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Rampless Inlet

The J-10B features a chin-mounted diffuser supersonic inlet (DSI) air inlet. The J-10B features a chin-mounted diffuser supersonic inlet (DSI) air inlet. The traditional rectangle-shape air inlet on the J-10 requires a large moveable inlet ramp to generate a rearward leaning oblique shock wave to aid the inlet compression process. The traditional rectangle-shape air inlet on the J-10 requires a large moveable inlet ramp to generate a rearward leaning oblique shock wave to aid the inlet compression process. The ramp sits at an acute angle to deflect the intake air stream from the longitudinal direction. The ramp sits at an acute angle to the intake air Deflect stream from the longitudinal direction. The air inlets comprises many moving parts, which increases the aircraft's weight and radar reflections. The air Inlets comprises many moving parts, which increases the aircraft's weight and radar reflections.

The newly designed rampless inlet, first tested on the FC-1/JF-17 fighter design by Chengdu, employs a one-piece bump at the top of the inlet replacing the movable ramp. The newly designed rampless inlet, first tested on the FC-1/JF-17 fighter design by Chengdu, employs a one-piece bump at the top of the inlet replacing the movable ramp. This eliminates all moving parts on the inlet, lightening the overall weight and reducing the aircraft's radar signature. This eliminates all moving parts on the inlet, lightening the overall weight and reducing the aircraft's radar signature.
Electro-Optic Targeting System Electro-Optic Targeting System

The J-10B has been added with an electronic-optic targeting system (EOTS) commonly found on all fourth-generation Russian fighter aircraft such as Su-27 and MiG-29 . The J-10B has been added with an electronic-optic targeting system (EOTS) commonly found on all fourth-generation Russian fighter aircraft such as Su-27 and MiG-29 . Placed forward of the cockpit canopy to the right, the system comprises an infrared search and track (IRST) sensor and a laser rangefinder, which can detect enemy targets passively without requiring to turn on the fire-control radar, thus reducing the chance of the aircraft being detected. Placed forward of the cockpit canopy to the right, the system comprises an infrared search and track (IRST) sensor and a laser rangefinder, which can detect enemy targets passively without requiring to turn on the fire-control radar, thus reducing the chance of the aircraft being detected. The EOTS of the J-10B is likely based on a Russian design. The EOTS of the J-10B is likely based on a Russian design.

Tailfin ECM Pod

The upper edge of J-10B's tailfin is curved, in contrast to the straight-edged tailfin of the J-10 . The upper edge of J-10B's tailfin is curved, in contrast to the straight-edged tailfin of the J-10 . A large fairing is added to the tip of the tailfin to accommodate electronic warfare and countermeasures (EW/ECM) equipment. A large fairing is added to the tip of the tailfin to accommodate electronic warfare and countermeasures (EW / ECM) equipment.
ECM Antenna Array ECM Antenna Array

The J-10B has four black antenna arrays attached externally to the fuselage, a larger one on either side of the cockpit and a smaller one on either side of the rear fuselage near the engine nozzle. The J-10B has four black antenna arrays attached externally to the fuselage, a larger one on either side of the cockpit and a smaller one on either side of the rear fuselage near the engine nozzle. The specific purpose of these antennas is unknown but they are thought to be for electronic countermeasures purpose. The specific purpose of these antennas is unknown but they are thought to be for electronic countermeasures purpose.

Oct 2011, The People's Liberation Army Air Force has denied rumors of a Chinese fighter jet crashing during a recent test flight in Northwest China's Shaanxi Province, according to a post on the website of the flagship newspaper People's Daily.

"It is a completely fabricated report and a rumor," the post cited military sources as saying. "It is a completely fabricated report and a rumor," the post cited military sources as saying.

The rumor surfaced online after a microblog entry claimed that a J10B fighter jet recently crashed during a test flight in Shaanxi, causing the death of the pilot. The rumor surfaced online after a microblog entry and claimed that J10B fighter jet crashed recently during a test flight in Shaanxi, causing the death of the pilot.

According to the People's Daily website, military sources confirmed their knowledge of the false online report, which has been found to have been originally fabricated and posted by a Beijing-based website editor surnamed Pei and later spread inappropriately by other media. According to the People's Daily website, military sources confirmed their knowledge of the false report online, which has been found to have been fabricated and originally posted by a Beijing-based website editor surnamed Pei inappropriately and later spread by other media.

Recently, China announced the J-10B fighter plane.

The aircraft is the latest version of China's fourth generation fighter aircraft J-10, beling similar to FC-1, it used the clam-type inlet, abandoned the traditional rectangular inlet design, in the case of the normal work of the aircraft engine ensured, the aircraft was simplified design, reduced the moving parts of the inlet, in reducing the weight of the aircraft at the same time, also reduced the cross section of the aircraft's radar. The aircraft is the latest version of China's fourth generation fighter aircraft J-10, Belinga similar to FC-1, it used the clam-type inlet, abandoned the traditional rectangular inlet design, in the case of the normal work of the aircraft engine ensured , the aircraft was simplified design, reduced the moving parts of the inlet, in reducing the weight of the aircraft at the same time, also reduced the cross section of the aircraft's radar.

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I didn,t get this part brother bec i am not of engineering side i am a environmentalist so plz explain this to me what T/R modules are and how it is good for us ????????????

Transmit receive module (T/R module) is actually a building block of AESA radar, its a self-possessed package. Each T/R module has its own transmitter, receiver, processing power and a small antenna on top. Modules can work independently, can also work together to create a powerful radar. T/R modules can work in groups; some working together as "radar warning reciever", some working together as a jammer and remaining working as a radar.

More are the numbers of T/R modules better is the radar in its function.

Advantages of an AESA radar.

1- Greater detection range.
2- Can scan extremely fast thus large numbers of targets are scaned, so greater engagement range.
3- Very low radar signature.
4- Multiple target tracking
5- Radio jamming
6- Some percetantage of T/R modules failure will not cause loss of function.
7- Less repair becuase of MTBF more than 1000 hours

And list goes on....

P.S: I am not a professional so info can be wrong.... Experts please rectify if concept is faulty
 
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Rampless Inlet

The J-10B features a chin-mounted diffuser supersonic inlet (DSI) air inlet. The traditional rectangle-shape air inlet on the J-10 requires a large moveable inlet ramp to generate a rearward leaning oblique shock wave to aid the inlet compression process. The ramp sits at an acute angle to the intake air Deflect stream from the longitudinal direction. The air inlets comprises many moving parts, which increases the aircraft's weight and radar reflections.
The newly designed rampless inlet, first tested on the FC-1/JF-17 fighter design by Chengdu, employs a one-piece bump at the top of the inlet replacing the movable ramp. This eliminates all moving parts on the inlet, lightening the overall weight and reducing the aircraft's radar signature.
Electro-Optic Targeting System Electro-Optic Targeting System

The J-10B has been added with an electronic-optic targeting system (EOTS) commonly found on all fourth-generation Russian fighter aircraft such as Su-27 and MiG-29 . Placed forward of the cockpit canopy to the right, the system comprises an infrared search and track (IRST) sensor and a laser rangefinder, which can detect enemy targets passively without requiring to turn on the fire-control radar, thus reducing the chance of the aircraft being detected. The EOTS of the J-10B is likely based on a Russian design.

Tailfin ECM Pod

The upper edge of J-10B's tailfin is curved, in contrast to the straight-edged tailfin of the J-10 . A large fairing is added to the tip of the tailfin to accommodate electronic warfare and countermeasures (EW / ECM) equipment.
ECM Antenna Array ECM Antenna Array

The J-10B has four black antenna arrays attached externally to the fuselage, a larger one on either side of the cockpit and a smaller one on either side of the rear fuselage near the engine nozzle. The specific purpose of these antennas is unknown but they are thought to be for electronic countermeasures purpose.

Oct 2011, The People's Liberation Army Air Force has denied rumors of a Chinese fighter jet crashing during a recent test flight in Northwest China's Shaanxi Province, according to a post on the website of the flagship newspaper People's Daily.

"It is a completely fabricated report and a rumor," the post cited military sources as saying. "It is a completely fabricated report and a rumor," the post cited military sources as saying.

The rumor surfaced online after a microblog entry claimed that a J10B fighter jet recently crashed during a test flight in Shaanxi, causing the death of the pilot.
. According to the People's Daily website, military sources confirmed their knowledge of the false report online, which has been found to have been fabricated and originally posted by a Beijing-based website editor surnamed Pei inappropriately and later spread by other media.

Recently, China announced the J-10B fighter plane.

The aircraft is the latest version of China's fourth generation fighter aircraft J-10, beling similar to FC-1, it used the clam-type inlet, abandoned the traditional rectangular inlet design, in the case of the normal work of the aircraft engine ensured, the aircraft was simplified design, reduced the moving parts of the inlet, in reducing the weight of the aircraft at the same time, also reduced the cross section of the aircraft's radar. The aircraft is the latest version of China's fourth generation fighter aircraft J-10, Belinga similar to FC-1, it used the clam-type inlet, abandoned the traditional rectangular inlet design, in the case of the normal work of the aircraft engine ensured , the aircraft was simplified design, reduced the moving parts of the inlet, in reducing the weight of the aircraft at the same time, also reduced the cross section of the aircraft's radar.

Sorry Antibody.
The duplicated sentences were doing my head in so I took the liberty of correcting them and reposting the post
 
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Transmit receive module (T/R module) is actually a building block of AESA radar, its a self-possessed package. Each T/R module has its own transmitter, receiver, processing power and a small antenna on top. Modules can work independently, can also work together to create a powerful radar. T/R modules can work in groups; some working together as "radar warning reciever", some working together as a jammer and remaining working as a radar.

More are the numbers of T/R modules better is the radar in its function.

Advantages of an AESA radar.

1- Greater detection range.
2- Can scan extremely fast thus large numbers of targets are scaned, so greater engagement range.
3- Very low radar signature.
4- Multiple target tracking
5- Radio jamming
6- Some percetantage of T/R modules failure will not cause loss of function.
7- Less repair becuase of MTBF more than 1000 hours

And list goes on....

P.S: I am not a professional so info can be wrong.... Experts please rectify if concept is faulty

1- Greater detection range. (not necessarily, depends upon how do you describe detection)
2- Can scan extremely fast thus large numbers of targets are scaned, so greater engagement range. (Greater engagement capability since it can correctly track a large number of aircrafts thus can transmit their more precise coordinates to the missile(s) during mid course homing
3- Very low radar signature. (Its rather probability of intercept i.e. the probability that the enemy RWR will be able to detect your radar signals)
4- Multiple target tracking (Correct)
5- Radio jamming (correct!, since it can emitt massive energy through radar, thus effectively radar itself can be used as a Jamming device)
6- Some percetantage of T/R modules failure will not cause loss of function. (Correct!)
7- Less repair becuase of MTBF more than 1000 hours. (Correct! The initial cost of installment is high though)
 
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is fc-20 base on j-10b or j-10a

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is fc-20 base on j-10b or j-10a

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Please go through the previous posts
as ur question goes probably the best answer would be
"even J-10B is based on J-10A"..LOL!
so as long as it can serve as a higher end aircraft for PAF..there is nothing to worry about..
 
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Any offical confirmation on when these FC20 will arrive in PAF and also how many.
 
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previous rumours/announcements suggest they will be here by 2014. 36 of them.
i dont know how authentic are they though...
that was the last known delivery date. it will definately be later.
 
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previous rumours/announcements suggest they will be here by 2014. 36 of them.
i dont know how authentic are they though...
Thats has been quite confusing given China has officially offered Pakistan 1 squadron of J-10Bs, I think the earlier J-10 deal for 36 may have been dropped.....but its just my speculation
 
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