Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[sab]

Russian fighters like Migs and Su-30MKI are being manufactured in India for decades with license from Russia. A sanction is not going to hurt that much any more.

 

[Patriot]

Guys Don't worry about our J10.Believe me your air force will be treated well over Pakistani Skies.Now stop making OT posts here.

 

[Donatello]

Russian fighters like Migs and Su-30MKI are being manufactured in India for decades with license from Russia. A sanction is not going to hurt that much any more.

Correction...

They are not been Manufactured but Assembled.


You may make one part or two, but still the Raw materials are coming from elsewhere including the so called high-strength steel for your new ACs.

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Guys Don't worry about our J10.Believe me your air force will be treated well over Pakistani Skies.Now stop making OT posts here.

Just like after Mumbai attack, threats from India of Surgical Strikes........

 

[siegecrossbow]

What about self-sufficiency? If you buy foreign planes/missiles you are entirely dependent upon them in times of war. What if Russia, for one reason or another, decided to sanction you?

True. India is capable of producing and assembly most of the Su-30 MKI. However is India capable of manufacturing the PESA radar and jet engines as well? Also keep in mind that the Su-30s are compatible with Russian munition only. China stopped ordering more MK2s to invest in the J-11Bs because of this.

 

[Quwa]

I think it's to early to say that MKI's are better than j-10b (fc-20).

IMO, if the j-10b gets a long range AESA radar, a modern EW site and IRST it would be close to a 4.5 gen fighter.

International Assessment and Strategy Center > Research > China’s Aviation Sector: Building Toward World Class Capabilities

Some reports also suggest that the J-10B is primarily intended to meet a requirement from Pakistan. These modifications point to the J-10 having evolved rapidly toward a 4+ generation level of capability.

 

[gowthamraj]

In a defensive role, a 100 odd F-16 Block 52+ and MLU can give MKIs a good run for their money.

Very True


F-16 is a battle proven with the record of 64-0.


With PAF pilots having decades of experience in it. It would be tuf call

 

[Donatello]

Very True


F-16 is a battle proven with the record of 64-0.


With PAF pilots having decades of experience in it. It would be tuf call

Well, as we have said, you cannot take paper details of aircraft and let those dictate the outcome. Even the best computer simulations are only accurate to a certain degree. As long as we have multiple aircraft and differently trained pilots, we are bound to have way more complex scenario than any one of us can point out.


Had both PAF and IAF been operating lets say MIG and F-16s, we could guess. But we have totally different aircraft.

Egyptians and Syrians didn't have bad equipment yet they were badly out run by Israelis.

Similarly, British were way superior in Falklands war yet the Argentine Air force and Navy fought till the last moment.

 

[rockstarIN]

Actually, it's the other way around - China is no longer buying MKK/MKK2 but developing J-10B and J-11B.

Yes, but J-11B is the copy of Su-27/SU-30 only. Air dominance fighter like MKK and they have already got 69 Su-27s, 100 mkk/mk2s and already build 172 J11 A/Bs, can't undermine the importance of air superiority fighter.

 

[rockstarIN]

Very True


F-16 is a battle proven with the record of 64-0.


With PAF pilots having decades of experience in it. It would be tuf call

Yes F-16 is a very proven fighter and Americans added new technology to it. But PAF received block 52 c/d planes recently, which are BVR capable. So it may take some time to master in BVR battle.

 

[marcos98]

i hope these stunners werent posted before /:

 

[rockstarIN]

Which jet is this?

 

[Luftwaffe]

posted before..
this jet is F10,000
This is J-10A please go through the thread.

 

[Manticore]

Chengdu J-10

Technical Report APA-TR-2007-0107

by Dr Carlo Kopp, SMAIAA, MIEEE, PEng
January, 2007
Updated August 2009
Updated August 2010

Chengdu J-10 Sinocanard

 

[Tajdar adil]

Can anyone tell me PAF to get that fighter.

 

[SomeGuy]

Yes, but J-11B is the copy of Su-27/SU-30 only.

Only the basic shape is copied.

Most other subsystems in J-11B, radar, avionics, materials, RCS etc is superior to MKK2.

Air dominance fighter like MKK and they have already got 69 Su-27s, 100 mkk/mk2s and already build 172 J11 A/Bs, can't undermine the importance of air superiority fighter.

I read somewhere that in PLAAF combat exercises, the basic J-10A was able to defeat Su-27 and MKK, so J-10A is good enough - some say that it's comparable to F-16C/D blk 52.

J-10B is more advanced and can certainly be used in air-to-air role.

It will also get latest Chinese tech because its being used as testbed for 5th gen technologies.

The only difference is that being a medium fighter it just lacks the range and payload of a heavyweight fighter.