Change of guard in Pakistan- Indian perspective

[satyamev]

Now that pti is out of power in Pakistan, how is the government change going to effect India's relations with Pakistan.
My perspective -
Imran's actions -
1. Broke off all relations with India using kashmir as a crutch.
2. Created new issues like junagarh, to perpetuate disagreements with India beyond kashmir.
3. Stopped all trade , except medicines which Pakistan needs.
4. Extensive propaganda against India in all international forums.
5. Targeted western countries, using religion, creating divisions with them ,which is good for India.
6. Created rifts with China, again good for India as even China saw him as a unreliable ally.

Changes i see -
1. Trade to restart, especially cement which was a major export to India. Cement prices in India are red hot due to massive infrastructure development and private sector demand.
2. SAARC summit in Pakistan will be attended by India.
3. Token support for Kashmir to continue as the kashmir policy is under the establishment, so continuity is ensured.
4. Cricket relations might start with a Indian tour of Pakistan.
5. Pakistan to leave grey list , not good for India if pressure reduces.

conclusion - Imran was rabidly against India. Chose to break off relations with India under some excuse. He is a mirror image of the extreme hindu outfits, with a rigid one track mind.
His removal from power is good for the region and especially Pakistan. As his ego driven actions created bad blood with all .

 

[Imran Khan]

he is not going anywhere he still have more seats then anyone else in parliament

 

[I.R.A]

Chose to break off relations with India under some excuse.

Excuse?

Any sane mind will tell you what they think of RSS and hindutva mentality and ideology. He called it what it is ..... terrorists.

 

[Pajeet]

he is not going anywhere he still have more seats then anyone else in parliament

Naive ?
In Pakistan, the "Establishment" will choose the next PM, not the Votes.

 

[Pajeet]

Now that pti is out of power in Pakistan, how is the government change going to effect India's relations with Pakistan.
My perspective -
Imran's actions -
1. Broke off all relations with India using kashmir as a crutch.
2. Created new issues like junagarh, to perpetuate disagreements with India beyond kashmir.
3. Stopped all trade , except medicines which Pakistan needs.
4. Extensive propaganda against India in all international forums.
5. Targeted western countries, using religion, creating divisions with them ,which is good for India.
6. Created rifts with China, again good for India as even China saw him as a unreliable ally.

Changes i see -
1. Trade to restart, especially cement which was a major export to India. Cement prices in India are red hot due to massive infrastructure development and private sector demand.
2. SAARC summit in Pakistan will be attended by India.
3. Token support for Kashmir to continue as the kashmir policy is under the establishment, so continuity is ensured.
4. Cricket relations might start with a Indian tour of Pakistan.
5. Pakistan to leave grey list , not good for India if pressure reduces.

conclusion - Imran was rabidly against India. Chose to break off relations with India under some excuse. He is a mirror image of the extreme hindu outfits, with a rigid one track mind.
His removal from power is good for the region and especially Pakistan. As his ego driven actions created bad blood with all .

Imran's best Actions ( in favor of India ) :

1. Keeping Quiet with Article 370 Removal ( excpet for the usual lip service )
2. Making peace with India ( No Firing at LoC ). This is no small feat.
3. Maintaining Peace even when attacked with a Missile
4. Publicly Praising India and its Policies

You cant Ignore these.

 

[I.R.A]

Ones terrorist is another man s hero .
Anyway, relations won't change much.

We don't want them to change.

india can have their business relations with the sell out families of Pakistan, Bajayz of the future will help to ensure Pakistanis never fight their cases with indians on equal footing.

2. Making peace with India ( No Firing at LoC ). This is no small feat.

That is baja the LOC expert.

 

[Maula Jatt]

No one cares for an. Indian presepctive though...
Like I am being 100% being completely honest, it doesn't cross anyone's mind

 

[khansaheeb]

We don't want them to change.

india can have their business relations with the sell out families of Pakistan, Bajayz of the future will help to ensure Pakistanis never fight their cases with indians on equal footing.



That is baja the LOC expert.

Cow ka cola ready for export to Pakistan from India:-

 

[satyamev]

Imran's best Actions ( in favor of India ) :

1. Keeping Quiet with Article 370 Removal ( excpet for the usual lip service )
2. Making peace with India ( No Firing at LoC ). This is no small feat.
3. Maintaining Peace even when attacked with a Missile
4. Publicly Praising India and its Policies

You cant Ignore these.

wrong.
he used the 370 removal as a excuse to break off all relations.
As for loc , its under Gen Bajwa , not imran. Bajwa is a practical guy , who spoke with his actions. Stopped unnecessary deaths on both sides. Only supporters of such killings are non resident Pakistanis sitting comfortably in their western living rooms.
Praising India while on his way out. To drum up support for his narrative that he was being removed for his independent stance. His stance was off a moody teen , full of his own importance without actually achieving anything on the ground.

No one cares for an. Indian presepctive though...
Like I am being 100% being completely honest, it doesn't cross anyone's mind

imran referred to India 3 times in his half hour speech. Lots of praise from a guy who was very anti India for 3.5 years.

 

[Imran Khan]

Well his seats were "selected" when the counting went into a blackbox last elections. So it's hard to estimate his actual number of seats. Also after his actions in the last few days would have moved the fence sitters firmly away.

Politics is so dirty game man tell me how these goons will pass budget without imran khan ?

 

[Imran Khan]

Did IK manage the economy well?

Nope he did not as expected . But better then thieves .

 

[Imran Khan]

It's the same story in india. While Modi is doing an ok job, he has not delivered as expected in economy.

Since covid nothing is perfect

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Now that pti is out of power in Pakistan, how is the government change going to effect India's relations with Pakistan.
My perspective -
Imran's actions -
1. Broke off all relations with India using kashmir as a crutch.
2. Created new issues like junagarh, to perpetuate disagreements with India beyond kashmir.
3. Stopped all trade , except medicines which Pakistan needs.
4. Extensive propaganda against India in all international forums.
5. Targeted western countries, using religion, creating divisions with them ,which is good for India.
6. Created rifts with China, again good for India as even China saw him as a unreliable ally.

Changes i see -
1. Trade to restart, especially cement which was a major export to India. Cement prices in India are red hot due to massive infrastructure development and private sector demand.
2. SAARC summit in Pakistan will be attended by India.
3. Token support for Kashmir to continue as the kashmir policy is under the establishment, so continuity is ensured.
4. Cricket relations might start with a Indian tour of Pakistan.
5. Pakistan to leave grey list , not good for India if pressure reduces.

conclusion - Imran was rabidly against India. Chose to break off relations with India under some excuse. He is a mirror image of the extreme hindu outfits, with a rigid one track mind.
His removal from power is good for the region and especially Pakistan. As his ego driven actions created bad blood with all .

Mostly agree, but don't agree he is mirror image of extreme Hindu outfit. He would have to be ranting against and threatenening the safety of Pakistani Hindus, Sikhs and Christians for that, which was obviously not the case. On the contrary, he opened Kartarpur corridor for Sikhs.

 

[satyamev]

Since covid nothing is perfect

Why expect a person with experience in a sport to be a great administrator ?
In any job a qualification or skill set is expected . But not to hold a portfolio in Government.
Imran is a good opposition leader , where the only requirement is to keep the government on his toes.
But in government you have to implement actual change in the ground. Which a guy like nawaz did by making Pakistan a power surplus country in a few years. Not perfect as Pakistan has too many gas powered generation but still not a bad job.
I can't think of a single on the ground improvement imran made . All he made were castles in the air. And spoilt relations with his loose tongue and ego.

Mostly agree, but don't agree he is mirror image of extreme Hindu outfit. He would have to be ranting against and threatenening the safety of Pakistani Hindus, Sikhs and Christians for that, which was obviously not the case. On the contrary, he opened Kartarpur corridor for Sikhs.

their foreign minister is on tape saying " see how i tricked India by opening the katarpur corridor ".
It was a attempt to create fissures in India, not to help the sikhs.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Why expect a person with experience in a sport to be a great administrator ?
In any job a qualification or skill set is expected . But not to hold a portfolio in Government.
Imran is a good opposition leader , where the only requirement is to keep the government on his toes.
But in government you have to implement actual change in the ground. Which a guy like nawaz did by making Pakistan a power surplus country in a few years. Not perfect as Pakistan has too many gas powered generation but still not a bad job.
I can't think of a single on the ground improvement imran made . All he made were castles in the air. And spoilt relations with his loose tongue and ego.


their foreign minister is on tape saying " see how i tricked India by opening the katarpur corridor ".
It was a attempt to create fissures in India, not to help the sikhs.

Political statement is not equivalent to genocidal threats which is what Hindu extremists have been doing. It has tacit support of Bharati establishment. Nothing has been done to put a stop to the lynching of Muslims.