CATIC targets 300 JF-17 sales in five years

[kawaraj]

Buddy we never claim that Kaveri is in use ... But all Chinese members claim for their engines
This is not to troll but how can JF17 still using russian engine and J20 Chinese ???

My knowledge is Chinese engines are for their domestic use, birds provided for other nations are Russian engine?

Please confirm.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

well then that's good for pakistan ,

Where is Indian Lobby to stop upgraded Rd 93 Power houses for Jf17.

 

[farhan_9909]

last time i saw news of klimov saying

we can supply 400 more rd93 if they want

 

[SamranAli]

what if india pressurize russia to stop sale of engines? As indian member claim here.

 

[Ammyy]

what if india pressurize russia to stop sale of engines? As indian member claim here.

We were not able to stop this deal because China is the buyer not Pakistan (They were largest importer of Russian Hardware)

 

[Zarvan]

China hopes to sell up to 300 Chengdu/Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) JF-17 Thunder fighters in Africa and the Middle East over the next five years.This target was revealed by a spokesman from China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation (CATIC), the country’s military aircraft export agency, in an email to Flightglobal.

So far, only Pakistan has ordered the JF-17, with firm orders for 150 examples – Pakistan has said it could buy up to 200. Islamabad is about to equip its third squadron with the type.

“In the next five years, CATIC intends to sell up to 300 JF-17s to several countries in Africa and the Middle East,” says the spokesman.

“CATIC sales and customer support teams are highly motivated and CATIC is looking forward to making the upcoming years fantastic for the JF-17 and its users.”

An industry source in Pakistan who is familiar with the JF-17 programme says joint Chinese/Pakistan sales efforts have made “considerable progress” following the type’s appearance at the Dubai air show in November 2011.

CATIC and PAC mounted a major sales effort at Dubai, bringing three Pakistan air force JF-17s to the show. One example was on display in the static area, while another performed in the flying display – the third was a back-up aircraft. At the show, representatives stressed what they view as the JF-17′s “capability at affordable cost”.

The industry source stresses that marketing efforts for the type are shared equally between China and Pakistan, and notes that the aircraft is built in both countries. While he declined to provide a target number of orders, he did say that discussions are underway with “eight or nine countries”.

“They have indicated rough numbers,” he says. “Some want more, some want less.”

Countries regarded as possible buyers include the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Venezuela and Turkey. Serbia is also reportedly considering the type for its fighter requirement.

Though the type’s engine, the Klimov RD-93, is produced in Russia, the Pakistani official does not see this being an obstacle to sales because most prospective JF-17 customers have good relations with Russia.

“Doubt has never been cast on the aircraft’s engine,” he says.

WOW Pakistan still haven't got the number of JF-17 which we are supposed to get and they are making plans of selling 300 to other countries in next 5 years first full fill our needs than go for other exports and by the way which variant they are planning to sell ?

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

WOW Pakistan still haven't got the number of JF-17 which we are supposed to get and they are making plans of selling 300 to other countries in next 5 years first full fill our needs than go for other exports and by the way which variant they are planning to sell ?

France have only 52 Rafale but still got deal to provide 126 rafale with the option of 200 in 5-10 years.

 

[Beast]

This is talk only... I will only believe it when something really happen like customer name announce and agreement sign.

CATIC is more willing to push L-15 as its main export fighter/trainer. Ukraine engine is more business friendly and they are willing to help China setup domestic production line.

 

[shuttler]

This is talk only... I will only believe it when something really happen like customer name announce and agreement sign.

CATIC is more willing to push L-15 as its main export fighter/trainer. Ukraine engine is more business friendly and they are willing to help China setup domestic production line.

L-15 (@$15 mln) is about the same unit price as FC10 / JF 17 ( $18 mio). L-15 is primarily designed for training. It depends on the needs of the users since the specifications of the 2 planes are different!

 

[regular]

Excellent guyz. Great planning to sell as many JF-17 as can be .We want to see JF17 flying all over the world.......

 

[Beast]

L-15 (@$15 mln) is about the same unit price as FC10 / JF 17 ( $18 mio). L-15 is primarily designed for training. It depends on the needs of the users since the specifications of the 2 planes are different!

Do not be misled by the term trainer given to L-15 trainer. Just like what PLAN called her carrier a trainer. I will not dispute the fact L-15 is designed primAry for trainer. But to think the specification of L-15 and FC-1 is totAlly different are wrong. L-15 can be pressed into a fighter/ attacker with very minor modification.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUMdD3WnHxQ&feature=related

If you can understand Chinese, the designer of L-15 gives a good description of his baby...

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Performance
LT-15
Maximum speed: Mach 1.4
Range: 3,100 km ()
Combat radius: Over 550+ km
Service ceiling: 16,000 m ()
Rate of climb: >200 m/s (afterburning) ()
Empty weight: 4.96 t
Max. takeoff weight: 9.5 t


Jf17:
Empty weight: 6,586 kg (14,520 lb[
Loaded weight: 9,100 kg (20,062 lb
Max. takeoff weight: 12,383 kg (27,300 lb
Maximum speed: Mach 1.8
Combat radius: 1,352 km
Ferry range: 3,482 km
Service ceiling: 16,920 m
Max. takeoff weight: 12,383 kg (27,300 lb[

What should i say other than LT-15 is just advanced training aircraft.
LT-15 is comparable with M-346 Master, EADS Mako/HEAT and MiG-AT.

 

[Edevelop]

WOW Pakistan still haven't got the number of JF-17 which we are supposed to get and they are making plans of selling 300 to other countries in next 5 years first full fill our needs than go for other exports and by the way which variant they are planning to sell ?

Get a clue.... Don't you want to make money to produce our total order and also to increase JF-17 capabilities ???

 

[Beast]

Performance
LT-15
Maximum speed: Mach 1.4
Range: 3,100 km ()
Combat radius: Over 550+ km
Service ceiling: 16,000 m ()
Rate of climb: >200 m/s (afterburning) ()
Empty weight: 4.96 t
Max. takeoff weight: 9.5 t


Jf17:
Empty weight: 6,586 kg (14,520 lb[
Loaded weight: 9,100 kg (20,062 lb
Max. takeoff weight: 12,383 kg (27,300 lb
Maximum speed: Mach 1.8
Combat radius: 1,352 km
Ferry range: 3,482 km
Service ceiling: 16,920 m
Max. takeoff weight: 12,383 kg (27,300 lb[

What should i say other than LT-15 is just advanced training aircraft.
LT-15 is comparable with M-346 Master, EADS Mako/HEAT and MiG-AT.

Latest info is L-15 is a Mach 1.6 and the AI-225 afterburner gives it max 8400kg thrust. I doubt the combat radius is 550km. Given its ferry range is 3100km. Definitely comparable to FC-1.

It will be a combo of trainer Plus fighter/ attacker. Ultimate cost saver for small airforce.

 

[oct605032048]

We were not able to stop this deal because China is the buyer not Pakistan (They were largest importer of Russian Hardware)

Russo can sell more jets to you only after Pakistan equipped large number of JF17.