Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[BATMAN]

^^ PAF is very happy with RD-93 from beginning and they say it openly.

Infact, RD93/33 got a new life after Pakistan appreciated it and used it.. otherwise the maintainence record of RD33 with IAF was brought bad name to a fine product.

India used to blame Russian design, when ever their mig used to crash, while real reason was poor technical staff in IAF.

The Chinese J-10B fighter is not yet equipped with the domestic WS-10A engine suggests the sales to Pakistan may have to wait for quite a long time.

PAF is not getting J10 because of its price vs value JF-17 offer.

I doubt, PAF will ever go for J10.

 

[sancho]

^^ PAF is very happy with RD-93 from beginning and they say it openly.

Infact, RD93/33 got a new life after Pakistan appreciated it and used it.. otherwise the maintainence record of RD33 with IAF was brought bad name to a fine product.

India used to blame Russian design, when ever their mig used to crash, while real reason was poor technical staff in IAF.

You do know that the RD33 is used only in the Mig 29s right? The engine issues are with the Mig 27 and earlier Mig 23s.

 

[SQ8]

You do know that the RD33 is used only in the Mig 29s right? The engine issues are with the Mig 27 and earlier Mig 23s.

I believe there were issues with the early rd-33 for the IAF.

The Comptroller and Auditor General of India published on 31March1993 the results of an in depth study on the operational performance and reliability of the MiG-29 aircraft. This study was first reported in Aviation Week & Space Technology during 25July1994 (pg.49), and has been obtained by author from Mr. Pushpindar Singh, of the Society of Aerospace Studies, New Delhi.

...
There were extensive problems encountered in operational and maintenance due to the large number of pre-mature failures of engines, components, and systems. Of the total of 189 engines in service, 139 engines (74%) failed pre-maturely and had been withdraw from service by July 1992, thus effectively shutting down operations. 62 of these engines had not even accomplished 50% of their 300 hours first overhaul point. Thus the desired serviceability showed a steadily decreasing trend.

Engineering reports mainly attribute RD-33 failures to design/material deficiencies causing discolored engine oil (8), cracks in the nozzle guide vanes (31), and surprisingly, foreign object damage (FOD). The eight material deficient engines (discolored oil) were repaired by the contractor under warrantee provisions, but the engines had to be recycled to the manufacturer. The thirty-one engines with cracks in their nozzle guide vanes were fixed in the field by contractor teams and adjustments were made to the entire engine fleet. But even though the incidents reduced the occurrences of the cracks, they continued. But the FOD situation is the most interesting, especially after the inlet FOD doors received world press coverage, but there were other concerns about production quality control that led to problems.

Fighter Aicraft, MiG-29/4

 

[fatman17]

^^ PAF is very happy with RD-93 from beginning and they say it openly.

Infact, RD93/33 got a new life after Pakistan appreciated it and used it.. otherwise the maintainence record of RD33 with IAF was brought bad name to a fine product.

India used to blame Russian design, when ever their mig used to crash, while real reason was poor technical staff in IAF.



PAF is not getting J10 because of its price vs value JF-17 offer.

I doubt, PAF will ever go for J10.

it will with chinese engine not the russian engine.

 

[Bamboo Castle]

it will with chinese engine not the russian engine.

Well then, let the Chinese develop the engine first...

 

[2ndslip]

I have heard and read that Pakistan is due to get 36 odd J-10s. Is this true?

 

[BATMAN]

Well then, let the Chinese develop the engine first...

Engine is ready but as long China is getting engines from Russia.. China will keep refining its own engine.

China will never produce engine, if it has similar performance as Russian engines, or unless Russia blocks supply.

China is not going to go in production only for Pakistan sake.

 

[2ndslip]

so are we getting them or not bhai?

 

[Storm Force]

J10 is not arriving due to engine. Since jf17 is carries Russian engine...the problem is the same its about cost. Paf have no funds, you guys have been talking abt buying j10. For 7 years in this forum. It may also be that the paf have realised that their f16s are superior and China tech is not reliable or mature in war as the awsome f16. One thing for sure the chinease are ready to sell u guys have cold feet

 

[Luftwaffe]

I have heard and read that Pakistan is due to get 36 odd J-10s. Is this true?

Not True...

 

[ziaulislam]

Not True...

WE would only know whetehr its true or not in 2016

 

[2ndslip]

Well that sucks.

 

[king cobra]

Well that sucks.

and why ??? i know j-10 is good fighter...

 

[2ndslip]

all this discussion over a fighter that PAF shall not have is a tad silly.

 

[BATMAN]

WE would only know whetehr its true or not in 2016

Still not true happening!

Anti Pakistan forces control Pakistani politicians and they are advised to block funds for defence production.

Zardari delivered first blow and next regime will deliver second blow.... J-10 cannot be with Pakistani as long pro Indian forces are ruling Pakistan.

At the same time Iran, India and Afghanistan are being armed by overt covert means.