MastanKhan
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IAF had the initiative. They acted on their PM's orders. PAF was in reactive mode. A calibrated response was the most appropriate one & it did work in Pakistan's favor.
I must say, though, that MK does have a point when he says that in the immediate aftermath of the attack PAF had a small window within which retaliation could be well-justified. However, exploiting it would have been rash. IAF was on high alert and only when they lowered the alert level did PAF hit them hard. So, looks like PAF decided to avoid a trap and hit at the time & with the method of their own choosing.
The context of the whole thing was the upcoming Indian elections. Modi's BJP won it handily. 27 Feb was not a major issue. Had their been a wider conflict BJP leadership would have climbed the escalation ladder out of its political necessity. The end-goal of winning Indian elections would have been achieved regardless. So, in wider context, the whole skirmish was a non-issue & any escalation would have been to Pakistan's disadvantage. PAF could not have prevented anything irrespective of how many IAF jets had fallen. It merely showed its operational preparedness to thwart any other adventures in near future. The lessons learned by IAF would just be as applicable if a higher number of jets had fallen. IAF would fix the gaps, and recover morale regardless of whether 2 planes fell or 4. In context, there would be little difference.
MK does not quite get it. He does not want to get it. His thinking revolves around PAF & airwar and he ignores much else in his analysis. Should someone point at Pakistan's economy, or political dimension of conflict, he gets flustered and goes on diatribe against the poster. For this reason he is on many senior members' ignore lists. Earlier in the thread he called someone an enemy (of Pakistan) and the TT to whom it was addressed did not respond. Why? Because MK is on his ignore list and rightly so.
Pakistan can not afford open war & this is not a secret. Anyone who wishes for war is an enemy even if an unwitting one. PAF's action ensures that the enemy knows that the cost of aggression would be high, and in the end, this is what matters.
@Signalian has described his view of 5G war which, in his view, involves 5th 6th 7th... nth column within Pakistan. It is necessary to debunk this view. I am among those who want PA to stay within bounds of its professional duties and not overstep into civilian domain. I want PA to accept civilians as bosses and follow orders instead of issuing policy statements & trying to make foreign policy. This has been the path to ruin for Pakistan in many ways. This does not make me any less of a patriot; and in fact makes me more so. All the talk of 5 6 7 ... N Generation warfare is just security-centered paranoia. There are added dimensions of conflict in cyberspace, social media, & via fake news generation. We saw all that in the aftermath of 27th Feb. But the world was not fooled. Rather Indians showed themselves to be fools for bringing up all sorts of improbable babble. Description of the new dimensions of warfare as something internal to Pakistan is the exact opposite of what is needed. The state may wish to be stronger, but the nation would pay the price. Demagogues and vested interests would want to create paranoia, but that would end up making the country weaker and less safe, as security apparatus amasses more power and uses more resources. Any view that leads the nation down this rabbit hole must be countered & opposed simply on grounds of plain common sense.
Hi,
Would you ever put your enemy on an ignore list---. Possibly so---. That is a unique pakistani trait---. Pakistanis think that as they do not know about it---it does not exist---and thus will not harm them---.
Pakistan's cricket team are a great example---when the pak team captains were asked what the critics are saying---they would respond---" I don't read the news---I don't listen to the news--"---these interviews are on record---.
It should be considered a matter of shame and not of pride---specially for someone being on a defense website---.
Ignore list is like an Ostrich hiding its head in sand and thinking the issue would go away---.
This same TT who disagreed with me years ago---now uses most of his information that I posted years ago and makes it sound as his own.
The soft spoken intelligent type have ruined civilizations over the period of history---.
Now coming to yourself---what is your achievement on this forum---. Rather than taking a stand for other MEN why don't you talk about yourself and let others fend for themselves---.