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The name "Lighting II" is not used very frequently. It's simply a dumb name. "fat lightening" may sounds good in Chinese, but will be lost to English audience.

I invented nickname "Flying Pig" for F-35. This Flying Pig will get roasted, since it Can't Climb, Can't Turn, Can't Fight and Can't Run.:laughcry:

The fat body of F35 may reduce the score of maneuverability, but the powerful F135 engine can make it up. I guess F35 should have decent flying performance.

Inventing nicknames is just about the most you can do for this forum.

For the silent readers out there, I offer you a more technically revealing response to these childish name callings by the Chinese members of this forum...

https://defence.pk/threads/f-22-f-3...-news-discussions.179287/page-39#post-9179585

just relax, some Chinese mumber make nicknames just for fun, they also do this to our owe plane or other weapons, some nicknames are also looks 'ugly'.
 
The fat body of F35 may reduce the score of maneuverability, but the powerful F135 engine can make it up. I guess F35 should have decent flying performance.
A cylinder is 'fat' compares to other shapes, and yet we have missiles that can turn at double digits g, eh ?

Calling the F-35 a 'fat pig' is nothing more than revealing of the person's ignorance in the technical realm and his overall immaturity.
 
What will be J-20's Ace in WVR with the fiercesome F-22?

The objective of the J-20 project is to create a fifth generation fighter that will be F-22. It follows almost word to word the 5S requirements developed for the Advanced Tactical Fighter, ie. the F-22. Whether J-20 will able to achieve this lofty goal of beating F-22 remains to be see. It's simply too early to tell.

One thing for sure, that J-20 will have an Ace against F-22 ,when it comes to WVR combat with F-22. This Ace turns out to be the helmet mounted cueing system. It is certain that J-20 will have a Helmet Mounted Sight Cueing System to give target information to the missile, since J-10, Sukoi Flankers, Mig-29, Mig-35, F-16, F-15, F-18, F-35, Rafael, Typhoon, and Gripen all have it.

F-22, notably, does not have it.

There is a significant chance that two 5th generation fighters will face each other in a close range dog fight, simply because their radar's detection range will be greatly reduced.

Today's short range missile like AIM-9x, and PL-10 have IR Imaging System, that is hard to fool, and capable of 60g, that is hard to out maneuver, making it almost impossible for the targeted plane to escape.

When that happens, whoever shoots first, will kill first.

With the 360-degree Spherical Situational Awareness, given by the Distributed Aperture System (DAS), J-20 will be even able to shoot over the shoulder or backward, with its deadly PL-10e, High-Off-Bore Sight missile.

Will J-20 have a "First to Shoot", "First to Kill" advantage over F-22, in WVR combat?

Looks like it.
 
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WS-15 for J-20...

WS-15.jpg
 
Any link to the video? as seems like very neat & clean design... looks impressive if it is WS-15


Indeed and what surprises me - since this version of the same image is much clearer than the one I knew before - are these exhaust pedals, which are again unique ! Like I said before so often; each type of engine has its own design of nozzle...

WS-15 nozzle vs. WS-10.jpg
 
Indeed and what surprises me - since this version of the same image is much clearer than the one I knew before - are these exhaust pedals, which are again unique ! Like I said before so often; each type of engine has its own design of nozzle...

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Above/previous picture seems to be high quality image and engine is neat & clean but from that angle, cannot confirm the nozzle however, each type of engine with unique design may hint about two or more engines in testing form/installed on birds but same engine cannot be built with different petals until & unless in testing phase to finalize through behavior of different petals on same engine. That is why, requested for video link that we may have a chance to look at engine petals.
 
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Do an Image Search on Google, next time, there is an unidentified image, with no link. Otherwise, the saying, "There is a Fool born in every minute", might turn out to be true.
 
Agreed, but it wasn't me who posted the original image !
 
Since it's an obvious fail with no value for discussion. I say, delete this picture and all follow up responses, so it won't pollute this thread.
 
Since it's an obvious fail with no value for discussion. I say, delete this picture and all follow up responses, so it won't pollute this thread.

Indeed ... what a fail !!! :hitwall:

However strange enough that this image is around as a WS-15 since October 2016 and no one noticed !

Deino
 

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