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Caste System Discrimination Documentary in India today (Warning:Disgusting)

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A very eye opening documentary on how caste system and discrimination still exists in India today. Other nationalities are welcome, but I would like Indian Members inputs on this issue, and would like to have a constructive discussion about this issue without turning it into a trollfest of mudslinging at each other.

The documentary is almost 2 hours long, but very informative and eye-opening.

India Untouched : To those who claim there is no Castism in India! Research Documentary! - YouTube
 
Caste system is a man made concept which has been taken out of context as per the holy teachings, I have explained this in the past and ill do it again.

There is no caste system as the word ‘caste’ implies that which is fixed from birth and not changeable. But there is a Vedic class system, which is defined in the Bhagavad-Gita as follows:

“Brahmanas, ksatriyas, vaisyas, and sudras are determined by their nature, qualities, and work performed.” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita Original 18.41)

What this means is that based on the qualities developed and the actions taken by a person. A person will belong to one of four classes:

Brahmans - Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, knowledge, wisdom and religiousness. Those who possess these qualities should be the leaders in society.

Ksatriyas - Heroism, power, determination, resourcefulness, courage in battle, generosity and leadership. Those who possess these qualities should be the administrators in society.

Vaisyas - Farming, cow protection and business. Those who possess these qualities should be the business owners and farmers.

Sudras - Labor and service to others. Those who possess these qualities should work under the guidance of the above classes.

Every corporation in the World uses the Vedic class system. For example, in a corporation people are employed based on the qualities of work they have developed. Some are vice presidents, some are managers, some are admin clerks, and some are janitors.

It is a fact that everyone is not the same; this can be proven by the fact that not everyone has all the good qualities or all bad qualities. By following the Vedic class system, everyone will strive to become the best among men. Those at the top (Brahmans) will strive to keep their high position, and those below will strive to advance to a higher position. At work, do you want to advance or would you prefer to stay in the same position?

Everyone would agree that at work, there should be opportunities for advancement for everyone based on the effort put in by each worker. If there are no opportunities for advancement based on the efforts of the workers, then everyone loses the motivation to work and the quality of workers diminishes. This would result in the collapse of the corporation.

In a classless society, there is no motivation to develop good qualities and everyone becomes degraded into the lowest class. This is the case everywhere in the World today. The leaders in most countries around the World are thieves, liars, and have no spiritual knowledge. The result of this is that the public suffers with injustice, high taxes, inflation, unemployment, and insecurity.

Wouldn’t it be nice if all the Politicians were peaceful, self-controlled, pure, tolerant, honest, knowledgeable, and religious? This is the aim of the Vedic class system. To ensure that suitably qualified personnel are appointed suitable roles in society. This concept is already used in corporations around the World.

The current caste system in India is a complete corruption of the Vedic class system that is prescribed by Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita and so it should be rejected. Currently the son of a Brahman is also called a Brahman, even though the son only has the qualities of a Sudra. Can the son of a high court judge also be called a judge? Can the son of a doctor be also called a doctor? The simple answer is no. One can only be called a judge or doctor, if one has developed the qualities of a judge or doctor.
 
Caste system is a man made concept which has been taken out of context as per the holy teachings, I have explained this in the past and ill do it again.

There is no caste system as the word ‘caste’ implies that which is fixed from birth and not changeable. But there is a Vedic class system, which is defined in the Bhagavad-Gita as follows:

“Brahmanas, ksatriyas, vaisyas, and sudras are determined by their nature, qualities, and work performed.” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita Original 18.41)

What this means is that based on the qualities developed and the actions taken by a person. A person will belong to one of four classes:

Brahmans - Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, knowledge, wisdom and religiousness. Those who possess these qualities should be the leaders in society.

Ksatriyas - Heroism, power, determination, resourcefulness, courage in battle, generosity and leadership. Those who possess these qualities should be the administrators in society.

Vaisyas - Farming, cow protection and business. Those who possess these qualities should be the business owners and farmers.

Sudras - Labor and service to others. Those who possess these qualities should work under the guidance of the above classes.

Every corporation in the World uses the Vedic class system. For example, in a corporation people are employed based on the qualities of work they have developed. Some are vice presidents, some are managers, some are admin clerks, and some are janitors.

It is a fact that everyone is not the same; this can be proven by the fact that not everyone has all the good qualities or all bad qualities. By following the Vedic class system, everyone will strive to become the best among men. Those at the top (Brahmans) will strive to keep their high position, and those below will strive to advance to a higher position. At work, do you want to advance or would you prefer to stay in the same position?

Everyone would agree that at work, there should be opportunities for advancement for everyone based on the effort put in by each worker. If there are no opportunities for advancement based on the efforts of the workers, then everyone loses the motivation to work and the quality of workers diminishes. This would result in the collapse of the corporation.

In a classless society, there is no motivation to develop good qualities and everyone becomes degraded into the lowest class. This is the case everywhere in the World today. The leaders in most countries around the World are thieves, liars, and have no spiritual knowledge. The result of this is that the public suffers with injustice, high taxes, inflation, unemployment, and insecurity.

Wouldn’t it be nice if all the Politicians were peaceful, self-controlled, pure, tolerant, honest, knowledgeable, and religious? This is the aim of the Vedic class system. To ensure that suitably qualified personnel are appointed suitable roles in society. This concept is already used in corporations around the World.

The current caste system in India is a complete corruption of the Vedic class system that is prescribed by Krishna in the Bhagavad-Gita and so it should be rejected. Currently the son of a Brahman is also called a Brahman, even though the son only has the qualities of a Sudra. Can the son of a high court judge also be called a judge? Can the son of a doctor be also called a doctor? The simple answer is no. One can only be called a judge or doctor, if one has developed the qualities of a judge or doctor.

I am not talking about the religious angle of the caste system, the bottom line is it is being horribly used to punish people and we as a nation have failed to check this.
 
I am not talking about the religious angle of the caste system, the bottom line is it is being horribly used to punish people and we as a nation have failed to check this.


It's a man made system which was also in the west in countries like UK and France but like racism it will be hard to remove totally without education of the masses.
 
Brahmans - Peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, knowledge, wisdom and religiousness. Those who possess these qualities should be the leaders in society.

Ksatriyas - Heroism, power, determination, resourcefulness, courage in battle, generosity and leadership. Those who possess these qualities should be the administrators in society.

Vaisyas - Farming, cow protection and business. Those who possess these qualities should be the business owners and farmers.

Sudras - Labor and service to others. Those who possess these qualities should work under the guidance of the above classes.

Hi, I don't understand why God would appoint a group higher than the rest. Where Brahmins are considered leaders of society, isn't that a bit discriminatory?

Btw, I haven't fully understood Indian caste system, but what are Dalits in the Gita?
 
Hi, I don't understand why God would appoint a group higher than the rest. Where Brahmins are considered leaders of society, isn't that a bit discriminatory?

Btw, I haven't fully understood Indian caste system, but what are Dalits in the Gita?


Its not about making certain people higher than others in Gita Krishna says to love all of mankind and those who do are close to God. It is more like say for example your father was a trader and u follow in his footsteps or another example is say I have skills in farming that would make me a ideal farmer as I already have those skills needed.

Currently the son of a Brahman is also called a Brahman, even though the son only has the qualities of a Sudra. Can the son of a high court judge also be called a judge? Can the son of a doctor be also called a doctor? The simple answer is no. One can only be called a judge or doctor, if one has developed the qualities of a judge or doctor.

“Brahmanas, ksatriyas, vaisyas, and sudras are determined by their nature, qualities, and work performed.” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-Gita Original 18.41)
 
That is a long documentary. Looks good from what I have seen so far.

And why did the kids say that the woman was a "Harijan"? Is that another way of saying Dalit?
 
I guess because the dalits do labour which is deemed to be unclean they are taught it would be unwise to enter their house etc but Krishna's message in the Gita is the exact opposite to this and quite sad that in this modern day people still practise such things.

That is a long documentary. Looks good from what I have seen so far.

And why did the kids say that the woman was a "Harijan"? Is that another way of saying Dalit?


Yep she is a Dalit
 
So, not only does India have more poverty and starvation than Africa... but they also have the most (in)famous system of discrimination in human history: The Indian Caste System.

Here are some recent events in India, that are examples of the thread topic in action:

2 Dalit kids killed, eyes gouged out - Times Of India

Two Dalit sisters burnt alive by mob - Times Of India

Two Dalits burnt alive after clash over dog - Times Of India

Dalit teenager burnt to death for resisting rape - Times Of India

16-yr-old Dalit girl raped, burnt alive - Times Of India

Physically-challenged Dalit girl burnt alive in Haryana - Times Of India
 
So, not only does India have more poverty and starvation than Africa... but they also have the most (in)famous system of discrimination in human history: The Indian Caste System.

Here are some recent events in India, that are examples of the thread topic in action:

2 Dalit kids killed, eyes gouged out - Times Of India

Two Dalit sisters burnt alive by mob - Times Of India

Two Dalits burnt alive after clash over dog - Times Of India

Dalit teenager burnt to death for resisting rape - Times Of India

16-yr-old Dalit girl raped, burnt alive - Times Of India

Physically-challenged Dalit girl burnt alive in Haryana - Times Of India


2007 article lol Mr Han i would worry more about the Buddhist monks in Tibet lighting themselves on fire
 
2007 article lol Mr Han i would worry more about the Buddhist monks in Tibet lighting themselves on fire

So you're comparing someone voluntarily committing suicide by setting themselves on fire, to Indian mobs grabbing Dalit children and cutting their eyes out, then burning them alive against their will?

Comparing suicide to Caste-based murder?
 
So you're comparing someone voluntarily committing suicide by setting themselves on fire, to Indian mobs grabbing Dalit children and cutting their eyes out, then burning them alive against their will?

Comparing suicide to Caste-based murder?


perhaps I should compare stabbing kids to death shall I it seems to be your fave hobby
 
perhaps I should compare stabbing kids to death shall I it seems to be your fave hobby

Stick to the thread topic. :wave:

This thread is about the Indian Caste System and the Dalits.

Have you even watched the documentary?
 
I notice in the video that Dalits have very dark skin, on par with Africans? Is this how they identify them?

But then 80% of Indians have their same skin colour, so how can you tell the difference between an Indian and a Dalit?
 

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