CBU 105 the real threat to our armored columns

[Hell hound]

When we talk about busting tanks, large guns and missiles pop into our minds. But this job can be done in a very unique way by using a deadly weapon called the Sensor Fused Weapon (SFW). Initially developed as the Cluster Bomb Unit -97 (CBU-97) which was unguided and quite inaccurate when released from high altitudes, it was modified and improved into the CBU-105 with the addition of GPS and tail guidance fins, which made it a very accurate Precision Guided Munition (PGM).
This is a very unique and versatile weapon whose use is not just limited to the destruction of enemy armour, but a host of other targets as well. Surface to Air (SAM) sites are a very big threat to combat aircraft in a conflict. To neutralize a widely spread chain of SAM sites which includes tens of launchers, radars and support vehicles, over a hundred guided missiles carried by 30-40 aircraft are needed. Instead, 2 F-15E fighters or a single bomber can drop these guided cluster bombs from high altitudes and destroy the targets effectively. A cluster bomb of this type can shred SAM launchers and radars with a high level of accuracy and effectiveness. A large number of CBU-105s can stop an enemy armoured division in its tracks and disable every vehicle in it. These 450 kg (1,000 pound), GPS guided bombs cost over $700,000 per unit. The USAF uses them from a variety of combat aircraft like F-15/16, A-10, B-1/2/52. India has integrated them with the Jaguar.
what we all seems to ignore here is that it is not the brahmos,mig 29 or mki that are threats. the real threat to our forces is jaguar equipped with cbu 105 these thing can decimate entire columns of armored force in a single strike and that too from stand off range.
worse part is neither we are getting any weapon of this class nor are we seeing any counter measure developed for it.

 

[kris]

Cbu-105 is not a standoff weapon

 

[Hell hound]

Cbu-105 is not a standoff weapon

standoff is a subjective term in the Pakistani scenario where we lack decent sam coverage for the armored columns on the move it is a standoff weapon. fm 90 has rage of 15 km and altitude envelope of 49–19,685 ft.while cbu 105 can be dropped form 40,000ft at the range of around 19 km.i am not saying that it will be a walk in the park for jaguars but a single successful attack by few jags can be as deadly as tactical nukes for our armored columns

have a look at this article

The SFW is operationally effective when employed at low altitude using level or shallow angle dive deliveries. The weapon is most effective when employed at low altitude from level flight attitudes in a non-countermeasured environment. Due to TMD performance limitations, the current SFW weapon configuration provides the user a limited range of tactical employment options. Weapon effectiveness decreases as release altitude, dive angle, and/or time of flight increases because of adverse effects of wind conditions, weapon dispersion, and aim point uncertainties on delivery accuracy. This performance degradation is an inherent characteristic of all inventory TMD weapons. Due to these TMD accuracy limitations, the USAF Air Combat Command plans to outfit SFW with Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser (WCMD) tail kit. The SFW's delivery envelope will be expanded to include strategic aircraft and higher altitudes through incorporation of the WCMD. The SFW with WCMD is designated CBU-105.

CBU-97 SFW can be delivered in all weather conditions, day or night, from altitudes of 200 to 20,000 feet, and at speeds up to 650 knots. By incorporating Lockheed Martin's Wind Corrected Munition Dispenser (WCMD) tail kit on SFW, which then redesignated SFW as a CBU-105, the delivery altitude increases up to 40,000 feet and standoff ranges up to 12 miles can be achieved. Use of the WCMD tail kit requires the host aircraft to be MIL-STD-1760 compliant and have the CBU-105 operational flight program software resident in the weapon's control system.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/cbu-105.htm

 

[CriticalThought]

PA now has LY-80. Also, nobody knows the true capabilities of Ra'ad 2. A sub-munitions dispenser is the natural evolution of Ra'ad, although nothing has been confirmed officially.

 

[Panzerkampf]

PA now has LY-80.

LY-80 is not suitable for
Armoured colums cause even though it is truck mounted it takes Atleast 20-30 minutes to get to ready to fire position from moving state.

 

[YeBeWarned]

we buy FM-90 to walk with our armored Columns ..

 

[Hell hound]

we buy FM-90 to walk with our armored Columns ..

fm 90 has range of 15 km and altitude envelope of 49–19,685 ft.while cbu 105 can be dropped form 40,000ft at the range of around 19 km

 

[YeBeWarned]

fm 90 has range of 15 km and altitude envelope of 49–19,685 ft.while cbu 105 can be dropped form 40,000ft at the range of around 19 km

Than , SPADA-2000 can ? they are developing a version which can be moved ..

 

[ashok321]

When we talk about busting tanks, large guns and missiles pop into our minds. But this job can be done in a very unique way by using a deadly weapon called the Sensor Fused Weapon (SFW). Initially developed as the Cluster Bomb Unit -97 (CBU-97) which was unguided and quite inaccurate when released from high altitudes, it was modified and improved into the CBU-105 with the addition of GPS and tail guidance fins, which made it a very accurate Precision Guided Munition (PGM).
This is a very unique and versatile weapon whose use is not just limited to the destruction of enemy armour, but a host of other targets as well. Surface to Air (SAM) sites are a very big threat to combat aircraft in a conflict. To neutralize a widely spread chain of SAM sites which includes tens of launchers, radars and support vehicles, over a hundred guided missiles carried by 30-40 aircraft are needed. Instead, 2 F-15E fighters or a single bomber can drop these guided cluster bombs from high altitudes and destroy the targets effectively. A cluster bomb of this type can shred SAM launchers and radars with a high level of accuracy and effectiveness. A large number of CBU-105s can stop an enemy armoured division in its tracks and disable every vehicle in it. These 450 kg (1,000 pound), GPS guided bombs cost over $700,000 per unit. The USAF uses them from a variety of combat aircraft like F-15/16, A-10, B-1/2/52. India has integrated them with the Jaguar.
what we all seems to ignore here is that it is not the brahmos,mig 29 or mki that are threats. the real threat to our forces is jaguar equipped with cbu 105 these thing can decimate entire columns of armored force in a single strike and that too from stand off range.
worse part is neither we are getting any weapon of this class nor are we seeing any counter measure developed for it.

Your post is thought provoking..

 

[kris]

standoff is a subjective term in the Pakistani scenario where we lack decent sam coverage for the armored columns on the move it is a standoff weapon. fm 90 has rage of 15 km and altitude envelope of 49–19,685 ft.while cbu 105 can be dropped form 40,000ft at the range of around 19 km.i am not saying that it will be a walk in the park for jaguars but a single successful attack by few jags can be as deadly as tactical nukes for our armored columns

have a look at this article

The SFW is operationally effective when employed at low altitude using level or shallow angle dive deliveries. The weapon is most effective when employed at low altitude from level flight attitudes in a non-countermeasured environment. Due to TMD performance limitations, the current SFW weapon configuration provides the user a limited range of tactical employment options. Weapon effectiveness decreases as release altitude, dive angle, and/or time of flight increases because of adverse effects of wind conditions, weapon dispersion, and aim point uncertainties on delivery accuracy. This performance degradation is an inherent characteristic of all inventory TMD weapons. Due to these TMD accuracy limitations, the USAF Air Combat Command plans to outfit SFW with Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser (WCMD) tail kit. The SFW's delivery envelope will be expanded to include strategic aircraft and higher altitudes through incorporation of the WCMD. The SFW with WCMD is designated CBU-105.

CBU-97 SFW can be delivered in all weather conditions, day or night, from altitudes of 200 to 20,000 feet, and at speeds up to 650 knots. By incorporating Lockheed Martin's Wind Corrected Munition Dispenser (WCMD) tail kit on SFW, which then redesignated SFW as a CBU-105, the delivery altitude increases up to 40,000 feet and standoff ranges up to 12 miles can be achieved. Use of the WCMD tail kit requires the host aircraft to be MIL-STD-1760 compliant and have the CBU-105 operational flight program software resident in the weapon's control system.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/cbu-105.htm

19km can hardly be called a standoff weapon even in subjective terms.
This weapon works on gravity only, can't even glide

But without Sam cover your armed columns can't thrust into Indian territory

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

This weapon is more for a chinese surprise move rather than pakistan i think,though they can be easily turned on PA.The topic is valid,PA does need a modern QR SAM thats mobile if it wants to retain its old doctrine of quick armoured thrusts for bargaining territory as it tried in 65 and 71.

 

[Basel]

When we talk about busting tanks, large guns and missiles pop into our minds. But this job can be done in a very unique way by using a deadly weapon called the Sensor Fused Weapon (SFW). Initially developed as the Cluster Bomb Unit -97 (CBU-97) which was unguided and quite inaccurate when released from high altitudes, it was modified and improved into the CBU-105 with the addition of GPS and tail guidance fins, which made it a very accurate Precision Guided Munition (PGM).
This is a very unique and versatile weapon whose use is not just limited to the destruction of enemy armour, but a host of other targets as well. Surface to Air (SAM) sites are a very big threat to combat aircraft in a conflict. To neutralize a widely spread chain of SAM sites which includes tens of launchers, radars and support vehicles, over a hundred guided missiles carried by 30-40 aircraft are needed. Instead, 2 F-15E fighters or a single bomber can drop these guided cluster bombs from high altitudes and destroy the targets effectively. A cluster bomb of this type can shred SAM launchers and radars with a high level of accuracy and effectiveness. A large number of CBU-105s can stop an enemy armoured division in its tracks and disable every vehicle in it. These 450 kg (1,000 pound), GPS guided bombs cost over $700,000 per unit. The USAF uses them from a variety of combat aircraft like F-15/16, A-10, B-1/2/52. India has integrated them with the Jaguar.
what we all seems to ignore here is that it is not the brahmos,mig 29 or mki that are threats. the real threat to our forces is jaguar equipped with cbu 105 these thing can decimate entire columns of armored force in a single strike and that too from stand off range.
worse part is neither we are getting any weapon of this class nor are we seeing any counter measure developed for it.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

There are two parts: (1) the PAF needs its own equivalent to the CBU-105 and (2) short-to-medium range SAMs with terminal-stage active seekers and the ability to receive mid-course guidance from a radar that doesn't belong to its unit. In terms (2) I'm not sure where the industry stands in having that capability, but the idea is that in case your own SAM unit has to switch-off radar (e.g. SEAD/DEAD threat), you could pass the detection and guidance work to another (and safely positioned) radar.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

There are two parts: (1) the PAF needs its own equivalent to the CBU-105 and (2) short-to-medium range SAMs with terminal-stage active seekers and the ability to receive mid-course guidance from a radar that doesn't belong to its unit. In terms (2) I'm not sure where the industry stands in having that capability, but the idea is that in case your own SAM unit has to switch-off radar (e.g. SEAD/DEAD threat), you could pass the detection and guidance work to another (and safely positioned) radar.

PAF already has its own Hajara Cluster Bomb. What's the chance of that becoming guided? Would be difficult to do it?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

PAF already has its own Hajara Cluster Bomb. What's the chance of that becoming guided? Would be difficult to do it?

The CBU-105 is not just a guided dispenser, but even the bomblets are guided (with dual infrared and laser homing with explosive propelled top attack warheads). I don't think any country outside of the U.S. has this technology.