Deino
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But why deino said that China can't install WS series of engine and insisting this indeginous engine is AL-31 M2
You missed the point: I never said "China can't install WS". All I said is "based on my information and the assessment of other arguments I still come to the conclusion, that IMO the most likely option is still an AL-31FN (M2) based design".
That's a difference and I don't see why this is trolling as You reported exactly such posts ?? It's my opinion based on my considerations in the same way You and @Asok come to other conclusions. The difference is however the way You present them and personally insult another opinion. If You feel offended or even insulted by the fact alone that I have a different opinion You should at least never become a teacher. If I would take every mistake made by any pupil an insult like You guys deem my "opinion" ... uuiuiuiuiui, it won't be good.
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Just a kind reminder to both of You !
@Shotgunner51's call was not only a beg but an open moderator's call to calm down. It was kindly said but in no way open for any further discussion, his words are quite clear for anyone who can read and is willing and able to understand:
"... stop with their name-calling, personal attacks against nationality or profession (and these include certain smileys that's sometimes perceived as provocation, use some manner please). I suggest everyone only argue on technical matters, if anything is not confirmed it is admitted as such (until the true facts are confirmed, with data from credible sources). Personal opinions are allowed, personal analysis/investigations are encouraged (putting bits and pieces together, and reach one's own conclusion or assumption)."
Not sure what You both did not understand? As such this is the last warning - now from me in the role as a moderator - STOP exactly these things mentioned above or face the consequences.
But is @Deino has a better sources than our Chinese friends, and I am not insulting deino but just asking him to clear his opinion
Thanks for raising this point, which is true - but for all here. The point is and here I'm not sure what's Your or Mr. Asok's academic background not only the availability of "sources" but also their weighting against each other if they are contradicting is important. It's the assessment of what source is more reliable than another and drawing conclusions. To admit after two academic diplomas in Chemistry and Education I think to tell I'm illiterate while at the same time posting calculations a true aeronautical engineer is laughing an *** is pathetic and arrogant. One can come to other conclusions due to the points I mentioned above (aka the weighting of different sources)
I can only say that I have "sources" in China, in Russia and not only in other foreign-language forums. I'm in discussion with native Chinese, with guys who have a close relationship to the Aerospace Industry and even the military. All these guys are helpful, honest, respectful and patient. They listen to my concerns and explain. I'm very thankful. Anyway, Yes I make mistakes, the language barrier is huge - but not surmountable if You have the correct contacts and assistance in translation and "reading between the lines" - and surely the cultural differences is another issue. But that does not mean automatically each and every conclusion is wrong. Even more in return picking only the arguments You like without being even willing to look at a certain contra-argument is in no way academic, literate or logical ... but that has anyone to decide for his own.