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Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

36 J10As to be used for training and platform integration would hardly be a bad thing! It'll give our pilots a bit of downtime with the 'Dragon', and a large mixed J10 A and J10 B fleet, would be a force to be seriously reckoned with. If this news is true, then I wonder if PAF might be dropping the rumoured used F-16 negotiations.... shifting to a new upper tier 'go-to' aircraft altogether. :pakistan: :china:
 
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I guess this shoots down the brilliant idea that Pakistan, a nation who cannot design a J7 much less a j10, will have more advanced J10s than China, who created the damn thing. The days of Pakistan wielding slightly superior avionics over Chinese domestic versions are long gone. When will Pakistanis understand this?

Yet Pakistanis will still claim the JC20 will be superior to any J10a/b China possesses. This is called delusional thinking.

Both J-10B and JF-17 Block II will be using 5th gen elements, If my knowledge serves me correctly, PAF will be getting JF--17 Block II soon.
How could you not know this and still post what you just posted?

This is what I call ignorance.
 
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What will happen to J-10s which we get after J-10Bs become available to us? Also there was a rumor that J-10Bs will come with TOT and if that is the case, why cannot we set-up a parallel production line in Pakistan to serve our requirements and PLAAF will keep producing J-10B to meet its own?

Because the J10 is a Chinese designed and produced aircraft.

What is this "rumor" of TOT? Are you sure that is not just fanboy's dreams?
 
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Because the J10 is a Chinese designed and produced aircraft.

What is this "rumor" of TOT? Are you sure that is not just fanboy's dreams?

yes we know that its chines production when we claim its ours? they have every right to secure it refuse us tech or get before us .

abut TOT dude you need to learn some more things . for what new plants and land ?

PAF Aeronautical Complex near Nawabshah: 571 acres of land documents handed over

PAF Aeronautical Complex near Nawabshah: 571 acres of land documents handed over to AVM Arshad
RECORDER REPORT
HYDERABAD (October 21, 2010) : Sindh Chief Secretary Ghulam Ali Pasha on Wednesday handed over the legal documents of 571acres of land to Air Vice Martial Arshad Qudoos for establishment of PAF Aeronautical Complex near Nawabshah in a simple ceremony held at Darbar Hall, Nawabshah City.

Information Secretary Mumtaz Ali Shah, Secretary Education Ilmuddin Bullo, Secretary Forest Mushtaque Ahmed Memon, DCO Nawabshah Jamal Mustafa, officers from Pakistan Air force and district government were present in the ceremony. The Chief Secretary said that the land was being provided to PAF for enhancement and establishment of PAF Aeronautical Complex here at Nawabshah to provide modern skills and job opportunities to the local people. He said that this project would have capacity to absorb 4,000 to 5,000 youths of the district and also to provide technical opportunities to many more, enabling them to get jobs at other sister organisations as well.

He said that efforts were being made to complete this project within six to twelve months. He said that the government has acquired the land, and compensation to owners of the land was in progress and hopefully it would be completed within a month. He said that this project would not only be fruitful for the people of district of Benazirabad but also for the people of other districts as well.

Later talking to the media, Ghulam Ali said that the land had been acquired transparently and on market rate under the Land Acquisition Rules of the Government. He said that 7.3 million people, 1,80,000 cattle and standing crops on 2.4 million acres land were affected, damaged, and destroyed due to flood. He said that the government was actively engaged in reconstruction and rehabilitation activities with its own resources and also looking for foreign aid in this regard. He said that in this activity the foreign friends of Pakistan has raised question that "what we are contributing to generate the fund" in this regard.

He said that this was a genuine question and as such the government has decided to impose onetime flood tax on cotton, sugarcane production and big houses in the province. The Chief Secretary added that the areas under flood water would be exempted from this tax. He said that besides it has also been decided to save some amounts from own resources as such the Annual Development Budget was being re-prioritised, and added that some development schemes have to face 50 percent deduction of the allocation.

About encroachments on the land of katcha areas, the Chief Secretary said that the present government is very much serious to eliminate such previous practice. He said that now the legislation has been made in the Assembly and law has been amended in which the encroachment on the state land has been converted into heinous crime. He said that in order to implement this law the Anti Encroachment Force has been established with the support of its 4 stations in the province. He said that not only this but two courts one for tribunal and one trial court were being established.

He said that tribunal would be headed by a retired judge of High Court who decides whether the person under investigation/allegation has occupied state land illegally or not. He said that in case he was found involved in allegation his case would be submitted to the trial court for prosecution/litigation by the tribunal. He said that the trial court would be headed by sitting Sessions Judge.

He said that henceforth land lease in katcha areas would not be given to any one but would be given to the landless farmers of the areas on the basis of proprietary rights under the revise policy of present government. He said that strict vigilance was being done on the river bed and forest land and no one would be allowed to build his private embankments, occupy forest land for his interest. He said that under the amended law whosoever encroached state land or built private bund would have to face the conviction of 10 years imprisonment.

About planning to avoid flood devastation in future, he said that indigenous engineers, experts and foreign consultant firms have been engaged to devise a system and foolproof mechanism to meet the flood challenges in future. He said that a Chinese firm has been engaged for conducting survey in this regard. He said that government has planned to increase the discharge capacity of Sukkur Barrage from 9 to 20 lac cusecs. Similarly the capacity of other barrages would also be increased. He said that in addition to that re-strengthening of embankments of Indus

River, canals and Regulatory System of Irrigation department has also been included in future planning. The Chief Secretary said that the Sindh government was planning de-watering the areas still under flood water, and efforts were being made to complete this task before the cultivation of Rabi crops.

Business and Economy - PAF Aeronautical Complex near Nawabshah: 571 acres of land documents handed over to AVM Arshad
 
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I guess this shoots down the brilliant idea that Pakistan, a nation who cannot design a J7 much less a j10, will have more advanced J10s than China, who created the damn thing. The days of Pakistan wielding slightly superior avionics over Chinese domestic versions are long gone. When will Pakistanis understand this?

Yet Pakistanis will still claim the JC20 will be superior to any J10a/b China possesses. This is called delusional thinking.

I concur, with $3 trill in reserves China isn't Russia which needs hard currency in its military exports, all mil exports are more of a political tool than anything else. The plants are at max capacity fulfilling orders for domestic, they don't need more work for the next decade or more.

I always believed these guys were getting the J10-A, which the PRC heavily promoted for export with all the recent flight demos for foreign dignitaries , Serbs, arabs, S Americans etc.

The J10-B will probably be exported ONLY when its replacement will be near production possibly a single engine cheap 5th gen slightly inferior to F-35 or when all domestic production is satisfied.

Pakistan getting the J10B before the PLAAF/N is as delusional as the fiction of JF-17 with AESA and internal weapons bay.

Who actually thinks China will waste considerable sums of resources and funds to miniaturize an Aesa radar on the small nose of a cheap Mig 21 replacement with internal weapons bay and other stealth features?
It makes no logical or financial sense.

As for the Pakistan getting the J-20, another pipe dream.
 
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So what? What does that article have to do with a J10 production line? It's a fanboy dream not serious idea.

then USA should happy why you are boiling and flaming here? its fan boy or my son's dream whats your problem ?we have already a production line ongoing here dude why should we worry for wait few more years ? :tdown:
 
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Dreams are fine. To dream of a strong and vibrant Pakistan is fine.

To dream of a J10 production line is fine.

But do you know what's the difference between dream and reality?

then I told you specifically that China are developing a single-engine (ws15) real 5 gen fighter for PAF.cac have already had a lot of design programmes( conventional and canard....)about the j2x now . These design programmes of j2x are just waiting for PAF to select from.
also this inf came from what huzigeng and pupu said.so i am afraid you guy are not easier to believe this infs
 
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Dreams are fine. To dream of a strong and vibrant Pakistan is fine.

To dream of a J10 production line is fine.

But do you know what's the difference between dream and reality?

we was dreaming for nukes we got it
we was dreaming for missiles we got them
we was dreaming for block-52 we got it
we was dreaming for jf-17 we build it with co china
we was dreaming for bvrs we got them
we was dreaming for ALCM we got it
Every success story starts with big dreams.
 
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