Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[LKJ86]

Via @现在又叫Songbird了 from Weibo

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1218428982833688576

 

[LKJ86]

Via CCTV 7 and @沉默的山羊 from Weibo

 

[Deino]

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Via CCTV 7 and @沉默的山羊 from Weibo

What do they say? I somewhere read "东空9旅有两个大队已经换装歼20" - via Google: "Two brigades of the East Air 9 Brigade have been remodeled for the J-20" - which i would transcribe into "Two daduis (?) within the ETC 9th Air Brigade have been reequipped with the J-20". And given that a dadui aka Flying/Flight Group consists of 8 aircraft this would mean 16 now within the 9th Brigade at Wuhu.

 

[UKBengali]

AIM-54 cannot really hit fighter jet at long range. In fact anything longer range than 150km has hard time hitting target because of loss of energy. To improve range, French use ramjet in Meteor so they can still reliably hit targets above 150km. China uses ramjet on several secret missiles now and PL-15 has dual motor to counter the fighter's dodging. PL-21 the long thin missile is similar to AIM-54 but lower drag. It is hard to hit fighter targets but designed for refuel plane or AWAC or transport. R-37 is similar to these as well. Huge drag coefficient just big fuel tank and big rocket or ramjet.

Truly the best form is ramjet but with different design to Russian Kh style or Chinese YJ style. Japanese ASM-3 shape for anti-ship and French Meteor shape is better. Chinese anti air missile has several like these but not shown except in some old diagrams from 10 years ago. Even better than these is another type that can in theory reliably kill fighter agile small targets from more than 300km with same probability as AIM-120D or PL-15. These launch missiles from a larger missile platform but must be dropped from large aircraft flying higher altitude and speed like JH-xx or H-20. Development must be together.

Meteor is mainly a UK missile.

 

[LKJ86]

 

[lcloo]

What do they say? I somewhere read "东空9旅有两个大队已经换装歼20" - via Google: "Two brigades of the East Air 9 Brigade have been remodeled for the J-20" - which i would transcribe into "Two daduis (?) within the ETC 9th Air Brigade have been reequipped with the J-20". And given that a dadui aka Flying/Flight Group consists of 8 aircraft this would mean 16 now within the 9th Brigade at Wuhu.

If 9th Brigade has 16 J20, then the known numbers would be:-

78X7X = 8
78X3X = 4
62X0X = 16

 

[Deino]

If 9th Brigade has 16 J20, then the known numbers would be:-

78X7X = 8
78X3X = 4
62X0X = 16

But is my 'translation' or interpretation correct?

 

[lcloo]

But is my 'translation' or interpretation correct?

Yes, your translation is correct.

according to Chinese search engine Baidu
zhongdui 中队= squadron = 4 fighter jets
daduii 大队= flight group = 8 fighter jets each.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Video for J-20 starts at 18:53 mark.

 

[LKJ86]

Via kj.81.cn and @沉默的山羊 from Weibo

 

[lcloo]

18 pilots and a single seater J20.

 

[jaybird]

Around 19:22 mark of the video posted by Siegecrossbow, it mention The Wang Hai J-20 Flight group "shot down" 29 other fighter jets in the exercise.

 

[ozranger]

Around 19:22 mark of the video posted by Siegecrossbow, it mention The Wang Hai J-20 Flight group "shot down" 29 other fighter jets in the exercise.

Those 29 are real US planes they shot down mostly in the Korean War. The Wanghai brigade is famous for their group shoot-down record against the US air force.

 

[Deino]