Car bomb kills five in Quetta

[Rafi]

We've all got to realize that these are the same "Muslims" that wage "Jihad" in Afghanistan that are responsible for these attacks inside Pakistan. It is sad when some people here praise these attackers when they kill in Afghanistan, but then condemn these very same people when they do such things inside Pakistan. This "Jihadi" mentality needs to be rooted out. F*ck these terrorists, may the rot in hell!

These turds aren't Muslim, you have to be human first.

 

[DV RULES]

WTF, stupid Bas****, not even leaving it on Eid day, these people should be hanged in public for all i care. Really sad.

What do you mean by "not even leaving it on Eid day" ? They have no sense this is EID, JUMAA or NATIONAL DAY. They are animals and they should be punished till death.

RIP to dead

 

[53fd]

As someone who's been to Quetta quite a few times in my life, it pains me to see how security has been neglected for such an important city, one of the most significant cities in Pakistan. I guess Kandahar being so close to it, that too having a porous, non-existent border with it is going to have its effect.

 

[S.M.R]

These turds aren't Muslim, you have to be human first.

But they claim to be Muslims and following Islam. They are doing Jihad which they claim that is strictly in accordance with the preaching of Quran. Just watch the interviews of failed suicide bombers, they almost have a very simple and plain logic, they quote some aayahs about Jihad. One of them says that he doesn't even know that he is going to kill those people who are muslims.

The only way to control them is legalization of mosques / madressas. All should have govt. announced nisab, to be agreed by Islami Nazriati Council. I know there will be lot of problem as we have mullahs of derh eent ki masjid like Qasim Ali Khan etc. But whoever retaliate should land in jail.

 

[CENTCOM]

The senseless acts of violence continue even on the rejoicing day of Eid. Our condolences go out to the families of the victims. Does this latest attack not remind us that the goal of the terrorist organizations is to push Pakistan further into chaos and fear? These terrorists are responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent Pakistanis. Could we even begin to imagine the loss parents, family members, siblings and friends feel? Conspiracy theorists continue in their attempt to hide reality and mislead us into believing that the so called Mujahidin are fighting a war of liberation… by killing their own people? The real truth, dear readers, is that it is terrorists like these who target Muslim gatherings at mosques, markets, bus stations, banks, and shrines, to claim the maximum number of innocent lives. Isn’t creating mayhem and terror their only objective? Don’t the terrorists boastfully take credit for bombings without remorse? We say again… peace can only prevail when these terrorists, the enemies of humanity, are destroyed. It is being done so our coming generations does not have to live in constant fear.

CDR Bill Speaks
DET- United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

 

[Evil Flare]

Poor little Girl in New eid cloths ... bastard dont even spare her

 

[President Camacho]

I strongly feel that if the people start questioning the establishment on its prime objective to keep the people safe, it will make a big difference - for the better.

Recent reports say the TTP is weakened (Swat and FATA area) and the Haqqani group is absorbing the factions. If so, then where do these attacks come from? It is about time the Army acted morally and let go of these assets.

 

[53fd]

I strongly feel that if the people start questioning the establishment on its prime objective to keep the people safe, it will make a big difference - for the better.

Recent reports say the TTP is weakened (Swat and FATA area) and the Haqqani group is absorbing the factions. If so, then where do these attacks come from? It is about time the Army acted morally and let go of these assets.

TTP has been weakened severely, attacks have been concentrated to very specific areas, Quetta is very very close to Kandahar. What you are seeing right now is the "'leftovers' of the war inside Afghanistan": almost all the terror attacks (including this one in Quetta) are taking place close to the Afghan border. Sindh/Punjab & other parts of Pakistan have had terrorism reduced very very significantly, & the only terrorism you are seeing now is close to the Afghan border. But as Pakistan has been going at the root of the problem in the tribal areas, things in the rest of Pakistan have started to improve. Because of the porous border between Pakistan & Afghanistan, & the US not tackling the problem on the Afghan side, cross-border infiltration is high, as has been witnessed when hundreds of Afghan Taliban/TTP terrorists tried to infiltrate into Pakistan; I'm pretty sure it's a similar situation in the Quetta attack today. The problem is that all the TTP/Afghan Taliban terrorists have fled to the Afghan safe havens, which the US/NATO Forces refuse to tackle, which is why they can wage cross-border terrorism inside Pakistan with impunity. That is the heart of the problem in the whole region.

 

[53fd]

I strongly feel that if the people start questioning the establishment on its prime objective to keep the people safe, it will make a big difference - for the better.

Recent reports say the TTP is weakened (Swat and FATA area) and the Haqqani group is absorbing the factions. If so, then where do these attacks come from? It is about time the Army acted morally and let go of these assets.

I think we need to clarify this talk of Taliban being the Pakistan Army's assets. If you listen to high level US/NATO officials speak, you will see that Pakistan does not control these terrorist groups or their leaders, & they operate on their own, on their own will. These terrorists are mercenaries, who don't have any loyalties to anyone, not the US, not Pakistan, not anyone. They have shifting loyalties, & have been used by different "parties" over the years. They don't have any loyalty to religion either: they are ready to kill innocent Muslims, people praying in mosques, on Ramazan & Eid. So these people are mercenaries, not saviors of Islam, not resistance forces against the US, not anything; & don't have loyalty to anything except power: that's the truth.

The US/NATO Forces need to collaborate with Pakistan, not make Pakistan center stage, pushing all the Afghan terror into Pakistan. The US/NATO Forces have failed to do any of that, & their lack of trust in Pakistan is harmful to everyone in the region, going as far as Russia.

 

[seekers]

Once again the HAZARAS(Shia) has been targeted by lashkar jhangvi lanat ullah. I have met one Hazara who was going to open new garment shop in their own community area. He mentioned me that Hazaras are the no.1 target of terrorist in Quetta, so we are opening all commodities shops in their own Hazara town. They are going to isolate them from other public for security of their life and property. Hazaras features make them identify in public and target by lashkar jhangvi lanat ullah.

 

[President Camacho]

I think we need to clarify this talk of Taliban being the Pakistan Army's assets. If you listen to high level US/NATO officials speak, you will see that Pakistan does not control these terrorist groups or their leaders, & they operate on their own, on their own will. These terrorists are mercenaries, who don't have any loyalties to anyone, not the US, not Pakistan, not anyone. They have shifting loyalties, & have been used by different "parties" over the years. They don't have any loyalty to religion either: they are ready to kill innocent Muslims, people praying in mosques, on Ramazan & Eid. So these people are mercenaries, not saviors of Islam, not resistance forces against the US, not anything; & don't have loyalty to anything except power: that's the truth.

The US/NATO Forces need to collaborate with Pakistan, not make Pakistan center stage, pushing all the Afghan terror into Pakistan. The US/NATO Forces have failed to do any of that, & their lack of trust in Pakistan is harmful to everyone in the region, going as far as Russia.

Okay, take it like this - This is a covert war. There will be no hardcore proof or admission by any party supporting any particular terrorist group involved. But you see, the Pakistani Army has been going after all the terrorists in the area (Swat + FATA), but has flatly refused to go offensive on the Haqqani's.

Army's Assets:

What is it that makes the Haqqani group so holy? It is known to all that the Haqqani group has been collaborating with the TTP to raid the supplies and attack the Armies inside, as well as outside Pakistan. They have been collaborating for quite a while already, and only recently the Haqqani group is said to have been distancing itself from the TTP for the reason that the TTP attacks civilians. Well, it has been attacking civilians for eons. Haqqani group came to see it just now? In the international journals, the Haqqani group is called the darling of the ISI.

Infiltration from Afghanistan:

Also, the call you are making, that they are infiltrating from Afghanistan, is very similar to numerous calls made by the Afghans and the NATO that the terrorists are infiltrating from Pakistan area and the PA is not doing anything. It happened for a long time, followed by a lot of bitter confrontations between the Pakistani Army and the NATO/American forces. Now the tables are turned. The Terrorists run into Pakistan, but not vice versa.

Collaboration with (Read: Contribution of) the Pakistani Army:

I have cited a particular incident many times in this forum, so I won't anymore over here... but just know what happened: The American forces went after the terrorists. The terrorists ran into Pakistan - through a border checkpost manned by the Pakistani Army. Shots were exchanged. No terrorists died, or so was reported. But heard of some casualties on Pakistani side. Entire group of the terrorists vanished into Pakistan.

Next day, confrontations. Oil tankers lighted. Supplies halted.

The terrorists raiding the Pakistani side from Afghanistan is a very recent phenomenon. Earlier it was the other way round. But it does not mean that the Americans or the NATO is facilitating that infiltration. It simply means that it is tougher for them (the terrorists) to be in Afghanistan now, and Pakistan appears much safer for them to conduct their business.

It is KPK, that had been turned into a massive terrorist factory in the name of Jihad, and no one bothered to dismantle it after the job was done. Besides, it is still too lucrative to dismantle it anyway.

 

[53fd]

Okay, take it like this - This is a covert war. There will be no hardcore proof or admission by any party supporting any particular terrorist group involved. But you see, the Pakistani Army has been going after all the terrorists in the area (Swat + FATA), but has flatly refused to go offensive on the Haqqani's.

Army's Assets:

What is it that makes the Haqqani group so holy? It is known to all that the Haqqani group has been collaborating with the TTP to raid the supplies and attack the Armies inside, as well as outside Pakistan. They have been collaborating for quite a while already, and only recently the Haqqani group is said to have distancing itself from the TTP for the reason that the TTP attacks civilians. Well, it has been attacking civilians for eons. Haqqani group came to see it just now? In the international journals, the Haqqani group is called the darling of the ISI.

Most papers are based on hearsay speculation & baseless propaganda than any hard facts. Let's talk about facts. The TTP/Al-Qaeda has basically fled away from Pakistan to safe havens in Afghanistan, where they attack Pakistan with impunity with the blessings of the US/NATO Forces/ANA. Let's talk some more specific facts: Mehsuds, Molvi Faqir Mohammed, Abdul Wali, Qari Zia Rehman, Mangal Bagh of Lashkr-e-Islam, Maulana Fazlullah, Mullah Nazir & others have got refuge in Kunar & parts of Nuristan.

The Haqqani network operates in North Waziristan & the adjacent Khost province in Afghanistan. But they are being dealt with in North Waziristan with the drone strikes program.

Infiltration from Afghanistan:

Also, the call you are making, that they are infiltrating from Afghanistan, is very similar to numerous calls made by the Afghans and the NATO that the terrorists are infiltrating from Pakistan area and the PA is not doing anything. It happened for a long time, followed by a lot of bitter confrontations between the Pakistani Army and the NATO/American forces. Now the tables are turned. The Terrorists run into Pakistan, but not vice versa.

The difference between infiltration from the Afghanistan side comes from the fact that the US/NATO Forces deliberately abandoned their outposts, & let the Taliban/Al-Qaeda terrorists recapture those areas. The difference in infiltration is that hundreds of Afghan terrorists (ranging from 300-600 or more at the same time, repeatedly for days), with the blessings of the US/NATO/US Forces, easily try to infiltrate into Pakistan with no resistance from the ANA/US/NATO Forces.

Most of the stuff you have cited here is nothing but wild speculation with no semblance to reality to it. What I am quoting you are the hard facts, based on news reports accepted by the mainstream international media & everyone else, established facts of events that have taken place, not the hearsay of certain think tanks.

I suggest you look at this table to get a better understanding on the on-ground events in Afghanistan, & where the real trouble lies: