Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[lcloo]

IMO because of its length ...more easily to target comparatively F22

May be, may be not. We don't really know.

B2 stealth bomber is larger but because of its shape and stealth coating it is pratically undetectable. Even the non-stealth B-1B Lancer bomber has a smaller radar signature (10m sq ) than early generation flankers (14m sq) because of its shape.

 

[cnleio]

 

[hk299792458]

J-20 #2011

Henri K.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

J-20 engine

 

[CrazyPaki]

J-20 engine

Which engine is it using?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Which engine is it using?

WS-10G

 

[cnleio]

 

[Pangu]

Looking good! Would love to see the J-20 training with the Russian T-50.

 

[BRASSNAUTILUS]

As for propulsion, China has make significant.progress and days of unpower issue is over. Look at WZ-10 attack helo coming out in number. And how many Type052D is being produce if engine is a problem still plague the warship?

Doesn't take a miracle engine to power a destroyer, it's far from a speedboat race. All Japanese warships built during the war did 35+ knots, didn't help them a bit against F6fs.
Sure China had made progresses, some in critical fields, but that is far from demonstrating they had "caught up" , which is what had been implied. Like you said, they are fielding WZ-10, not Apache.

China isn't happy with their powerplants. That gap is everywhere. Sometimes it meant very little, ie. LM2500 vs QC-280. Sometimes it makes a world of difference - 1,000KW turboshaft of Z-10 vs the GE on Apache putting out 50% more. Had they the right turbofan, J-10B would be very close to EFA and there probably wouldn't had been a J-20 program, but reality is J-10B isn't quite as formidable as F-16C/D, yet.

 

[Beast]

Doesn't take a miracle engine to power a destroyer, it's far from a speedboat race. All Japanese warships built during the war did 35+ knots, didn't help them a bit against F6fs.
Sure China had made progresses, some in critical fields, but that is far from demonstrating they had "caught up" , which is what had been implied. Like you said, they are fielding WZ-10, not Apache.

China isn't happy with their powerplants. That gap is everywhere. Sometimes it meant very little, ie. LM2500 vs QC-280. Sometimes it makes a world of difference - 1,000KW turboshaft of Z-10 vs the GE on Apache putting out 50% more. Had they the right turbofan, J-10B would be very close to EFA and there probably wouldn't had been a J-20 program, but reality is J-10B isn't quite as formidable as F-16C/D, yet.

Different countries , different needs. Let me ask you how many countries can produced 1000kw turboshaft? Why don't you go and put down the Eurotiger helo which uses also a similar 1000kw turboshaft and since like no one critise western europe lacking in propulsion advancement? WZ-10 is much smaller so that more can be pack and airflow by Y-20 plane for future global rapid development plan. I do not forsee PLA will need a apache attack helo in future.

QC-280 is perfect for our mass production destroyer Type 052D, and the future cruiser 055 will also used QC-280 to power it. This demonstrate the engine propulsion is perfect for our need. Its more of producing what suit us rather than blind follow of what American have.

 

[cirr]

 

[Bilal.]

@cirr, what does it say?

 

[hk299792458]

@cirr, what does it say?

Seems to be 2 poems, the first one written by the CEO of AVIC group, the second one by someone else, both are published in CAN News the official newpaper of aviation in China.

I can't clearly understand everything as I'm not good in chinese, but it should say that the program J-20 is going well, and it might have a naval version of J-20.

Henri K.

 

[itaskol]

 

[rcrmj]

J-20 engine

in 2016 J-20 will be equipped with F-22 alike 2 dimensional thrust vectoring engine nozzles, ``

and it will end all speculations on when, how and what engine will be used on J-20````its WS-15 with 2 dimensional TV nozzles

p.s WS-13 will be in mass production in 2016 too``