China advocates a nuke-free Israel

[T-Rex]

Pakistan has a strong army and a strong alliance with China, and only one serious enemy (India)

Israel has a small population, small land, a strong alliance with a fading US, and has almost the whole Muslim world for a serious enemy.

Yes, Israel needs it more than Pakistan

Israel has the strongest army in the ME and the unconditional backing of the world's number one super power. If you say israel has the entire Muslim world as its enemy, then Pakistan also has the entire Europe(NATO), plus india, israel and america as its enemy. So, Pakistan's requirement for nukes is far greater.

 

[deep.ocean]

Why Iran is so anti Israel?
Why Iran need Nukes?
Why China wants Israel nuke free? and at least
Why Bangadeshi is so desperate to make Israel Nucke free? Is Israel going to take down their Fishes?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Why Iran is so anti Israel?
Why Iran need Nukes?

Why is the Middle East so anti-Israel?

Why China wants Israel nuke free?

Because a nuclear war in the Middle East will wreck the global economy.

Israel has a small population, small land, a strong alliance with a fading US, and has almost the whole Muslim world for a serious enemy.

True... but why?

Even Malaysia, which is one of the most peaceful nations on the planet, doesn't recognize Israel.

 

[T-Rex]

Why Iran is so anti Israel?
Why Iran need Nukes?
Why China wants Israel nuke free? and at least
Why Bangadeshi is so desperate to make Israel Nucke free? Is Israel going to take down their Fishes?

Why are some indians on this forum so desperate to prove their allegiance to the israelis? Are the indians going to get their meals from israel?

 

[RezRoll]

Israel has the strongest army in the ME and the unconditional backing of the world's number one super power. If you say israel has the entire Muslim world as its enemy, then Pakistan also has the entire Europe(NATO), plus india, israel and america as its enemy. So, Pakistan's requirement for nukes is far greater.

Compare the list of active number of troops between Pakistan and Israel :

List of countries by number of troops - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even a Pakistani won't agree with you on the enemy list. Has Israel ever threatened Pakistan? And America as we know, is an ally of Pakistan in the WOT. Most nations in Europe have nothing against Pakistan, so your list is flawed.

But anyway this thread isn't about "who deserves nuclear more, Pakistan or Israel?", so let's leave it at here.

On whether I advocate a nuke-free Israel, thinking strictly in an Israel point of view, the answer is NO.

 

[third eye]

Why are some indians on this forum so desperate to prove their allegiance to the israelis? Are the indians going to get their meals from israel?[/B]

Often when there is nothing worth while to post its better not to touch the key boards

Such posts create avoidable flame

 

[T-Rex]

Compare the list of active number of troops between Pakistan and Israel :

List of countries by number of troops - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even a Pakistani won't agree with you on the enemy list. Has Israel ever threatened Pakistan? And America as we know, is an ally of Pakistan in the WOT. Most nations in Europe have nothing against Pakistan, so your list is flawed.

But anyway this thread isn't about "who deserves nuclear more, Pakistan or Israel?", so let's leave it at here.

On whether I advocate a nuke-free Israel, thinking strictly in an Israel point of view, the answer is NO.

All the Arab countries together have far greater number of soldiers but it means nothing against an enemy which is technologically far more advanced. Anyway since the topic is not about that I say a nuke-free israel is the only option for a nuke free ME.

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Often when there is nothing worth while to post its better not to touch the key boards

Such posts create avoidable flame

You should have said this to your indian buddy.

 

[RezRoll]

True... but why?

Even Malaysia, which is one of the most peaceful nations on the planet, doesn't recognize Israel.

Why? That's a long debate for another day.

We're peaceful but you'll actually be surprise on how anti-semitic Malaysians actually are. I'll even admit, I grew up with some hatred for Israel for younger days, when my knowledge of them was less.

Once i debated this with my office colleagues, my colleagues could not believe that I was neutral in my analysis of my Israel and Palestinian, and started resorting to saying "Israel an evil nation with Zionist ambition.. blah blah blah.. don't be a traitor.. blah blah"

Recently, Chelsea football team played in Malaysia, and whenever Benayoun (a player of Israel descent) touched the ball, the whole crowd started boo-ing.. I found this embarassing more than anything else.

Personally, I don't base my judgement on my governments policies. To me, both Israel and Palestinian are both equally humans to me, both my brothers in humanity bond so when I give my opinions on this issue, I'm taking both sides into consideration.

For today's topic, I'm taking the Israel side into consideration, and I see no benefit for Israel in giving up nukes.

 

[sarthak]

Why are some indians on this forum so desperate to prove their allegiance to the israelis? Are the indians going to get their meals from israel?

Because israel is our ally , as Pakistan and China are bangladesh's allies. Do you even know how stupid you sound? All bangladeshis here blindly support Palestine and start ranting when indians show their support for israel. Only muslim indians have any sympathy for palestine, the rest of us hardly have any reason to support them because we know that when terrorists strike , it will be israel that helps us, not palestine. Hamas and palestinian rebels may be freedom fighters for you , for us , they are terrorists and whining on this forum about how treacherous , evil , zionist we indians are isn't going to change that.

 

[deep.ocean]

All the Arab countries together have far greater number of soldiers but it means nothing against an enemy which is technologically far more advanced. Anyway since the topic is not about that I say a nuke-free israel is the only option for a nuke free ME.

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You should have said this to your indian buddy.

Here I am..
So It's Israels's fault having Nukes? Isn't It fault of the Incompetant, Lazy, Oil Sucking, Dumb Middle East Countries Ignoring such a big threat....
Now Bangladeshi is complaining of Nukes of Israel.. Pathetic..

 

[T-Rex]

Because israel is our ally , as Pakistan and China are bangladesh's allies. .

Then you should not have uttered the word why in the first place.

 

[jdme]

China might as well advocate nuke free China.

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No, because Pakistan's nuclear arms aren't leading to any other countries developing nukes. Whereas in the case of Israel, it it pushing Iran to develop nukes, which might then cause Saudi Arabia and the other Arab nations to get them as well.

Next time try to stay on the topic, instead of derailing it on the 3rd post.

Was this before or after Pakistan helped NK develop nuke?

 

[Tshering22]

It's a traditional zionist lie mimicked by israel's ally like india. The illegal occupation of Palestine by israel and israel's inhuman attitude towards the Palestinians are the root causes of Muslim anger and hatred towards israel. Of course, israel's allies will always try to distract attention away from that fact. As for protection, to defend against an enemy armed with conventional weapons does not require nukes, it's a lame excuse used by the israelis and supported by the treacherous allies of israel.

Actually, no. It isn't that way. The simple reason why Muslims even in disconnected and far away lands like Brunei hate Israelis is because Israel doesn't take cr@p from its neighbors and doesn't let them have their own religious way inside their territory. Every attack is retaliated with 10 times the ferocity and every terror/jihadi threat is crushed flat. In short, this has become a religious mandate to hate Israelis rather than rationality.

Otherwise, what does a Muslim in Brunei, Malaysia, Indonesia, Sudan, Algeria, Libya etc has to do with Israel? No borders, no ethnicities, no claims. Nothing. To say that this is a "humanity" thing is false because then voice would be for ALL the aggressions in all continents and countries of the world, irrespective of belief or religion.

Israel is hated because it doesn't take nonsense from Islamic countries unlike how CONgress in India does.

 

[RezRoll]

Otherwise, what does a Muslim in Brunei, Malaysia, Indonesia, Sudan, Algeria, Libya etc has to do with Israel? No borders, no ethnicities, no claims. Nothing. To say that this is a "humanity" thing is false because then voice would be for ALL the aggressions in all continents and countries of the world, irrespective of belief or religion.

I agree. The voice should be against all aggresion around the world, be it in Sri Lanka, Philliphines, Thailand, India, ussia or China. Each of those countries mentioned have a fair share of regional problems which never get as much voice as the Palestinians do.

But just so you know, generalizing Malaysians to that list isn't a 100% true. The younger generation is slowly moving away from the borders that race and religion has presented to us, and we're slowly realizing, not all everything is black and white. Even among my friends, all of us have nothing against Israel, infact we consider Israel to be a distant land, it doesnt interfere with us at all.

Israel are embroiled in their own regional conflict, and so are many other countries. None of them takes preference over another. Peace wherever it is should be the ultimate aim.

 

[StormShadow]

VIENNA - China on Thursday reaffirmed its support for the establishment of a nuclear-weapon-free zone in the Middle East and said that Israel should join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) as soon as possible.

China has always supported the strengthening of international nuclear non-proliferation regime and has been committed to promoting the universality, effectiveness and authority of the NPT, said Huang Wei, China's deputy envoy to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

Huang told the ongoing IAEA board meeting that China advocates that Israel should join the NPT as a non-nuclear country as soon as possible and put its all nuclear facilities under the IAEA's comprehensive safeguards.

Meanwhile, all countries in this region should earnestly fulfil their NPT obligations, sign and ratify IAEA comprehensive safeguards agreement and its additional protocols, Huang said.

Huang also said that China welcomed the proposal of holding in 2012 an international conference on a WMD-free (Weapon of mass destruction) zone in the Middle East, which was agreed at the 2010 NPT review conference.

China also welcomed the IAEA initiative to host a forum in November on building a nuclear-weapon-free zone in the region, and hoped that parties concerned strive to implement relevant recommendations made by the NPT review conference, Huang added


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