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China Defense Blog: J-10B for Pakistan
This article confirms what we already know for some time the Pakistan Air Force is interested in J-10B instead of the standard J-10 variant currently in service with the PLAAF.
DATE:30/09/09
SOURCE:Flight International
China's AVIC steps up sales push for FC-1, J-10 fighters
By Siva Govindasamy
China's AVIC steps up sales push for FC-1, J-10 fighters
China plans to market the Chengdu FC-1/JF-17 and J-10 fighters aggressively as part of its plan to become a major player in the global aerospace industry.
"While AVIC's main job is to manufacture aircraft, the company also fulfils a national agenda by producing military aircraft for China's political allies around the world," says a source close to Chengdu's state-owned parent company. "There are also countries that would like to buy a good fighter, but not at the cost of a Western fighter.
"While China's military aircraft have been exported for many years, this is the first time that there is a concerted effort to properly market them and establish a support network," the source adds.
In the past few months, senior company officials have been identifying the military products that will be given the most attention for the export market. In the fighter segment, the JF-17 and the J-10 are the two most important aircraft, says the source.
"Given that the JF-17 has been in service in China and Pakistan for a number of years and is a mature programme, it is being given first priority," the source adds.
Islamabad, which helped to develop the JF-17, has committed to buying 150 aircraft produced by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex. This figure could rise to 300 aircraft to replace the country's air force fleets of Nanchang A-5s, Chengdu F-7s and Dassault Mirage III and Mirage Vs.
The JF-17 will be able to carry a variety of conventional and precision-guided bombs, and air-to-air and air-to-sea missiles from short- to beyond-visual-range. The type is already being marketed to countries in Africa, the Middle East, South America and South-East Asia.
"The J-10 is not ready for export yet, as AVIC is still finalising upgrades for the fighter," the source says. "But there has been interest from several countries."
AVIC is likely to begin exports of the new type - which entered Chinese air force service in early 2007 - after it has finished developing an upgraded J-10B version. Enhancements are to include a modified vertical stabiliser and ventral fins, redesigned engine inlet, a new radar and an infrared search and track sensor.
Pakistan is likely to be the first export customer, having begun negotiations to buy 36 aircraft several years ago. To be designated locally as FC-20s, deliveries are likely to begin from 2014-15.
Beijing could extend loans to purchasing countries and offer local assembly if there are sufficient orders, the source adds.
here are some recent pics of the J-10B
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3wZSwFvZz...s/aw6C2PDo4Oo/s1600/j10b-1254313327_79489.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3wZSwFvZz...k/CZSWtXI6Xz8/s1600/j10b-1254313327_48772.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3wZSwFvZz...c/kJFIBviFkMc/s1600/j10b-1254313327_32794.jpg
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Yes we can...The J-10 is NOT a fifth-generation fighter.as far as i understand from the discussion above we cannot say that J10 will eventually turn out to be a fifth generation plane but what can be said is that it surely is going to play a pivtol role in the development of a fifth generation by providing the chines aeronautical industry with a platform of there own where then can check there systems and can modifiy it to analyse various techniques. also the technical experties gained in thies project may well prove fruitfull!
I highly dough China will be able to produce entirely new AESA radar on its own capable as any other 4.5 generation MRCA without a product to work from.Now that looks like a big antenna and is going to be ab AESA. It must also put things in prospective why time line for J-10B in PAF is set around 2014-15.
I highly dough China will be able to produce entirely new AESA radar on its own capable as any other 4.5 generation MRCA without a product to work from.
I highly dough China will be able to produce entirely new AESA radar on its own capable as any other 4.5 generation MRCA without a product to work from.
that's the main key china can close the tech gap with the west in the shot period of time
guys i can promise you
in next ten years you will see less and less copy weapon made by china
the reason is innovation cost a lot more money than copy and improving.
from late 70s to last 90s we cut a lot our military budget to build our home town to do education to increase our GDP
and now we got the money and the technician to do innovation.
so thanks to deng xiao ping's reformation and opening policy
after 30 years we finally got the strength to play the game with the west.