Chattogram witnessing topmost development.

[Logam42]

Point of Order for @Bilal9 :

While it is good that you are not apathetic to corruption in your country, I would like to ask you to not slander other countries using a decade old video as 'proof' to your frankly fully unrelated claims.

I do not know how much Bangladesh has improved in a decade, but as an Indonesian I can state with confidence that my nation has. The question Indonesians ask is not "Is it getting better?" but rather "How much better is it?". Do not make false claims of other nations to make yourself feel better. That is rude and dishonest.

Let me show you how we have worked to improve our nation:

Spoiler: Indonesian Indicators

Indonesia has tackled corruption perceptions, made business easier, increased our global competitiveness, and has taken strides to diversify our economy, substantially decreasing our dependencies on minerals and agriculture.

BD on the other hand has stagnated with over the same period with the same old economic dependencies. Looking at other government and economic indicators doesn't change that verdict:

Spoiler: Bangladesh Indicators

The closest thing Bangladesh has managed to do is keep apace to Indonesia's improving competitiveness. By all rights Bangladesh should be improving faster due to starting from a lower score than us.

Look, I'm happy it seems that BD is finally getting its shit together, but please, making fake claims such as yours is both dishonest and unnecessary.

 

[Nike]

Point of Order for @Bilal9 :

While it is good that you are not apathetic to corruption in your country, I would like to ask you to not slander other countries using a decade old video as 'proof' to your frankly fully unrelated claims.

I do not know how much Bangladesh has improved in a decade, but as an Indonesian I can state with confidence that my nation has. The question Indonesians ask is not "Is it getting better?" but rather "How much better is it?". Do not make false claims of other nations to make yourself feel better. That is rude and dishonest.

Let me show you how we have worked to improve our nation:

Spoiler: Indonesian Indicators

Indonesia has tackled corruption perceptions, made business easier, increased our global competitiveness, and has taken strides to diversify our economy, substantially decreasing our dependencies on minerals and agriculture.

BD on the other hand has stagnated with over the same period with the same old economic dependencies. Looking at other government and economic indicators doesn't change that verdict:

Spoiler: Bangladesh Indicators

The closest thing Bangladesh has managed to do is keep apace to Indonesia's improving competitiveness. By all rights Bangladesh should be improving faster due to starting from a lower score than us.

Look, I'm happy it seems that BD is finally getting its shit together, but please, making fake claims such as yours is both dishonest and unnecessary.

He cant differentiate legal administration fee with full information and format and how you can paid it against unreported bribery practices

 

[Homo Sapiens]

First of all in India teen marriage rate is not 15% as the chart indicate. Second thing in Bangladesh many family prefer to marry their daughter if the find a suitable groom, for poverty, for securing them from eve teaser. That is the reason why Hasina government reduced minimum age to get married. This is a trend going on for some time and you can not change over night. When you are marrying at teenage years you are getting pregnant as we well. But if you look at India where minimum marriage age is 18 so officially less marriage is recorded, second how many young girls are molested, getting raped or becoming pregnant there are no record of it as in most cases family conceal these incidents and do abortions. Already there are report that there is a sharp increase of abortion among teens in India. So took that image as a grain of salt that the troll spamming everywhere and trying to correlate that with fertility rate of 2.1. He is a douchebag.

For cases of Bangladesh, TFR reduced more sharply than teenage pregnancy in the last 20 years.The ultimate factor that decide TFR is how many child a woman bear in her entire reproductive life irrespective of whether she bear that child in her Teenage(15-19y) or in advanced ages(30-45y). In Bangladesh, the mean age of 1st child birth is 18.5y for mother but in Italy, Spain and Japan it is 30.7y.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2256.html

In Bangladesh, due to prevalent conservative social custom, parent ususaly give marriage their daughter at early ages specially in rural areas and expect to bear child within 1st year of marriage.But after giving birth of 2 children most of the women stop and use contraceptive.But a woman is Italy or Spain, although enters sexual life early, they hold on child bearing until the age of 30 years.So if a Bangladeshi girl give birth 2 child at her 16 and 18 years and then continue contraception, she will be a teenage mother with TFR just 2.0. Similarly if a woman in Italy give birth 2 children in her 31 and 35 years, she will also have TFR 2.0.

Higher TRF do not always correspond to lower age of child birth.Take another example, Ireland has high TFR of 2.0 child per woman but also a very high mean age of 1st birth at 30.7 years. On the other hand, Ukrainian women give birth at early ages, their mean age of 1st child birth is just 24.9 years but TFR is also very low at 1.5 children per women. Now what will you say? This is the same thing happening in Bangladesh. Our fertility rate reduction is much rapid than lowering teenage pregnancy rate.

Since the ancient ages, Bengal was known for very early marriages, both among hindus and muslims.This early marriage tradition was much stronger in eastern part of sub continent than western part.This bad tradition will take more time to die out here than other places.But economic consideration, female employment and and a successful family planning program in Bangladesh ensure that overwhelming majority of women now give birth to just 1 to 3 child(average 2 child) albeit in earlier ages. But this child marriage phenomenon is declining quite rapidly in Bangladesh in recent years as female drop out rate from school is declining very fast and many rural families are now being lifted from very poor condition.
@UKBengali @Bilal9 @Ashik Mahmud @Centaur @asgur @bluesky @Cycle Macson @TopCat @Mage @Michael Corleone @Hasan89 @shourov323

 

[pr1v4t33r]

I've been to govt. offices in Jakarta where bribe amounts are printed and posted on the wall. And this is a country whose GDP is higher than Bangladesh.

@Bilal9 can you give me exact proof, where and when, photograph is sufficient. You are foreigner you just can give us the proof, if not you are doing fitna here

@anas_nurhafidz @pr1v4t33r @Indos @sukarno @Logam42 @MarveL

Indonesia has improved a lot in recent years on combating corruption in its civil service bureaucracy, still much needed to be done..

i'm not quite catch what he said, by printing and posting bribe amounts.. is it part of transparency act by our gov to publish bribe attempt or what?

 

[UKBengali]

I just say, shut up your filthy mouth. You start name calling when you have little intelligence of making any input. How long will you remain a crying baby? Do not make the personal attack. Counter my arguments with your own valid reasoning. I have no special agenda but to tell the truth. You have BAL Chetona agenda and I am not here to buy your Chetona propaganda. Period.

Please learn basic English skills.
I said you are stupid and/or have an agenda.
Understand what this means before crying like a child.

You have no idea how of little worth your posts have become now
- they are at the same level of idune now. Well done for getting down to his abysmal quality.

 

[Safada]

Again, another one that didn't READ the report sources (specifically the number of NGOs). Illiteracy really seems to be a problem with your kind.



What's the GDP %? "Thrives"...lol. Yes I suppose every country that is not Bangladesh "thrives" on tourism, given like 3 people care to visit BD.



Because some BD twit says so. Sorry India is not 3 million genohoax la la land.



Probably because you don't read in first place.

https://www.sexassault.ca/statistics.htm

http://sacha.ca/resources/statistics

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId...binId=1.815911&playlistPageNum=1&binPageNum=1



Under-reporting (which is a global problem, just the degrees vary) = tampering?

No wonder your lots income is what it is as a group in North America. The level of feelz-based stupidity and illiteracy is quite phenomenal.



Yet Bangladesh is far worse and far more repressed. Sucks doesnt it?



Post 75 (by you) is where rape entered this thread. .

The TFR discrepancy teenage pregnancy was to show the level of corruption present in Bangladesh (just like the level of medical refugees sent to India dissonance with BD health claims)....which in turn again was brought up by Bangladeshi members here first (that Indian corruption level is the "same" or worse than BD).

Keep tagging mods and webby all you want....no rules are being broken. If you don't like the mirror and cannot handle the argument you lot started....it simply shows why 3 million hoax myth perpetuates within BD to this day....as a national foundation.

@Desert Fox @django @Hell hound @DANCING GIRL @Gibbs



Data as recent as 2013. You are free to read the entire report for yourself.



Good please confront your country people on this first and foremost before those that responding to it.



Hence why I said I don't hate the real Bangladesh. The version perpetuated here is definitely majority the groupthink chetona version....which is why it is abominable. @bluesky @Tanveer666

Bangladesh is a puny nation compared to India, and indeed no foreigner cares about visiting Bangladesh, as a result Bangladesh does not have much to hide because they don't have much to lose when it comes to only getting a few hundred thousand visitors per year compared to over 15-20 million a year in India. India on the other hand has a lot to lose when it comes to reputation, pride and tourists. India cares way more about their Izzat among the world than Bangladesh does, so yes, I think India is downplaying the rape stats way more to save face, after all India is bound to become the third largest tourism Economy in 10 years.

Remember you guys are a nation where Bollywood actors like Salman Khan gets away scot free with murder and domestic violence as long as you have money, so manipulating rape statistics is pretty easy.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-economy-in-10-years/articleshow/63421777.cms

Also you don't have to be showing me the rape stats of Canada, when I myself mentioned that Canada has a rape rate equivalent to India somehow, which means I've already done my research. You're the one that did not read and interpret properly when I stated in my previously reply Canada's rape rate is equivalent to India, which is pretty low by India's standards but high by Canadian standards.



Also Canada and other developed nations consider rape and sexual assault to be forceful intercourse during marriage, and little things like groping and fingering without consent as well; those acts aren't considered rape by India, they will just fault the girl herself. Of course Canada's rape rate is going to be almost equivalent to India's when you guys can't even get the definition of sexual assault and rape down pat.


India is also a nation that houses rapists who rape babies....

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ped-killed-in-indore/articleshow/63853239.cms

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-42869010

I just have to log onto Facebook to get multiple news stories about some rape incident in India popping up on my facebook homepage from multiple news outlets every few weeks.

These are just 2018 articles my friend, I mean we're only halfway through 2018 and you guys are pulling off shit like this. As I've said before you don't read about such vile acts coming out of any country in the world but India man. Google search all you want about babies being raped in Bangladesh, you won't find such articles as your first link.

Solve this paradox for me, why is that India gets so much heat and exposure over their rape epidemic by the media all over the world yet somehow you guys still have such a low rape rate? Why so much worldwide coverage yet such low rape rates? I mean what kind of Trump like fake news conspiracy does the media got against India? Doesn't make sense to me, someone must be wrong either the media or the stats, I'm leaning more towards the stats.

Brazil indeed has a really high rape rate that they got right with about 24.4 per 100,000. India on the other hand has 2.6 per 100,000, yet Sao Paolo and New Delhi are paired up to be the worst places in the world for sexual violence.

https://knoema.com/atlas/Brazil/Rape-rate

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...lace-world-india-capital-brazil-a8002541.html

Again reality and stats don't match up with India at all, however it does indeed with Brazil.


Under reporting is a problem with all nations, but it's much more significant for a nation of a billion people relative to a nation of 160 million like Bangladesh or 30 million when it concerns Canada. As someone mentioned, you guys only report about 5-6% of your potential rape cases lol! If Canada or Bangladesh were to report the rapes that they were supposed to report the rape rate would not increase as significantly as India's would.

And please don't call me a BD twit, I'm just a hockey loving Canadian of Bangladeshi descent

You must be quite the lonely individual when you got to go out tagging your pk defence buddies, who are ironically Pakistani and not Indian to show off your condescending replies like a little school bully in the playground.

 

[Mage]

I am not defending corruption rather asking to be realistic and not to do canning a weak horse to run at 100 mile speed which some of us here like Bluesky expect.

So you are saying that expecting BD to do better than Mozambique or Sierra Leon is unrealistic and too much to ask.

Bangladesh's point is 26 and India's 40 does not mean India is 40-26=14 times less corrupt that Bangladesh.

No. It simply means that India is significantly less corrupt than BD.

Even if Bangladesh achieve 41 point, it will not guarranty that Bangladesh will develop twice as much as it is now.

It won't guarantee it. But it will guarantee that the growth will benefit people more than the few selected bunch.

Bangladesh is 143rd and Myanmar is 130th. Such a close position when both are at the letter half of the ranking, it is impossible to say with certainty that Bangladesh is more corrupt than Myanmar.

Myanmar used to be way behind BD. And now they are ahead. Anyone who says it is fine has some crack in his/her head.

we are ranked some place behind than India or Pakistan

We are like 50 place behind India though. If anything it indicates that we have lots of work to do and I hardly see any effort here. Why don't they crack down on corruption like Caretaker govt of 2006-8 did?

If being 26 instead of 32 mattered all that much, wouldn't the growth rate be reversed?

If BD's score was 32 instead of 26 then the growth would benefit people slightly more than it does now.

I am not talking about one-off thing either, BD has been consistently performing far better at about any social and economic growth terms for many years now despite the CPI difference. Corruption of course is rampant in BD and it sucks, but to make doomsday prediction for BD because of that?

If recent long history, say 10-15 years, is anything to go by, then I see BD continuing to grow the way it is and even faster. Because corruption wasn't absent while the high level of growth BD had in the last decade and the rate of growth keeps rising. I would say, going by the trend and also other favourable future situations like certainty in Hasina remaining PM, that BD growth rate will stay high or even increase rate of growth.

BD has now ethnic tension, no religious tension...no international tension. Don't have to spend much on military. Has a stable govt. Shouldn't BD be doing much better? If we're stuck comparing ourselves with India and Pakistan......then you'll never see a developed BD in a million years.

so After Sri Lankans, Bilal has now managed to piss of the Indonesians as well. Good job, lad. I wonder who else he's gonna call as false flaggers.

 

[bête noire]

So you are saying that expecting BD to do better than Mozambique or Sierra Leon is unrealistic and too much to ask.

No. It simply means that India is significantly less corrupt than BD.

It won't guarantee it. But it will guarantee that the growth will benefit people more than the few selected bunch.

Myanmar used to be way behind BD. And now they are ahead. Anyone who says it is fine has some crack in his/her head.

We are like 50 place behind India though. If anything it indicates that we have lots of work to do and I hardly see any effort here. Why don't they crack down on corruption like Caretaker govt of 2006-8 did?

If BD's score was 32 instead of 26 then the growth would benefit people slightly more than it does now.

BD has now ethnic tension, no religious tension...no international tension. Don't have to spend much on military. Has a stable govt. Shouldn't BD be doing much better? If we're stuck comparing ourselves with India and Pakistan......then you'll never see a developed BD in a million years.

so After Sri Lankans, Bilal has now managed to piss of the Indonesians as well. Good job, lad. I wonder who else he's gonna call as false flaggers.

Depends on how you look at corruption. If it's a standalone issue when comparing with other countries like India Pakistan, Sierra Leone and such then you are of course undoubtedly correct that BD needs to not only improve, the fact that BD is even behind them even with all the advantages of no tension and stable government is a shame.

If you however look at corruption and connect it to economy and then compare it to those same countries then that's a different issue and one I do not agree where you say this caveat would stop BD from reaching what is considered to be a developed country ever. BD is behind them on corruption but pretty sure the common public is better off in BD then in Sierra Leone. BD does far better than PK, IND and other under-developed countries on social, health and women empowerment sector where it's not even comparable. And in economic sector too, BD is doing far better and comparable to only India, Vietnam and the likes.

Was BD's corruption better before? BD consecutively was the champion of corruption in the 2000s and while it has since improved, the improvement is very minor. Despite that for all these years, BD managed to grow in every important social, health and economic sector while Sierra Leone, PK couldn't even though they are less corrupt.

Corruption is a major problem but it isn't end all be all. BD has managed to do better than just about every underdeveloped countries in the last decade in every sector than the highly sought after less corrupt country and its not going to stop BD in the coming future either. Corruption is an impediment to progress and development but it would be plain ignorant to make future doomsday prediction for BD on this basis after seeing how BD has done in the decades past with the corruption running through it.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

So you are saying that expecting BD to do better than Mozambique or Sierra Leon is unrealistic and too much to ask.

No. It simply means that India is significantly less corrupt than BD.

It won't guarantee it. But it will guarantee that the growth will benefit people more than the few selected bunch.

Myanmar used to be way behind BD. And now they are ahead. Anyone who says it is fine has some crack in his/her head.

We are like 50 place behind India though. If anything it indicates that we have lots of work to do and I hardly see any effort here. Why don't they crack down on corruption like Caretaker govt of 2006-8 did?

If BD's score was 32 instead of 26 then the growth would benefit people slightly more than it does now.

BD has now ethnic tension, no religious tension...no international tension. Don't have to spend much on military. Has a stable govt. Shouldn't BD be doing much better? If we're stuck comparing ourselves with India and Pakistan......then you'll never see a developed BD in a million years.

so After Sri Lankans, Bilal has now managed to piss of the Indonesians as well. Good job, lad. I wonder who else he's gonna call as false flaggers.

I never said that. Can you give me proof that I said surpassing Mozambique or Sierra Leon in CPI is unrealistic? I was talking about bluesky's assertion that a poor country like Bangladesh should be at first corruption free to start developing. I personally think, it would have been better if it were less than 100 in that list. But I will not dance with joy if Bangladesh just became better than Mozambique or Pakistan in that list. For me improving 10, 20 or 30 places in CPI does not make any significant difference for economic development. I would have been excited if we could improve in TI list like a developed country very rapidly.But this is very unlikely, almost impossible. So I have no interest whether Bangladesh is placed 100th, 110th, 120th, 130th,140th,150th or 160th in that list. You people are making life and death among the position of BD, India, Pakistan or Mozambique. But I would rather be more happy if we improve 10 places in HDI or easy of doing business rather than corruption index.

For me improving 20, 30 places in CPI does not hold same importance as improving infrastructure index, Human development index, easy of doing business index, electricity connection rate, literacy rate, fertility rate, under 5 mortality rate, Life expectancy growth rate, GDP growth rate, per capita income growth rate, industrial growth rate, agricultural growth rate and so many others. Even if we declared by TI as the most corrupt state in the world, I would not loose sleep or expect doomsday for Bangladesh, because I know, we have endured that tag for long 5 years in the past, still managed to grow economy by 5-6 percent, reduce poverty, increase literacy then and finally able to overcome that tag. If you or @bluesky solely want to focus on TI index then you guys are welcome to do that.

 

[Mage]

Depends on how you look at corruption. If it's a standalone issue when comparing with other countries like India Pakistan, Sierra Leone and such then you are of course undoubtedly correct that BD needs to not only improve, the fact that BD is even behind them even with all the advantages of no tension and stable government is a shame.

This is not the standalone issue. But this issue hampers our progress in many area as well. The ranking or the points don't bother me. I wouldn't have even brought the ranking or index if posters here weren't brushing it off by saying every country is like that. What bothers me is every project done by the govt takes twice to thrice the time to complete and cost twice or thrice more as well. What bothers me is our elevated expressway work has progressed like 7% in 7 years. What bothers me is the fat chamchas running the govt administration without any efficiency or goodwill. I went to Rajuk office in 2015. I did a pay order and they simply took 100tk more than the actual commission without giving any reason. 100tk may not be that much for me, but if you expect me to pay it like it's the norm then it will certainly make me mad.

If you however look at corruption and connect it to economy and then compare it to those same countries then that's a different issue and one I do not agree where you say this caveat would stop BD from reaching what is considered to be a developed country ever.

It is hampering at least. And wishful thinking like it will go away on it's own doesn't do any good.

Corruption is a major problem

At least you agree unlike many others.

I never said that.

You did indirectly. When I said BD does worse than Sierra Leone, Mozambique and Myanmar you wrote

rather asking to be realistic and not to do canning a weak horse to run at 100 mile speed which some of us here like Bluesky expect.

easy of doing business rather than corruption index.

Corruption is one of the major reason behind BD's crappy Ease of doing Business index. And corruption certainly negatively impact many other indexes as well.

Even if we declared by TI as the most corrupt state in the world, I would not loose sleep or expect doomsday for Bangladesh, because I know, we have endured that tag for long 5 years in the past, still managed to grow economy by 5-6 percent, reduce poverty, increase literacy then and finally able to overcome that tag. If you or @bluesky solely want to focus on TI index then you guys are welcome to do that.

We're not talking about doomsday here. But the posters who think corruption is not an issue or it will go away on it's own or it is fine....certainly do not wish the best for BD.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

You did indirectly. When I said BD does worse than Sierra Leone, Mozambique and Myanmar you wrote

I am not defending corruption rather asking to be realistic and not to do canning a weak horse to run at 100 mile speed which some of us here like Bluesky expect.

Have you noticed that I referenced bluesky while giving analogy of weak horse, 100 miles speed? I was still under the mode of replying bluesky's massage. I did not put any attention to Mozambique or Sierra Leon stuff and my that statement was not for that 2 countries rather bluesky's absurd statement that Bangladesh should be corruption free at first to develop. Read again the following post to gasp which thing I was indicating to. It is certainly not Mozambique or Sierra Leon.

Corruption is one of the major reason behind BD's crappy Ease of doing Business index. And corruption certainly negatively impact many other indexes as well.

One of the factor, yes, but corruption is not the whole thing for improving in business index. Favorable rules and regulation, Tax break, property rights, gas electricity connection, skilled manpower all are required for favorable easy of doing business index. It is possible for Bangladesh to improve a lot in business index even without moving a single place in TI corruption index.Although I am not advocating that we should forget about corruption and just try to improve business climate by pursuing other means.I said it to just make a point.

I did not claim that corruption do not adversely affect the development.My only dispute is that, it is not 'end of the world' and just because we are 143rd in that rank, we should lost hope. We are doing quite good even with that horrible corruption index, would have done somewhat better if our ranking were good.But what's the point of constantly crying about that index?

What bothers me is every project done by the govt takes twice to thrice the time to complete and cost twice or thrice more as well. What bothers me is our elevated expressway work has progressed like 7% in 7 years. What bothers me is the fat chamchas running the govt administration without any efficiency or goodwill. I went to Rajuk office in 2015. I did a pay order and they simply took 100tk more than the actual commission without giving any reason. 100tk may not be that much for me, but if you expect me to pay it like it's the norm then it will certainly make me mad.

These things also bother me but what you are saying here is not unique to Bangladesh.These things affect all the poor, developing countries to various extent. I also hate corruption and want Bangladesh to vigorously clamp down it, but I hate it when some of the guys here throw cold water in every positive discussion about BD citing corruption issue or index.As if, it is the only thing deciding the development or non-development of BD.

 

[Nilgiri]

Google search all you want about babies being raped in Bangladesh, you won't find such articles as your first link.

Why would Google show up anything about Bangladeshi disturbing incidents? Bangladesh is a country that legally prosecutes its own people for even daring to question the 3 million number for its genohoax. @Desert Fox @Psychic

Such a "country" simply has 0 credibility for transparency of its inner going on....the chetona repression is at juche commie levels....its media and society are thus totally on the chetona plantation with no actual basic freedom and transparency.

That's why when things get out somehow, they are indeed as shocking as Dhaka's ranking in liveability being little better than Damascus and Tripoli.

And please don't call me a BD twit, I'm just a hockey loving Canadian of Bangladeshi descent.

As long as you act as shameless as your "descent"...you will be called exactly what you are. There is a fundamental reason why your lot do so badly in North America:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Just be thankful Canada doesn't separate past "South Asian" in statscan like the US does in its census....you can ride coat tails that way, just like your shameless lot does in UK with "Indian" restaurants because they are so embarrassed at their own 70% poverty rate true identity.

so After Sri Lankans, Bilal has now managed to piss of the Indonesians as well. Good job, lad. I wonder who else he's gonna call as false flaggers.

Just you wait! He is the gift that keeps on giving. Makes it ridiculously easy to isolate BD into a punching bag. Chetona-ism leads to this inevitably.

Point of Order for @Bilal9 :

While it is good that you are not apathetic to corruption in your country, I would like to ask you to not slander other countries using a decade old video as 'proof' to your frankly fully unrelated claims.

I do not know how much Bangladesh has improved in a decade, but as an Indonesian I can state with confidence that my nation has. The question Indonesians ask is not "Is it getting better?" but rather "How much better is it?". Do not make false claims of other nations to make yourself feel better. That is rude and dishonest.

Let me show you how we have worked to improve our nation:

Spoiler: Indonesian Indicators

Indonesia has tackled corruption perceptions, made business easier, increased our global competitiveness, and has taken strides to diversify our economy, substantially decreasing our dependencies on minerals and agriculture.

BD on the other hand has stagnated with over the same period with the same old economic dependencies. Looking at other government and economic indicators doesn't change that verdict:

Spoiler: Bangladesh Indicators

The closest thing Bangladesh has managed to do is keep apace to Indonesia's improving competitiveness. By all rights Bangladesh should be improving faster due to starting from a lower score than us.

Look, I'm happy it seems that BD is finally getting its shit together, but please, making fake claims such as yours is both dishonest and unnecessary.

Indonesia has been making impressive improvements. Good job!

Don't pay much heed to the loser whiners here....I already posted the CPI methodology here after their conspiracy whining...and they have gone silent on it.

 

[Nilgiri]

For cases of Bangladesh, TFR reduced more sharply than teenage pregnancy in the last 20 years.The ultimate factor that decide TFR is how many child a woman bear in her entire reproductive life irrespective of whether she bear that child in her Teenage(15-19y) or in advanced ages(30-45y). In Bangladesh, the mean age of 1st child birth is 18.5y for mother but in Italy, Spain and Japan it is 30.7y.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2256.html

In Bangladesh, due to prevalent conservative social custom, parent ususaly give marriage their daughter at early ages specially in rural areas and expect to bear child within 1st year of marriage.But after giving birth of 2 children most of the women stop and use contraceptive.But a woman is Italy or Spain, although enters sexual life early, they hold on child bearing until the age of 30 years.So if a Bangladeshi girl give birth 2 child at her 16 and 18 years and then continue contraception, she will be a teenage mother with TFR just 2.0. Similarly if a woman in Italy give birth 2 children in her 31 and 35 years, she will also have TFR 2.0.

Higher TRF do not always correspond to lower age of child birth.Take another example, Ireland has high TFR of 2.0 child per woman but also a very high mean age of 1st birth at 30.7 years. On the other hand, Ukrainian women give birth at early ages, their mean age of 1st child birth is just 24.9 years but TFR is also very low at 1.5 children per women. Now what will you say? This is the same thing happening in Bangladesh. Our fertility rate reduction is much rapid than lowering teenage pregnancy rate.

Since the ancient ages, Bengal was known for very early marriages, both among hindus and muslims.This early marriage tradition was much stronger in eastern part of sub continent than western part.This bad tradition will take more time to die out here than other places.But economic consideration, female employment and and a successful family planning program in Bangladesh ensure that overwhelming majority of women now give birth to just 1 to 3 child(average 2 child) albeit in earlier ages. But this child marriage phenomenon is declining quite rapidly in Bangladesh in recent years as female drop out rate from school is declining very fast and many rural families are now being lifted from very poor condition.
@UKBengali @Bilal9 @Ashik Mahmud @Centaur @asgur @bluesky @Cycle Macson @TopCat @Mage @Michael Corleone @Hasan89 @shourov323

Good, I'm glad I committed you to another long blah blah quack post that is now going to end up as you stepping on a landmine as usual.

One picture describes a thousand words to sink your typical chetona feelz (feel free to check at world bank stats):

It is simple the degree that Bangladesh is removed from the global best fit line of TFR vs AdoBR that suggests significant foul play in the TFR of 2.1 claim. I can give the implied R^2 value differential (if you know what that even is) if you want...to give the extent of BD's anomaly (arrow indicates the likely position).

@Marine Rouge (lol mado, you changed your name)

It is thus likely Bangladesh TFR is closer to the 3.0 mark, and could very well be above that too (if you look at the average long distances from the best fit line like Indonesia, Pakistan and Afghanistan show).

If you base a country on a 3 million number and continue to shield that outright lie (which even many of YOU have admitted is a stupid number and even mistranslation of 3 lakh in the first place)....you really think twiddling with a few ASFR bands in the data is completely unthinkable? Or a country that clearly lies about its mortality rates too given the clear dissonance with the medical refugees it sends for the most basic of things like X-rays (that too often forcing them to sell land even...given the 90%+ peasant stock rate found in BD).

If you quack reply anymore (with your pretty pathetic superficial analysis on this matter) ...I will simply post the population pyramid integral next to further sewer your ridiculous feeble chetonaism....a sample of that BTW is the number 22%...thats the implied birth rate burden on 15-19 year olds in Bangladesh....which is frankly astonishing and completely dissonant yet again (given the feedback implication on rest of child bearing age ranges). Want me to compare that to the region and world next? Just reply one more time....or just run away now like you wisely did last time:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...n-new-fiscal-year.562317/page-6#post-10548914

Why is it likely the TFR is what Bangladesh is lieing/distorting about? Simple....the 3rd party evidence of Bangladeshis found outside the Chetona groupthink "3-million feelz" plantation that is the delta.

From the UK:

http://iussp2009.princeton.edu/papers/93139

Combined with what illegal immigration further does to it:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...gave-it-pm-hasina.561201/page-2#post-10533190

If members here are admitting to their country people they know earning their bread illegally as far away as Chennai and Bangalore, you can imagine what the effect is closer to the borders with the delta plantation (as Myanmar also recently acted upon, setting up prequel to long term NRC-based action from India coming up):

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/risi...ance-continues-in-april.556964/#post-10466962

Two of her sons work in Chennai/Bangalore at some garmwnt industry. A life story among many others, who remitt their hard-earned Dollar to our state coffer.

@django @Aung Zaya @Gibbs @Major Sam @Desert Fox

 

[Safada]

Why would Google show up anything about Bangladeshi disturbing incidents? Bangladesh is a country that legally prosecutes its own people for even daring to question the 3 million number for its genohoax. @Desert Fox @Psychic

Such a "country" simply has 0 credibility for transparency of its inner going on....the chetona repression is at juche commie levels....its media and society are thus totally on the chetona plantation with no actual basic freedom and transparency.

That's why when things get out somehow, they are indeed as shocking as Dhaka's ranking in liveability being little better than Damascus and Tripoli.



As long as you act as shameless as your "descent"...you will be called exactly what you are. There is a fundamental reason why your lot do so badly in North America:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Just be thankful Canada doesn't separate past "South Asian" in statscan like the US does in its census....you can ride coat tails that way, just like your shameless lot does in UK with "Indian" restaurants because they are so embarrassed at their own 70% poverty rate true identity.

Don't worry, even I question the 3 million genocide figure. Even my mom loves to complain about how Bangladesh sensationalizes every single local news coverage with overly dramatic commentary. However for some reason you always have to be stating the same rhetorics about the 3 million number in everyone of your posts in order to mock bangladeshis. Also you come off being extremely racist for a guy who lives in Canada, what's your problem?

You making fun of the socio-economical background of Bangladeshi expats, completely verifies the stereotype my mother has against Indians as being rude and arrogant unfortunately.

 

[Nilgiri]

Don't worry, even I question the 3 million genocide figure. Even my mom loves to complain about how Bangladesh sensationalizes every single local news coverage with overly dramatic commentary. However for some reason you always have to be stating the same rhetorics about the 3 million number in everyone of your posts in order to mock bangladeshis. Also you come off being extremely racist for a guy who lives in Canada, what's your problem?

You making fun of the socio-economical background of Bangladeshi expats, completely verifies the stereotype my mother has against Indians as being rude and arrogant.

You are the one that made a huge hue and cry about Indian rape this and that in other threads and now this one.....when you are from the get go...lieing + protecting the lie kind of country (and all the further avenues for repression and groupthink that entails by controlled or non-existent media + social transparency).

You have no leg to stand on....so bugger off. You are about as "Canadian" as these folks are "European":

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ing-dhaka-dubai-turkey-detained-a7713911.html

But props for admitting the wretchedness of the 3 million claim....too bad BD govt would prosecute you if you said that out loud.....but you have to strangely automatically believe them on other matters they control the narrative on.

This is why "liberation war" is such an oxymoron for your people....they just get swapped between plantations of their own making.