Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[khurasaan1]

I HAVE A QUESTION
WHEN THE DILIVERY OF THESE J10BS STARTS

the delivery will start this years end....like 4-5 aircrafts we will get at the years end....Insha-Allah...........
according to some Chinese resource in another forum......

 

[S.M.R]

Its real beauty....

 

[pmukherjee]

Delta wings with canards. Looks very mean. Congrats Pakistan.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Did anyone notice the CFTs on the plane

After Huzhigeng made statements about J-10A other threads! (http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-...hin-cac-j-10b-j-20-also-pakistan-related.html)

China to give squadron of J10-B fighters to Pakistan
July 30, 2011


ISLAMABAD: Taking bilateral defence relations to a new high,China will give Pakistan a squadron of the advanced J-10B fighter aircraft, a media report said.

The offer was made by senior Chinese military leaders to visiting Pakistan Army's Chief of General Staff, Lt. Gen.Waheed Arshad, the Urdu daily Jang reported on Saturday, quoting defence sources.

The J-10B fighters are equipped with the latest weapons and Pakistan will be the first country, after China, to have these advanced aircraft, it said.

During his visit, Lt.Gen.Arshad was assured that the defence relationship between the two countries will reach new heights and China's efforts for the safety and security of Pakistan will be never-ending.

During his visit, Waheed called on General Ma Xiaotian, deputy chief of general staff of People's Liberation Army and other officials including Lt. General Ren Haiquan, the vice president of the National Defence University.

This beast- J-10B (IRST, DSI, bigger size, deep nose, HUD, Euro canards, AESA, more capables)



More officials credible news than gossip.

Did Anyone notice the CFTs on the plane

 

[Imran Khan]

the delivery will start this years end....like 4-5 aircrafts we will get at the years end....Insha-Allah...........
according to some Chinese resource in another forum......

that will be really first time in history of PAF when we got 2 types of front line fighters in a year block-52 and j-10 great .

 

[VelocuR]

that will be really first time in history of PAF when we got 2 types of front line fighters in a year block-52 and j-10 great .

J-10B = F-16 BLOCK 60

It is very higher than our current F-16 Blk 52. J-10A is like Block 30.

Impatient to see it in PAF colors this yearr!

 

[Imran Khan]

J-10B = F-16 BLOCK 60

It is very higher than our current F-16 Blk 52. J-10A is like Block 30.

Impatient to see it in PAF colors this yearr!

stay on one yaar its 60 or 30 lolz

 

[Manticore]

Fighters such as F-7,JF-17,A-5,etc are always much more beautiful in PAF colours.
I don't know why, but chinese engineers are doing really badly in painting.
Can't wait to see J-10 in PAF colours, since not untill then we will not know how beautiful they can be.

here you go , bro !

more here
http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...p-experts-jf-17-wallpapers-9.html#post1984797

 

[Manticore]

i just uploaded it!

 

[Jungibaaz]

J-10B = F-16 BLOCK 60

It is very higher than our current F-16 Blk 52. J-10A is like Block 30.

Impatient to see it in PAF colors this yearr!

J-10A = block 30!? no way dude!
J-10A is very potent and much underestimated, all the hype of J10B has led to us forgetting it's true capability, remember that it beat the flankers on many occasions, also there is a difference between J-10 and J-10A(upgraded version).

 

[abaseen99]

Standard AA armament layout, PL8+PL11

 

[VelocuR]

J-10A = block 30!? no way dude!
J-10A is very potent and much underestimated, all the hype of J10B has led to us forgetting it's true capability, remember that it beat the flankers on many occasions, also there is a difference between J-10 and J-10A(upgraded version).

Please give me source of flankers beaten by J-10A in many occasions, do you mean someone from inexperienced pilots's Su-30MKI Vietnamese, that's very low bad degrading planes from Russia. Yes, good six times locked by J10A. Not only this, J-10A's DSI (square sharp) not great design in air intake. J10B will have much smaller RCS than current inventories including Su-30MKK. My understanding is it is approximately block 30-40. That's great compared to first F-16s A Blk 15.

Someone asked how J10A beat Flankers many times.

There is enough proof to the argument that PLAAF has test and pitted its J-10A Dragons against its Su-30MKK Flankers. The results have been very encouraging for both the People's Liberation Army Air Force and Pakistan Air Force. For Pakistan Air Force in particular because they're in the process of acquiring the J-10Bs which are an advance version of J-10A Dragons. Also, it was recently reported that Pakistan Air Force is now conducting a Joint-Excersize with the People's Liberation Army Air Force.

There is no relevance in pitting Pakistan Air Force Vipers against Flankers, simply because it would constitute as a valid strategic move. Even in actual war, Pakistan Air Force would be expected to use F-16s only for defending its own Air Space, guarding AEWs, IFRs and protecting our Nuclear Installations. Armed with the latest avionics and BVR Missiles, the Vipers would prove an ideal weapons system for enemy 'Air Denial' over its Air Space. Maintening 'Air Dominance' over home territory is vital to the outcome of any future war Pakistan might get pulled into. The J-10B/FC-20 would be exclusively used for COA Ops, providing cover for our Strike Groups into enemy territory.

It is understood that J-10B of China is designated by Pakistan Air Force as FC-20. A similar sort of designation is found with the Sino-Pak fighter, which is known as FC-1 in China and JF-17 Thunder in Pakistan

ack when J-10 first came out, there were a lot of skepticism about its capabilities and deployment status. Even though the first J-10 regiment achieved operational status by 2004, many people questioned its status until it was officially declassified in late 2006. At the same time, I read many reports about its successes in exercises against different flanker variants. Most people were rightfully skeptical toward such reports. As time went on, it became more and more obvious that J-10 was taken over the reign as the backbone of PLAAF from flankers. Even now, we still often read reports about J-10s crushing flankers and J-8s in different training exercises. Even with all of its successes, the J-10 program still has experienced some stumbles along the way. I think most people would agree that propulsion is the biggest bottleneck for J-10. Due to lack of available domestic options and the Western arms embargo, China was forced to select AL-31FN as the powerplant. Details

Prices: the J-10B's cost approximately 40 million dollars, the J-10A estimated around 27 million dollars.

Note: PAF trains with PLAAF SU-30 fighters (not publicly by taking F-16s over to China). Also Chinese fighter train with PAF F-16s (to address Taiwan!).

 

[houshanghai]

Please give me source of flankers beaten by J-10A in many occasions, do you mean someone from inexperienced pilots's Su-30MKI Vietnamese, that's very low bad degrading planes from Russia. Yes, good six times locked by J10A. Not only this, J-10A's DSI (square sharp) not great design in air intake. J10B will have much smaller RCS than current inventories including Su-30MKK. My understanding is it is approximately block 30-40. That's great compared to first F-16s A Blk 15.

Someone asked how J10A beat Flankers many times.




Prices: the J-10B's cost approximately 40 million dollars, the J-10A estimated around 27 million dollars.

Note: PAF trains with PLAAF SU-30 fighters (not publicly by taking F-16s over to China). Also Chinese fighter train with PAF F-16s (to address Taiwan!).

Not only PLAAF j10a defeated VAF SU30MK2 recently . but also PLAAF J10a defeated J11 in the air fighting exercise and the result is j10a 13:1 defeat at j11.
j10 defeat j11 videos

http://static.youku.com/v1.0.0166/v...MTgtai0xMC1mYy0yMC1tcmNhLTI0OS5odG1s&showAd=0

 

[Cool_Soldier]

All available news sources at the moment are mentioning PAF is Acquiring J10B.There are three version up to now J10, Second J10A, Third J10B.
Hopefully, we are in process of getting J10B.But Question is how long it will take to induct first Squadron of J10B..?

 

[abaseen99]

More Russian Engines for China’s J-10 Fighter
By: David Donald
July 18, 2011
Military Aircraft, Military Engines

The AL-31FN is based on the standard Su-27 engine but is reconfigured to suit it to single-engine applications. (Photo: NPO Saturn)

China has signed a fifth contract with Russia’s Rosoboronexport for the supply of Saturn AL-31FN military turbofan engines from the MMPP Salyut factory to power the Chengdu J-10 multi-role fighter, according to reports from Moscow.
The reports say the $500 million contract covers 123 engines for delivery by 2013, with the first 13 expected before the end of this year. This would take known Chinese procurement of the AL31FN to 399, plus an unspecified number provided in an initial batch for prototypes and pre-production aircraft. Such numbers are in line with analysis concerning expected Chinese procurement of the J-10.
Based on the standard AL-31F used to power versions of the Su-27 Flanker, the FN was redesigned by MMPP Salyut with its gearbox and accessories relocated to underneath the engine. Salyut has offered a number of more powerful versions to China, although it appears that the engines supplied to China so far have been to a common standard.
This new order for the AL-31FN has inevitably raised speculation concerning China’s indigenous Shenyang Liming WS-10A Taihang engine developed by the 606 Institute. That engine was originally intended for installation in the J-10 at some point. It has been suggested that the WS-10A, while it has been flying for some time in the Shenyang J-11B and J-15 unlicensed Flanker derivatives, might not be deemed reliable enough for a single-engine application.
It is also plausible that the Shenyang Aero Engine Works does not have the capacity to satisfy the demands of the J-10 line, which is in full-rate production, or simply that the Chinese are content with the Russian powerplant and have no desire to change More Russian Engines for China