Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[TaimiKhan]

but where is the irst on it ? is that give up in its latest prototype or it going to build in on its airframe . and thankes to timikhanfor the nice picture

IRST is on the right side of the cockpit, from this angle it can't be seen as this pic is taken from the left side, in coming days as more pics of this prototype surfaces, IRST will get cleared too.

 

[TaimiKhan]

that number indicates the 3rd prototype is in..........so the project is well underway...........I also agree that PAF would get WS-10A fitted ACs but to judge the reliability and maturity of WS-10A, a longer time is required

Well WS-10A is being tested / in use by Chinese for quiet sometime, they must have by now a pretty good idea of its defects and may have solved many and solving other problems in it. But the secrecy of Chinese weapons development programs is well known, so we can't be sure of the stage in which WS-10A is, but if PAF guys are giving the 2014-2015 time period of its delivery then hopefully by then it will be a mature enough engine.

3rd prototype means the program is well underway and the flight characteristics have been established or are being established through the first prototype as this 03 prototype is missing the pitot tube kind of thing on its nose, 2nd prototype would be for ground static testing purposes, may be we will see one or two prototypes more before the J-10 goes into initial production stage. It may happen by either middle of next year or by end of it.

 

[MZUBAIR]

@ Airforce Professionals

Kindly answer of this question please PAF go for J10 A or B ?

PAF will select J-10B

 

[SBD-3]

PAF will select J-10B

Most probably but nothing is clear until now about the block

 

[TOPGUN]

Do you guys think the fc-20's will be in the same grey dark schme as the f-16's or like the thunders ?

 

[TaimiKhan]

Do you guys think the fc-20's will be in the same grey dark schme as the f-16's or like the thunders ?

It will depend on the location of their deployment. If you look at other aircrafts of PAF, their colors are as per their area of deployment, camouflage purposes.

 

[SBD-3]

Do you guys think the fc-20's will be in the same grey dark schme as the f-16's or like the thunders ?

whatever it is but it certainly wont be yellowP

 

[fatman17]

11 November 2009

Pakistan may buy up to 36 Chinese J-10 fighter aircraft.


November 10: The UK’s Financial Times reports that Pakistan may buy up to 36 Chinese J-10 fighter aircraft in a deal worth $1.4bn.

It is believed that the J-10 version being considered by the Pakistan Air Force is the FC-20, an export version that would comply with Pakistani avionics requirements. It would be operational by 2015. The J-10 is regarded by the industry as a ‘fourth-generation’ fighter, similar in capability to the latest versions of the F-16 and Saab’s Gripen.

Pakistan has bought Chinese-built fighters in the past – it operates 100 Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAIC) F-7P ‘Airguards’, a licence-built version of the elderly MiG-21 Fishbed produced as recently as 2006, in three front-line squadrons as well as 26 Shenyang Aircraft Corporation FT-5/6s, based upon the even older MiG-17.

The Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) has recently teamed up with CAIC to produce the JF-17 ‘Thunder’ light fighter, the first examples being delivered to Pakistan in mid-March 2008. The first squadron, No. 26, is expected to stand-up in early 2010 and Pakistan may eventually buy up to 250.

AFM.

 

[unicorn148]

PAF will select J-10B

the j 10 b is still in development phase and it may take some years to become a complete fighter so initial FC20 will be based on j 10 a and may be in future it will be j 10 b

 

[BATMAN]

the j 10 b is still in development phase and it may take some years to become a complete fighter so initial FC20 will be based on j 10 a and may be in future it will be j 10 b

Are you talking about Pakistani order or in general about J-10?
And in your opinion, what is missing in dragon to become a complete fighter? what is missing?

 

[TaimiKhan]

the j 10 b is still in development phase and it may take some years to become a complete fighter so initial FC20 will be based on j 10 a and may be in future it will be j 10 b

PAF will be getting the J-10 in 2014-2015 time frame, 5 more years still to go and with 3rd prototype of J-10B in the air, hopefully we would be seeing a production variant next year, so if the production did start by next year or even by start of 2011, PAF would be getting the J-10B design as once it goes into production the earlier variant J-10A production will be stopped. So how things are moving we would be seeing J-10B design in PAF service.

 

[unicorn148]

no one can conform that it will be ready by 2011 and before that chinese air force have to induct that so first batch of pakistans may not be J10 b

 

[unicorn148]

Are you talking about Pakistani order or in general about J-10?
And in your opinion, what is missing in dragon to become a complete fighter? what is missing?

any plane to become a complete fighter it should be thoroughly tested the systems of J10 b are new so it will take time for the plane to start production

 

[TaimiKhan]

no one can conform that it will be ready by 2011 and before that chinese air force have to induct that so first batch of pakistans may not be J10 b

Yes no one can confirm, but by looking at the Chinese previous record of manufacturing aircraft, it can be safely said it will be in production in about 2 years at the max, as the design is not 100% new, its based on a design which is already flying and tested. Also its going to be about one year since this new design is in the air, so it has covered its 1 year of testing & evaluation. The surfacing of 3rd prototype means it has now entered a new stage of its testing, at the most we will be seeing one or 2 more prototypes before it gets into production.

And China is already inducted J-10A and J-10S variants as we speak, already may have crossed the 100 aircraft mark in PLAAF, the are also inducting the J-11 variants, JH-7As and other aircraft too, even talk of their 4th generation to take the sky is in circulation, so giving 36 aircrafts to Pakistan won't be much of a problem for them, they already have helped Pakistan a lot in the past also.

 

[TaimiKhan]

any plane to become a complete fighter it should be thoroughly tested the systems of J10 b are new so it will take time for the plane to start production

Which systems you think are going to be new ?? IRST ?? That is already working on their Su-27 / J-11 variants.

The major thing to be seen is the radar on it, as no news about it has been confirmed, rest of the systems are either old one on the earlier variants and the new ECM suit is also going to be tested if it has not been installed on any other aircraft.

Engine is yet in testing & evaluation and slow rate production and being tested on the J-11 variants.