Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[Superboy]

 

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Still on paper we all know that
secondly j-31 fighter is complete foreign plane for Paf its Not a partner I did Not believe Chinese fill give full ToT to pakistan if they give it will be have some threads attach Chinese are not fools they spends not millions But billions on this program they will Not give it that easy as you thing dude Look at other Fifth generation programs like jsf nd pak fa Learn it form that thirdly if some how Chinese will agree It will cost Pakistan much high.and by looking today scenarios paf can t afford it like J-10b program got Delayed

So now you change your stance and rather jumped to TOT and still on paper $hits. How do you know what is on paper won't be real? Its not Indian HAL or DRDO stuff, PAC and China are known to produce quality and deliver on time. Here learn some,

• Has JF-17 block-I been on time? Yes it has been.
• Has block-II started its development in time? From various insider news, we know it is and even Chinese fellows in the second quarter of 2012 had revealed that JF-17 Block-II has taken its first flight.
• Has Pakistan already signed MOU to develop stealth fighter together with China? again Yes we have.
• Is J-31 for export and available to Pakistan? Think Pak China relationship and you would know the answer.

Now everything which we intended is begin done and by the year 2018 as you put, we will have good muscles. But you won't need to be satisfied with anything we do, after all this development is against our enemies and only friends should be happy with such developments.

 

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brother dont think Chinese will give full tot paf but if some how they give it will cost them sky high they are not in position too induct it in adequate no look at how j-10b program delayed bec of lack of funds fifth generation tech is very costly to bear alone thats why even usa needs partner in their JSF program and Russia as well Chinese are not fools they spends billions on this progran

Congratulations to you my friend. Pakistan has started production of Block-II - on time again!

In mid 2012, its prototype had taken its first light and today Pakistan is starting Production of Block-II. Amazing aren't they. PAF will be owesome by 2018.. you agree more than before don't you.. but even if you don't, your "Still on paper" $hit has received an answer.

 

[MilSpec]

In mid 2012, its prototype had taken its first light and today Pakistan is starting Production of Block-II. Amazing aren't they. PAF will be owesome by 2018.. you agree more than before don't you.. but even if you don't, your "Still on paper" $hit has received an answer.

With what? a Chinese plane assembled in pakistan, ren de, we've been doing that since Mig21 days...

 

[Bilal.]

With what? a Chinese plane assembled in pakistan, ren de, we've been doing that since Mig21 days...

How many Indian engineers were involved in conceptualisation, design and development phase of the Mig-21?

 

[akand bharat]

Has Pakistan already signed MOU to develop stealth fighter together with China? again Yes we have

The link post is for stealth variant of Jf-17 Not J-31 Dude and link it self debatable when there is written on link itself



BUT THERE IS NO SOURCE TO VERIFY IT.

China and Pakistan have reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a stealth versionof a light-weight fighter aircraft being jointly produced by them.
F-17 Thunder, also known as FC-1, being jointly built by Kamra-based Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and Chengdu Aerospace Company (CAC) made its first appearance at an international air show having flown in here after making refueling stops in Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

The plane, which has been in development in one form or another since 2000, is a symbol of cooperation between China and Pakistan and the first assembled version brought out by the Kamra plant, delivered in November last year, according to 'Show News,' a special issue of defence journal Aviation Week for the Farnborough Air Show.


"The two (countries) have also reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to develop a stealth variant of the JF-17 Thunder," it said.

The journal said that Pakistan Air Force (PAK) is expected to acquire around 250 JF-17s, but this may be a split of 100 in the JF-17 configuration, being displayed at the air show here, and 150 of the stealth multi-role combat aircraft (MCRA) between 2015 and 2025.




No J-31 is mentioned here my but Jf-17 stealth variant We have same program too in Form of Lca Mk3 stealth variant of Lca is built on the basis of tot available from pak fa and mmrca
India's indigenously developed supersonic fighter aircraft to be developed into a stealth platform.
Dr. V.K Saraswat, presently the Scientific Advisor to India's Defence Minister, delivered a keynote address at the recently held Aerospace Forum in Sweden that concluded on the 3rd of June, this year. Titled, 'Vision for India’s Future Aerospace and Defence', he spoke of some of big ticket Aerospace development projects currently underway or are to commence shortly.

Among these would be a programme to integrate technologies developed as part of India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft [AMCA] programme into the Light Combat Aircraft [LCA], Tejas. This variant would be identified as Mark III.

"Many of these technologies could also find their way into the Light Combat Aircraft Mk. 3 that is to be more stealthy than the current Mk. 2 version, which is due to fly in the next two years with the General Electric F414 engine and be ready for operational trials in 2016. The Mk. 3 is to have up to 70% composite content, almost double the current version's level, and could be powered by India's Kaveri turbofan, if that troubled program gets back on track."

Dr. Saraswat's talk has been summarised in an article that appears in the latest issue of the Aviation Week & Space Technologymagazine. You could read the full article below.

 

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BUT THERE IS NO SOURCE TO VERIFY IT.

The link post is for stealth variant of Jf-17 Not J-31 Dude and link it self debatable when there is written on link itself

BUT THERE IS NO SOURCE TO VERIFY IT.

What do you need as a proof? PAF chief himself coming and giving a statement in your "honor" ? Obviously you wouldn't trust your own resource either.

China-Pak in MoU to Develop Variant on JF-17 Thunder

But why is this denyel? 2 Days ago you weren't sure about Block-II and it has started its production now. How much would you hide behind your "won't work", "still on paper", "won't get TOT" stuff.. Its coming and written on the wall.. hide from it if you can.

 

[MilSpec]

How many Indian engineers were involved in conceptualisation, design and development phase of the Mig-21?

my bad, I dont want to hurt ego's here!

 

[Bilal.]

my bad, I dont want to hurt ego's here!

Non hurt but a simple question went danced around

 

[Bratva]

my bad, I dont want to hurt ego's here!

A mere verbiage.

 

[akand bharat]

Is J-31 for export and available to Pakistan? Think Pak China relationship and you would know the answer.

Its Not about relationship In geopolitical world we have same relations with Russia But We are still paying 100 Million Per unit for FGFA still sharing the 30-40% cost of the whole 30 billion program Dude China do not invest in Multi-billion program to give it too Paf for charity

What do you need as a proof? PAF chief himself coming and giving a statement in your "honor" ? Obviously you wouldn't trust your own resource either.

China-Pak in MoU to Develop Variant on JF-17 Thunder

But why is this denyel? 2 Days ago you weren't sure about Block-II and it has started its production now. How much would you hide behind your "won't work", "still on paper", "won't get TOT" stuff.. Its coming and written on the wall.. hide from it if you can.

"still on paper" implies the aircraft still not flying in air Same goes for Lca mk2 which is in the production stage prototype still not came out yet for both

 

[MilSpec]

A mere verbiage.

sure, i dont want to start asking uncomfortable JF 17 questions, with fuming moderators, on a J10 thread. I'm not going anywhere, If you do want to dissect Jf17, how bout discussing it on Jf17 thread, enlighten me, I am looking for information
JF-17 Thunder - Information Pool | Page 28

 

[Bratva]

sure, i dont want to start asking uncomfortable JF 17 questions, with fuming moderators, on a J10 thread. I'm not going anywhere, If you do want to dissect Jf17, how bout discussing it on Jf17 thread, enlighten me, I am looking for information
JF-17 Thunder - Information Pool | Page 28

And so you were properly informed there. Bilal made an interesting observation were you involved with MIG 21 and SU 30 from scratch?. You can't compare MIG-21 adn SU-30 Assembling with JF-17 which when get sold to other nations. Pakistan would get a share from it. Now can it occur with MIG 21 or SU 30?

 

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Its Not about relationship In geopolitical world we have same relations with Russia But We are still paying 100 Million Per unit for FGFA still sharing the 30-40% cost of the whole 30 billion program Dude China do not invest in Multi-billion program to give it too Paf for charity.

The Problems which India is having is India's problems and the development which we are doing internally or with China is our relationship. If your relationship with your gf has been bad, its bad idea to think that every relationship is like yours.

"still on paper" implies the aircraft still not flying in air Same goes for Lca mk2 which is in the production stage prototype still not came out yet for both

I just showed you development of the block-II started and officially publicized by PAC. We are not talking about "Started design on paper" but its PRODUCTION has started - (a tip for you, read the posted news again). You look so miserable when you move your argument to TOT and then to COST and India had to pay 100mills stories. You mentioned Pakistan wouldn't have high-tec equipment by 2018 and in 2013 we have started PRODUCTION of bock-II which just like book-I will complete in time and you will find block-III production well before 2018. Now stop being lousy and talk some sense - if you actually can.

 

[帅的一匹]

Indian poster in this thread are too ignorant to be replied, mighty LCA is the best fighter in this universe. We Chinese know what Indians capable of, get out this thread before you look more stupid.