Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[kungfugymnast]

The English subs?

There's no English subs. The Hong Kong uncle said the J-10B with TVC could perform most of the F-22's moves but not the powerful vertical climb. The J-20A with WS-10C could perform some tight banks maneuver, vertical climb but without TVC & more thrust, it just can't compete against F-22. The F-35 however should turn around and flee if it's facing J-20 as the J-20 would easily kill the F-35.

Agreed, Binkov's videos are trash video game levels of analysis.

I remember watching one, might be a taiwan invasion by the PLA with the us backing taiwan.
where he declares that a country like china would run out of guided missiles after something like 6 months of war and therefore its airfare would have minimum effect on RoC/US ground forces after that time.
Like in what scenario, where china, with the largest industrial production on earth, doesn't produce more guided munitions such a war?
I think in the same video he thinks china will simply send its invasion force toward taiwan with virtually zero protection. its like his analysis was based on the chinese planners and generals being actually brain dead.

Also, Binkov scenario placed China as aggressor but he can say China didn't prepare and deploy all offensive forces on ready status before starting the invasion. The funniest part, the defender US and Taiwan could mobilize everything as if they were the attacker instead had all their forces on frontline when caught by surprise.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

There's no English subs. The Hong Kong uncle said the J-10B with TVC could perform most of the F-22's moves but not the powerful vertical climb. The J-20A with WS-10C could perform some tight banks maneuver, vertical climb but without TVC & more thrust, it just can't compete against F-22. The F-35 however should turn around and flee if it's facing J-20 as the J-20 would easily kill the F-35.


Also, Binkov scenario placed China as aggressor but he can say China didn't prepare and deploy all offensive forces on ready status before starting the invasion. The funniest part, the defender US and Taiwan could mobilize everything as if they were the attacker instead had all their forces on frontline when caught by surprise.

first study aerodynamics/aeronautics than talk

 

[kungfugymnast]

first study aerodynamics/aeronautics than talk

What does that got to do with the Hong Kong narrator's comment in the video? You don't need to study aeronautics just to repeat what the uncle said. You need either cantonese speaking skills or Chinese characters reading skills.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

What does that got to do with the Hong Kong narrator's comment in the video? You don't need to study aeronautics just to repeat what the uncle said. You need either cantonese speaking skills or Chinese characters reading skills.

 

[Deino]

Wow ... if true!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1452686967175630853

 

[johncliu88]

Dual seater is out now? That was quick, to my surprise.

 

[JSCh]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1452865649118748673

 

[IblinI]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1452865649118748673

not a rumor anymore @Deino

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1452865649118748673

Still waiting for confirmation, but it looks at least realistic … allegedly the first two images of the J-20 twin-seater were leaked. (Image via Quian CDer/SDF)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1452874222133563392

 

[SQ8]

Still waiting for confirmation, but it looks at least realistic … allegedly the first two images of the J-20 twin-seater were leaked. (Image via Quian CDer/SDF)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1452874222133563392

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I both see the utility and don’t. Simulator technology should provide all the pilot training required as such especially for a very connected 5th generation asset. Unless there is another purpose to it in terms of a “loyal wingman” control platform which would be very very forward thinking.

 

[IblinI]

Unless there is another purpose to it in terms of a “loyal wingman” control platform which would be very very forward thinking.

PLA trainer jet ends at JL-10
dual seat J20 is sort of like the mothership.

 

[jaybird]

Yeah, J-20 twin-seater is probably dedicated for drone swarm command/control force multiplier.

 

[Deino]

I know this is far from a conclusive confirmation or even a proof, but just after a rough comparison with single seater images, the new prototype - if real - has as expected a different and larger canopy.

So waiting now for better clearer images.

 

[araz]

But I see s huge single one !

Hi Deino.
Do we have any figures on WS10C MTBO? Help appreciated please.
Kind regards
A

 

[Deino]

Hi Deino.
Do we have any figures on WS10C MTBO? Help appreciated please.
Kind regards
A

Unfortunately nothing official. We have some rumours and reports claiming a thrust range between 142-145 kN, but nothing more.

Sorry