe this is all Unrealistic, but I firmly believe there was a missed opportunity.
i think for Us its not a problem if they kill Pakistani or Chinies.
but what if they attack on us again like how media and stablishment painted a picture before.
will us come back and nuke them. instead of cluster and other crap.
its better to stay here for long term till they stop insurgent and think about attacking somwhere els.
china's policies are way better.. maybe slow compare to us. but at the same they no one hate chinies.
 
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Nothing will move till we want it to and we will move it the way it benefits us.

Thats the basic idea of what i have told. Assumption of things based on desire.

Has any grouping with China-Pakistan-Afghanistan formed in all these years? Even on paper?
If so whats the update? If not whats stopping you or even China?
 
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Thats the basic idea of what i have told. Assumption of things based on desire.

Has any grouping with China-Pakistan-Afghanistan formed in all these years? Even on paper?
If so whats the update? If not whats stopping you or even China?

As i stated earlier, we will let you do the talking. India will not be tolerated in our backyard, even if it takes another war.
 
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As i stated earlier, we will let you do the talking. India will not be tolerated in our backyard, even if it takes another war.


Who is this we?

Not tolerated in backyard.??

Wake up. We are signing deals after deals (like China),promoting defence ties with training and equipment, undertaking projects and implementing it, ..............while the hollow threats of we wont allow , we are supreme, we are like avengers, we are superman we do what we want hollow messages keeping on coming from that side creating good laughter for us.
 
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Premier says China to join Afghanistan’s infrastructure construction
Source:Xinhua-Global Times
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Chinese Premier Li Keqiang (R) meets with visiting Afghan President Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai in Beijing, capital of China, Oct. 29, 2014. (Xinhua/Ding Lin)


China is willing to participate in Afghanistan's infrastructure construction, Premier Li Keqiang said Wednesday.

Li made the remarks while meeting visiting Afghan President Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing.

Any country that wants to realize national prosperity and improve people's livelihood needs a safe, stable and harmonious neighboring environment, the premier said.

China is vigorously opening up westward, Li said. The country supports Afghanistan's peaceful reconstruction process and is willing to take part in building Afghanistan's infrastructure including railway, road, water conservation, and electricity.

China is ready to work with Afghanistan and the international community to promote Afghanistan's economic development and stability, and to maintain regional peace and stability, which is conducive to bilateral ties and cooperation, he said.

Ghani welcomed more Chinese companies to join in Afghanistan's peaceful reconstruction and vowed to provide security assurance and facility to this end.

Li pledged that Afghanistan will actively participate in the construction of the Silk Road Economic Belt, which is in the interests of regional countries' long-term development.

Sultan Ahmad Baheen, an official working at Afghanistan government, told the Global Times that Afghanistan is looking not only an important part of the Silk Road Economic Belt, but also a point connecting Asian countries.

Afghanistan will expand reciprocal cooperation with China and support South Asian nations to strengthen cooperation with China, Ghani said.

Ghani was sworn in as the new president of Afghanistan on September 29, and chose China as the destination of his first foreign visit as the last US and British troops officially ended their 13-year operations in the impoverished country on Sunday. Chinese President Xi Jinping held talks with him on Tuesday.
 
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Why cant these Afghans manage their own country?

Poverty :(8-)

Premier says China to join Afghanistan’s infrastructure construction
Source:Xinhua-Global Times
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Chinese Premier Li Keqiang (R) meets with visiting Afghan President Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai in Beijing, capital of China, Oct. 29, 2014. (Xinhua/Ding Lin)


China is willing to participate in Afghanistan's infrastructure construction, Premier Li Keqiang said Wednesday.

Li made the remarks while meeting visiting Afghan President Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing.

Any country that wants to realize national prosperity and improve people's livelihood needs a safe, stable and harmonious neighboring environment, the premier said.

China is vigorously opening up westward, Li said. The country supports Afghanistan's peaceful reconstruction process and is willing to take part in building Afghanistan's infrastructure including railway, road, water conservation, and electricity.

China is ready to work with Afghanistan and the international community to promote Afghanistan's economic development and stability, and to maintain regional peace and stability, which is conducive to bilateral ties and cooperation, he said.

Ghani welcomed more Chinese companies to join in Afghanistan's peaceful reconstruction and vowed to provide security assurance and facility to this end.

Li pledged that Afghanistan will actively participate in the construction of the Silk Road Economic Belt, which is in the interests of regional countries' long-term development.

Sultan Ahmad Baheen, an official working at Afghanistan government, told the Global Times that Afghanistan is looking not only an important part of the Silk Road Economic Belt, but also a point connecting Asian countries.

Afghanistan will expand reciprocal cooperation with China and support South Asian nations to strengthen cooperation with China, Ghani said.

Ghani was sworn in as the new president of Afghanistan on September 29, and chose China as the destination of his first foreign visit as the last US and British troops officially ended their 13-year operations in the impoverished country on Sunday. Chinese President Xi Jinping held talks with him on Tuesday.

Who can do it better than China at affordable prices nowadays?
Afghanistan has made the best choice so far for the country. :tup::D:agree:
 
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Beijing conference to build consensus on Afghanistan
An upcoming international conference on Afghanistan to be held in China is conducive to building consensus among the "Heart of Asia" countries, a Chinese envoy to the United Nations said on Wednesday.

The Fourth Ministerial Conference on Afghanistan, slated for Friday in Beijing with the theme of "Deepening Cooperation for Sustainable Security and Prosperity of the 'Heart of Asia' Region," is of "a great significance," Liu Jieyi, China's permanent representative to the world body, told reporters.

It will be not only the first large-scale international conference on Afghanistan China has ever hosted, but also the first international conference on Afghanistan since the formation of the new Afghan government late last month, he said.

"The Istanbul Process is so far the only regional cooperation mechanism on Afghanistan which is led by countries in the 'Heart of Asia' region," he said. "It follows the principles of regional leadership, regional ownership and consensus."

Liu added that the Istanbul Process plays an increasingly important role in building consensus among countries in the region, promoting regional cooperation on Afghanistan, and advancing peace and reconstruction in the country.

"Compared with other international conferences and processes on Afghanistan, the Istanbul Process places more emphasis on helping Afghanistan with capacity building and training," he said.

According to Liu, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and Afghan President Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai will attend and address the opening ceremony of the meeting, which attracts foreign ministers or representatives from 14 member countries of the process, 16 other countries, 12 supporting international and regional organizations, and four countries and organizations with chairmanship.

"China also hopes that the conference will help mobilize the entire international community to support Afghanistan," he said.

In November 2011, China, Russia, Afghanistan and Central Asian countries reached an agreement in Turkey known as the Istanbul Process, presenting a new vision for regional cooperation for a secure and stable Afghanistan.

The Istanbul Process holds a meeting every year. The previous three meetings were held respectively in Turkey's Istanbul, Afghanistan's Kabul and Kazakhstan's Almaty.
 
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I think there's no hope in Afghanistan.

Just wait... Taliban will rule again.

The only solution is to make peace and agreement with Taliban.
 
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Post-US era: Afghanistan, a closer ally with China?

China and Afghanistan have recently engaged in a flurry of diplomatic exchanges, including Afghan President Ashraf Ghani’s first state visit to China and an international meeting on Afghanistan held in Beijing on Oct. 31.

Afghan President Ashraf Ghani paid a four-day state visit to China, starting Oct. 28. This was his first trip overseas since taking office in September of this year. Chinese President Xi Jinping and Chinese Premier Li Keqiang extended him a warm welcome and pledged support for Afghanistan's reconstruction.

On Oct. 31, Beijing held its first international meeting on the subject of Afghanistan, the fourth ministerial conference of the Istanbul Process. During the meeting, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang pledged to offer 1.5 billion yuan ($244 million) in assistance to Afghanistan over the upcoming three years. He also vowed to help the country train 3,000 people of all circles in the upcoming five years, and provide 500 scholarships.

Ghani’s Beijing tour came only two days after the last dispatches of troops from the United States and the United Kingdom ended their mission in Afghanistan.

Is this a signal of a closer relationship between China and Afghanistan? Moreover, will China play a greater role than the United States in Afghanistan in the future?

A Chinese blogger wrote an article entitled 'China: from bystander to important player in Afghan issue' to elaborate on the future roles of China and the United States in the Central Asia country.

China: from bystander to important player in Afghan issue

On Oct. 26, 2014, NATO officially ended its combat missions in Afghanistan. Troops from the United States and the United Kingdom held a ceremony on that day to transfer two military bases to the Afghan military. NATO’s announcement indicates that its 13-year military occupation of Afghanistan has officially come to an end.

On Oct. 28, just two days after NATO’s announcement, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani started a four-day visit to China at the invitation of Chinese President Xi Jinping. This was Ghani’s first state visit since taking office. It aroused people’s attention when he chose to visit China over the United States for his first foreign trip as Afghan president.

The recent U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan and Ghani’s visit to China together show that international power relations have shifted. Over the past 13 years, the United States prevailed over the Afghan situation. But now China is becoming a more important player.

The 13 years of war in Afghanistan cost the United States trillions of dollars, and provoked the rise of many terrorists cells in the Middle East. The U.S. won the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, but gained little from their endeavors due to the large costs involved and new enemies created in the process of fighting these conflicts.

The recent diplomatic exchanges between China and Afghanistan have triggered jealousy from the West. The western media again labels China as ‘a free rider’. In fact, this is not free-riding. China simply rebuilds what the western powers have broken. China is a builder, first and foremost. That is why countries welcome China to participate in their reconstruction.

How has China changed from a bystander to an important player?

After the collapse of the former Soviet Union, the United States became the world’s only super power. By 2001, its global predominance was on the decline. The US planned to create a ‘global empire’ that could control the whole world for generations to come.

By occupying Afghanistan in the name of fighting terrorism after the Sept.11 attacks, the US attempted to achieve three purposes: the prevention of China’s influence over the Middle East, the interception of Russia’s influence in South Asia, and the eventual takedown of Iran.

The first two purposes were strategic, while the third one was the immediate intention. Its plan includes three steps: first, controlling Afghanistan, second, to encircle Iran by first controlling Iraq, and then, to take down Iran.

The U.S. was militarily unstoppable at that time. Therefore, under the pretext of ‘fighting terrorism’ and ‘upholding justice’, it waged the Afghan war after the Sept. 11 terror attacks. In 2003, it carried out the second step, invading Iraq. Even though the U.S. did not get UN authorization for the use of military force against Iraq, George W. Bush unilaterally launched the invasion of Iraq.

After the fall of Saddam's regime, the U.S. troops controlled Iraq. Its next target was Iran. Strategically speaking, if it could control Iran, then its status as a ‘global empire’ would be established. If that happened, the costs of these wars would be imposed on other countries.

Of course, Iran was prepared. On Feb. 9, 2003, more than one month before the Iraq war, then Iranian President Mohammad Khatami announced in a televised speech that Iran had discovered uranium ore and successfully extracted uranium. Iran began to use the prospect of having nuclear weapons technology to defend itself.

China, Russia, and the EU used the opportunity of solving Iran’s nuclear issue to delay the U.S. plan for war against Iran. Even at the end of George W. Bush’s term, the issue had not been solved. The U.S. was left in a very awkward situation. It could not go against so many countries and attack Iran, nor could it afford another war due to the country’s declining national power. Only until the 2008 international financial crisis broke out did the U.S. realize its decline and others’ rise, especially the rise of China.

At the end of 2008, the U.S. implemented quantitative easing (QE) to discharge its toxic assets. At the same time, it planned to adjust its national strategy. It intended to give China the No.2 position in the globe, helping itself manage the world affairs and shoulder more of its responsibilities. In that case, China would become the target of other countries, while the United States could still secure its crown. This was the motivation behind Barack Obama’s first visit to China in Nov., 2009. Obama put forward his proposal of the US and China jointly managing the world economy. Knowing it would make China a scapegoat, China rejected his proposal. Obama did not get what he wanted from this trip. His failure forced the U.S. to cope with the financial crisis with continued quantitative easing. In 2010, the U.S. established its strategy of rebalancing towards the Asia-Pacific region, and prepared to pull out troops from Afghanistan and Iraq.

China-Afghanistan cooperation began when the US prepared for withdrawal. As early as 2007, China Metallurgical Group Corporation and China’s Jiangxi Copper won the bidding for a cooper mine project in Aynak, Afghanistan. In 2011, China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) and the Afghan company Watan Group opened a joint-venture to explore oil and gas resources in Amu Darya Basin.

In 2013, China proposed the strategy of establishing the Silk Road Economic Belt, which was well-received by countries in Central Asia and Eastern Europe. Shortly after being informed of this strategy, Afghan President Hamid Karzai visited China. This act alone indicates that Afghanistan attaches great importance to this strategy.

The U.S. has withdrawn its troops from Afghanistan, and China has successfully held the fourth ministerial conference of the Istanbul Process on Afghanistan. The U.S. withdrawal and China’s engagement show that America’s use of force has failed and China’s proposal for economic development is gaining approval. For this reason China will likely have a stronger influence in Afghanistan over the years to come.

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As i stated earlier, we will let you do the talking. India will not be tolerated in our backyard, even if it takes another war.

This will works only inthis PDF.
AFAIK Indias cooperation is much deeper and a new Afghan President cant change the reality.That is why we have 4 consulates in there.Perhaps our networks is much wider in Afghanistan.
 
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We sir will take-care of that//////?????????
 
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China's strategic deployment in Afghanistan and central Asia grow fast in recent years, to have a peaceful environment, Afghanistan is the key. But I hope China do not engage too much, because this place is a tomb.
 
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Ahmadzai has acknowledged that all its neighbour and closest friends are using Afghanistan.

America is using them for power projection and so does the western world in the name of eradicating terrorism

India is using them for Pakistan or its own goal

Iran is not interested

Pakistan already has some strategic interest in Afghanistan

Leaving only China as the true partner and only been limited to development and stability of Afghanistan.


I am looking forward for route development to china through the wakhan corridor(If china could built Karakoram highway than developing a road through wakhan corridor should not be a problem)
 
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