Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
What is the vision 2025 for PAF?
How many combat aircraft they want to operate? 250 thunders and 60 F-16 make it 300+ fighters. This doesn't left PAF to spend more on numbers, may be 2 more squadron of 5th gen around 2025. 350+ is a good number for a country size of pakistan. Mind you, 350+ might be lesser than current strength but overall higher in capabilities.
its not about increasing the number of combat aircraft. roughly 350-375 are servicable. its about modernization of the fleet. induct more F-16s new or upgraded, 150 Thunders Blk-1-2-3 will replace the A-5's (completed), older mirages and F-7's. J-10B/FC-20 is a possibility if it is powered by a chinese engine, the J-16 may be on offer but thats around 2025. fleet tankers, AWACS, air defence systems.
350+ might be lesser than current strength but overall higher in capabilities.
Sir I have already stated what you infer.
However the number do matter in terms of maintenance and purchase cost. By number I am trying to figure out where is the space for new aircraft. PAF, I believe can not afford to maintain more than 350-375 4th and 4+ gen fighters and if thunders, F-16 and 2-3 sqdn of 5th gen (in future) already makes the number where is the space left to posses J-10/J-16. I dont think you have that money to waste in stop gap measures before getting hands on a cheap 5th gen fighters.
u say space for new aircraft - not in terms of new sqdns but replacement / modernization, there is plenty of space. for example, the J-10 would replace the mirage-ROSE squadron in the tactical/night attack role. J-16 could start replacing the older F-16s at some point. it is hoped that the economy will not flounder at 3-4% growth but improve if the basic economic fundamentals are improved. money is always available, not in abundance but enough. we dont want more than 20-22 combat squadrons. its about improving the technological edge.
u say space for new aircraft - not in terms of new sqdns but replacement / modernization, there is plenty of space. for example, the J-10 would replace the mirage-ROSE squadron in the tactical/night attack role. J-16 could start replacing the older F-16s at some point. it is hoped that the economy will not flounder at 3-4% growth but improve if the basic economic fundamentals are improved. money is always available, not in abundance but enough. we dont want more than 20-22 combat squadrons. its about improving the technological edge.
Just my personal opinion: I think it is better for Pakistan to wait for J-31 (F-60). It makes sense on multiple levels. First and foremost, introducing the J-10B (FC-20) will cause maintenance issues since Pakistan will probably need to support a WS-10 variant engine. This is not a problem for the J-31, which will use WS-13 (RD-93 derivative) that will be compatible with the engines on JF-17s. Secondly, J-31 offers true Fifth gen capabilities. Given that India will introduce FGFA in the late 2010s and early 2020s time frame, it makes more sense to purchase a smaller number of capable fighters that could at least match the IAF fighters' performance.
That's of course the preferable way, but the problem will remain the funding, even more for a twin engined 5th gen fighter, that is far more expensive to procure and to operate. The fact that it uses the same engine as JF 17 will only be a small advantage.
A J10C (IF it will come with CFTs), will offer more capabilities at least over JF 17 and would be more affordable.
Just my personal opinion: I think it is better for Pakistan to wait for J-31 (F-60). It makes sense on multiple levels. First and foremost, introducing the J-10B (FC-20) will cause maintenance issues since Pakistan will probably need to support a WS-10 variant engine. This is not a problem for the J-31, which will use WS-13 (RD-93 derivative) that will be compatible with the engines on JF-17s. Secondly, J-31 offers true Fifth gen capabilities. Given that India will introduce FGFA in the late 2010s and early 2020s time frame, it makes more sense to purchase a smaller number of capable fighters that could at least match the IAF fighters' performance.
Photoshop, posted before.. debunked before. but people just need to post stuff for the heck of it.Is it real? Doesn't seem to be photoshop but I cannot believe I am looking at twin engine J-10!!??!!