Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

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sorry i dont know how to post multiple pic in one post...ne1 up for help plz

 

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so far i couldnt find any pic of j-10 with refueling probe

 

[siegecrossbow]

sorry i dont know how to post multiple pic in one post...ne1 up for help plz

You just post links to multiple pictures in one post. Did you hotlink them?

 

[Donatello]

Is there any other news of FC-20? Like the status....etc.

Shrouded in secrecy for so long....better be cooking something good.

 

[xuwei]

 

[SBD-3]

hay siegecrossbow, i need your help on this bro
????-????-J-10B????

 

[Jungibaaz]

hay siegecrossbow, i need your help on this bro
????-????-J-10B????

here's what is says bro...


Performance Analysis of J-10B

J-10B test drive the latest pictures of the gray paint is out. J-10B should have several states, we now see is one of them. This type may be related with the export model of Pakistan, but it is our J-10B.


One. Significant change

J-10B looks the most obvious change is the inlet to DSI ("clam" type) (no inlet boundary layer separated Road) inlet.

With the original dual shock system adjustable inlet than 3, DSI can play to reduce weight, increase stealth performance, increase intake efficiency and reduce costs, increase reliability and so on. As a type all airspace of the air fighter, J-10 has a relatively high speed at height requirements, for the use of a complex wave system of binary 3 adjustable inlet, it has a ratio of SU-27, F- 16 high-altitude high-speed capability better, which is the J-10 has just made public the allegation that he was one of the reasons 3.5 generation fighter. But such large weight of the inlet structure; order to strengthen the structure of the additional six ribs on the destructive effects of stealth also greatly criticized by unscrupulous people, although the 3rd generation, 3.5 generation aircraft to strengthen tendons are common. Lighter than conventional inlet DSI intake, compared to the original inlet, greatly reduced structural weight. J-10 SU-27 has good than a lot of mobility, the only regret is not big enough engine thrust as the reasons, the thrust-weight ratio, stability has been the subject of suspicion hovering ability. DSI will undoubtedly increase the adoption of J-10B thrust-weight ratio, stability, performance, and the whole machine circled mobility plays a significant role. Plus other benefits, DSI performance of J-10B obvious effect. DSI as a 4-generation technology, the FC-1 had just appeared on the altar in the army caused a huge stir in the J-10B is to be applied widely expected.

J-10B Another obvious change is the nose radome. The radome is the junction with the head tilted backwards slash, it is learned that that it is equipped with AESA (active phased array radar.)

J-10 is the original equipment, flat-panel slot array radar 1473, are 3-generation technology; AESA is the 4th generation technology. AESA longer detection range, higher accuracy, reflecting the faster, more powerful processing and more objective, more reliable; with more updated using function; use some technology, stealth stronger. AESA use of aircraft radar in terms of the Chinese and the European stand on the same starting line. Under the photos show, J-10B radar is smaller in diameter than the original, which may be due to the use of AESA, it do not then the diameter of the original so much. Smaller diameter reduces wind resistance head, help to improve the flight speed. Another change is the J-10B from the conical head into a flat circle, in order to play in front of the inlet air into the pre-compression. Head slightly down, to improve vision.
Nose droop angle of attack increased, improving maneuverability.

Photos from the front view, J-10B HUD diffraction facelift, the installation of the IRST (photoelectric detection system.)

Diffraction HUD, also known as wide-angle holographic HUD. Compared with the refraction of HUD and its larger field of view (in favor of weapons targeting and night flying), location perspective rate, a higher reflectivity characters.

Optical passive detection technology is the trend of the early 21st century, whether the Air Force or the Navy also. Because passive detection can avoid radar and exposed to the whereabouts of their launch to avoid arouse his suspicions. The early 21st century not only the infrared detection device to be able to ascertain the location, but also to thermal imaging, in addition to increasing the performance of enemy detection precision, increased accuracy of infrared missiles, fighter planes have also made an unexpected self-defense capabilities - air to air interceptor missile. In fact the optical detection device said to be the trend of the early 21st century is very sorry his friend north - Russia - as early as the 1980s, SU-27 and MiG-29, the photoelectric detector has become the necessary equipment, the West until the new generation of fighters (the fourth generation of the West) came into use, one hand may be the former East Germany after the reunification of Germany, MiG-29 to bring the European countries so that attention to the impact of the technology. It is said that the installation of this type of IRST "can track stealth aircraft at 60KM, 30KM to 50KM distance to identify the enemy has to show enemy formation, the number of enemy statistics, to provide guidance on the ability of the missile"; if the allegations are true , that is the world's advanced level.

It can be seen from the photos, J-10B may use a composite rack.

Composite rack mount with a mount point in the same capacity of more than pieces of weapons, can significantly increase the number of weapons mounted on the ground attack role is very big capabilities. J-10 as an air-superiority fighter, although it has a strong potential for ground attack, but before the performance is not obvious. J-10B's use of composite pylons that its formal conversion to multi-purpose fighter.

It is reported that J-10B machine increases the fuel tank, increasing the wing area, there are claims that an increase of 4%.

J-10B is the tail of another significant change in the installation of the electronic module. This shows that the greatly enhanced its electronic warfare capability.

The other is the horizontal tail cutting tip, airspeed control cancellation changed. F-10B cut tail tip, ventral fin cutting tip, useful to improve the aircraft's high-speed performance. Not much to do here reviewed.

Had always been questioned J-10B "DSI intake," the change, fearing it will affect the J-10B high-speed performance, it seems that this is due to ignorance and excess. J-10B's "DSI inlet" to the design point on the 2.0MH, canard fly-in the 4th generation system an excellent balance of high / low-speed performance. Actual flight test results show that, "J-10B high-altitude high-speed better than the J-10A, mobility and better quality", which in the whole flight envelope (0 ~ 2.3MH) all stages have better acceleration performance and stable hovering performance improvement is gratifying.


II. Stealth Performance

Alleged use of integrated stealth technology, J-10B radar reflection area ratio of J-10A reduce an order of magnitude. In this case, the stealth performance and double the wind (two types of Europe's most advanced fighter) is similar to radar reflection area of less than 1.


III. Avionics and weapons systems

Although the J-10B enhance the aerodynamic performance of the other people surprises, but some people say, J-10B real highlight is its avionics and weapons upgrade.

J-10B, a fourth generation fighter avionics test machine, the avionics system is quite good. Someone said: "In fact, even on the AESA 10B is not worth very excited - the other avionics and pace of change is much more than a plane can be filled with AESA. 10B avionics architecture and performance of a species degree is the reference Po F-22 columns of the standards, such as an independent flight control, fire control, etc. replaced by a new generation of integrated CIP (general information processor). SU-35 is closer to the Western standards, the natural can be clearly compared. But now the situation seems, SU-35 is three generations of Western standards of late-type level. "

Aircraft performance based on evaluation of the now popular formula:

Overall performance = velocity × mobility (square) × Avionics (cubic) × Weapon (four square)

J-10B overall avionics upgrade (on behalf of the nearly 3.5 to nearly 4 generations), will bring his quality to enhance combat capability.

Well weapons systems, in addition to precision strikes all kinds of ammunition, four generations in the remote, short-range air to air missiles should be the same subject. Four generations of fighting to be heard before the missile to equip the rumors.


IV. Future Development

Someone Language: In fact, the modified J10 will always exist, one is to increase (re-4 (5) service before) the needs of the Air Force combat strength, the second is to share part of the re-4 (5) Development of the risk of re-4 (5 ) is an independent research funding, J10 of the modification is independent of funding, J10 of the modification to the 4th generation (5) approximation, sharing part of the re-4 (5) the risks of scientific research and experiment on the re-4 (5) development of play multiplier effect, the ultimate vest will spend an improved version of the standard 4-generation (5) in the single machine supporting avionics.


Five. Conclusion

With the J-10B, we are no longer the envy of double wind. In addition to the engine. . .

Is uncertain whether the current use of the J-10B "flying fire push" integration technology, but the J-10B will be used.

J-10B is not clear now the engine experimental aircraft equipment or the original AL-31FN, may be improved with a greater thrust. J-10B is scheduled standard configuration should be "too much to change the line" engine, thrust 142 KN. If the J-10B is equipped with more thrust, "so the line change." . .

Unfortunately, even the "Taihang", now also still problematic. "Taihang change" and to drag the progress of the.

Of course, we You Liangshou preparation, the Russian AL-31FN M1, or said that we in Russia, the chickens lay eggs 99M2, can meet the requirements. However, we continue to scale the engine but also on imports of you. . .

We can only hope the dawn companies want them to learn, practical and strict, the pace to catch up.

 

[SBD-3]

here's what is says bro...


Performance Analysis of J-10B

J-10B test drive the latest pictures of the gray paint is out. J-10B should have several states, we now see is one of them. This type may be related with the export model of Pakistan, but it is our J-10B.


One. Significant change

J-10B looks the most obvious change is the inlet to DSI ("clam" type) (no inlet boundary layer separated Road) inlet.

With the original dual shock system adjustable inlet than 3, DSI can play to reduce weight, increase stealth performance, increase intake efficiency and reduce costs, increase reliability and so on. As a type all airspace of the air fighter, J-10 has a relatively high speed at height requirements, for the use of a complex wave system of binary 3 adjustable inlet, it has a ratio of SU-27, F- 16 high-altitude high-speed capability better, which is the J-10 has just made public the allegation that he was one of the reasons 3.5 generation fighter. But such large weight of the inlet structure; order to strengthen the structure of the additional six ribs on the destructive effects of stealth also greatly criticized by unscrupulous people, although the 3rd generation, 3.5 generation aircraft to strengthen tendons are common. Lighter than conventional inlet DSI intake, compared to the original inlet, greatly reduced structural weight. J-10 SU-27 has good than a lot of mobility, the only regret is not big enough engine thrust as the reasons, the thrust-weight ratio, stability has been the subject of suspicion hovering ability. DSI will undoubtedly increase the adoption of J-10B thrust-weight ratio, stability, performance, and the whole machine circled mobility plays a significant role. Plus other benefits, DSI performance of J-10B obvious effect. DSI as a 4-generation technology, the FC-1 had just appeared on the altar in the army caused a huge stir in the J-10B is to be applied widely expected.

J-10B Another obvious change is the nose radome. The radome is the junction with the head tilted backwards slash, it is learned that that it is equipped with AESA (active phased array radar.)

J-10 is the original equipment, flat-panel slot array radar 1473, are 3-generation technology; AESA is the 4th generation technology. AESA longer detection range, higher accuracy, reflecting the faster, more powerful processing and more objective, more reliable; with more updated using function; use some technology, stealth stronger. AESA use of aircraft radar in terms of the Chinese and the European stand on the same starting line. Under the photos show, J-10B radar is smaller in diameter than the original, which may be due to the use of AESA, it do not then the diameter of the original so much. Smaller diameter reduces wind resistance head, help to improve the flight speed. Another change is the J-10B from the conical head into a flat circle, in order to play in front of the inlet air into the pre-compression. Head slightly down, to improve vision.
Nose droop angle of attack increased, improving maneuverability.

Photos from the front view, J-10B HUD diffraction facelift, the installation of the IRST (photoelectric detection system.)

Diffraction HUD, also known as wide-angle holographic HUD. Compared with the refraction of HUD and its larger field of view (in favor of weapons targeting and night flying), location perspective rate, a higher reflectivity characters.

Optical passive detection technology is the trend of the early 21st century, whether the Air Force or the Navy also. Because passive detection can avoid radar and exposed to the whereabouts of their launch to avoid arouse his suspicions. The early 21st century not only the infrared detection device to be able to ascertain the location, but also to thermal imaging, in addition to increasing the performance of enemy detection precision, increased accuracy of infrared missiles, fighter planes have also made an unexpected self-defense capabilities - air to air interceptor missile. In fact the optical detection device said to be the trend of the early 21st century is very sorry his friend north - Russia - as early as the 1980s, SU-27 and MiG-29, the photoelectric detector has become the necessary equipment, the West until the new generation of fighters (the fourth generation of the West) came into use, one hand may be the former East Germany after the reunification of Germany, MiG-29 to bring the European countries so that attention to the impact of the technology. It is said that the installation of this type of IRST "can track stealth aircraft at 60KM, 30KM to 50KM distance to identify the enemy has to show enemy formation, the number of enemy statistics, to provide guidance on the ability of the missile"; if the allegations are true , that is the world's advanced level.

It can be seen from the photos, J-10B may use a composite rack.

Composite rack mount with a mount point in the same capacity of more than pieces of weapons, can significantly increase the number of weapons mounted on the ground attack role is very big capabilities. J-10 as an air-superiority fighter, although it has a strong potential for ground attack, but before the performance is not obvious. J-10B's use of composite pylons that its formal conversion to multi-purpose fighter.

It is reported that J-10B machine increases the fuel tank, increasing the wing area, there are claims that an increase of 4%.

J-10B is the tail of another significant change in the installation of the electronic module. This shows that the greatly enhanced its electronic warfare capability.

The other is the horizontal tail cutting tip, airspeed control cancellation changed. F-10B cut tail tip, ventral fin cutting tip, useful to improve the aircraft's high-speed performance. Not much to do here reviewed.

Had always been questioned J-10B "DSI intake," the change, fearing it will affect the J-10B high-speed performance, it seems that this is due to ignorance and excess. J-10B's "DSI inlet" to the design point on the 2.0MH, canard fly-in the 4th generation system an excellent balance of high / low-speed performance. Actual flight test results show that, "J-10B high-altitude high-speed better than the J-10A, mobility and better quality", which in the whole flight envelope (0 ~ 2.3MH) all stages have better acceleration performance and stable hovering performance improvement is gratifying.


II. Stealth Performance

Alleged use of integrated stealth technology, J-10B radar reflection area ratio of J-10A reduce an order of magnitude. In this case, the stealth performance and double the wind (two types of Europe's most advanced fighter) is similar to radar reflection area of less than 1.


III. Avionics and weapons systems

Although the J-10B enhance the aerodynamic performance of the other people surprises, but some people say, J-10B real highlight is its avionics and weapons upgrade.

J-10B, a fourth generation fighter avionics test machine, the avionics system is quite good. Someone said: "In fact, even on the AESA 10B is not worth very excited - the other avionics and pace of change is much more than a plane can be filled with AESA. 10B avionics architecture and performance of a species degree is the reference Po F-22 columns of the standards, such as an independent flight control, fire control, etc. replaced by a new generation of integrated CIP (general information processor). SU-35 is closer to the Western standards, the natural can be clearly compared. But now the situation seems, SU-35 is three generations of Western standards of late-type level. "

Aircraft performance based on evaluation of the now popular formula:

Overall performance = velocity × mobility (square) × Avionics (cubic) × Weapon (four square)

J-10B overall avionics upgrade (on behalf of the nearly 3.5 to nearly 4 generations), will bring his quality to enhance combat capability.

Well weapons systems, in addition to precision strikes all kinds of ammunition, four generations in the remote, short-range air to air missiles should be the same subject. Four generations of fighting to be heard before the missile to equip the rumors.


IV. Future Development

Someone Language: In fact, the modified J10 will always exist, one is to increase (re-4 (5) service before) the needs of the Air Force combat strength, the second is to share part of the re-4 (5) Development of the risk of re-4 (5 ) is an independent research funding, J10 of the modification is independent of funding, J10 of the modification to the 4th generation (5) approximation, sharing part of the re-4 (5) the risks of scientific research and experiment on the re-4 (5) development of play multiplier effect, the ultimate vest will spend an improved version of the standard 4-generation (5) in the single machine supporting avionics.


Five. Conclusion

With the J-10B, we are no longer the envy of double wind. In addition to the engine. . .

Is uncertain whether the current use of the J-10B "flying fire push" integration technology, but the J-10B will be used.

J-10B is not clear now the engine experimental aircraft equipment or the original AL-31FN, may be improved with a greater thrust. J-10B is scheduled standard configuration should be "too much to change the line" engine, thrust 142 KN. If the J-10B is equipped with more thrust, "so the line change." . .

Unfortunately, even the "Taihang", now also still problematic. "Taihang change" and to drag the progress of the.

Of course, we You Liangshou preparation, the Russian AL-31FN M1, or said that we in Russia, the chickens lay eggs 99M2, can meet the requirements. However, we continue to scale the engine but also on imports of you. . .

We can only hope the dawn companies want them to learn, practical and strict, the pace to catch up.

but this is google translate....Siegecrossbow can translate it into a better one if he does

 

[conworldus]

Basically, the article saying that with J-10B you no longer need to be envy of the likes of Typhoon.

The only unsure thing is whether it will keep using the Russian engine of the improved version of WS10. The WS10 imrpoved has 142kn thrust, and should have resolved lot of quality issues of AL-31FN. (In China J-10 has crashed because of engine failure).

Once the engine issue is resolved the J-10B will be every bit as powerful as any of the multirole fighters in the world.

 

[Super Falcon]

J 10B is a best Multi Role Fighter Jet Avaialable in the world wth F 16 Fighting Falcon infact J 10 is more Agile in air than its other Compitattor F 16

 

[SBD-3]

J 10B is a best Multi Role Fighter Jet Avaialable in the world wth F 16 Fighting Falcon infact J 10 is more Agile in air than its other Compitattor F 16

partially incorrect, while the J-10B has better A2G than J-10A yet the development focus was on enhancing A2A so J-10B is more of a AS fighter not a true omnirole fighter like Rafael