sparklingway
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Neither do I normally believe in conspiracies, nor under any exceptional circumstances. Raising fingers is pointless at this time and conspiracy theories are the hallmark of interweb losers who have nothing better to do.
Before this guy and Headley, there weren't any Pakistanis in the US caught in major terrorist plots as far as I remember (Aimal Kansi was a Pakistani citizen when he committed his acts). Previous attacks on the US have been the products of Arab and Yemenis mostly. There might have been a Pakistani before, but I don't remember.
Well, there is the usual conspiracies but have we ever been judgmental about the militants that we arrest daily in the tribal areas or around everywhere else? When they say that he was accepted charges, I believe that he has accepted charges. Transparency is the key to a fair trial. The US, like all other developed countries, releases names of alleged, accused and arrested militants, and details of events as soon as they catch them. I do not need reminders of counter claims of Guantanamo victims denied trial rights before the Combatant Status Review Tribunals were started (which are inhumane nonetheless), for they are inapplicable in this case and transparency in general is glaring and sweeping compared to us.
Our policies of deliberate ambiguity, exaggerated secrecy and lack of transparency are aimed at exercising authority by controlling information from the public. Neither does the state carry out public trials of alleged and accused militants nor does it release much details about prosecutions.
For example, on September 10, 2009 the spokesman for the Swat Taliban, Muslim Khan, was nabbed by security forces along with a number of other Taliban commanders. Today it has been 237 days since his arrest, longer than seven months since he was captured and he has not been produced before any court of law. On January 31, 2010 a special Anti Terrorism Court in Malakand Division declared Muslim Khan among others to be a Proclaimed Offender (PO) and issued arrest warrants for all accused. It has been 95 days since that happened. None of the main accused has ever been produced before a court of law. Where is justice, where is the rule of law? All of these accused are being kept in the custody of security forces and intelligence agencies. Interrogating and torturing them will further bear no fruit. It’s time the legal system makes an example out of them. Our culture where might is indeed the right has proliferated too wide and for too long. If we cannot even conduct a fair trial of these terrorists, how can we claim to provide justice to ordinary people? By dealing with everything outside the law, we have nourished a culture of lawlessness.
States worldwide make examples out of terrorists. Timothy McVeigh’s trial was a media spectacle and so was Richard Reid’s. India makes headlines every fortnight or so when Ajmal Kasab or his lawyer appears before courts. In our case, these terrorists lay in some interrogation rooms in extrajudicial remands. Under the Anti-Terrorism Amendment Ordinance (2009), even extra judicial confessions have become admissible in ATCs. What more do our law enforcement agencies want?
Muslim Khan, and all known terrorists must be produced before courts of law as soon as possible and their trials be covered widely so as to let the people know about the height of brutality and inhumanity that these terrorists preached. Any sympathizers will definitely be horrified when they know the reality of the crimes committed by these terrorists. Judicial expediency does not demand denying anybody the right to a fair trial. It is time the our society learns the virtues of the respect of law and starts dealing with everything under legalized procedures. Do you get my point?
This situation is certainly bad press for us. Already the British are sick of British-Pakistanis creating havoc on their soil (besides them wrongly catching a few), now the Americans will jump furiously on the backs of Pakistanis more than they are already.
Also, there is no evidence yet to support that his wife was "loving" or he was a happily married guy. While his wife could have left to live in Karachi for a number of reasons, we can speculate that the marriage might have been in trouble. Having a facebook page is no indicator of not being a terrorist (I'm pretty sure pictures are from an Orkut page not Facebook). Serial killers have been found in more than one case to be socially active and friendly. Reculsivity is not necessary to become a terrorist or a mass murderer. I remember reading about a Russian or East European serial killer who used to go to a bar after he committed his murders and would celebrate all night.
Before this guy and Headley, there weren't any Pakistanis in the US caught in major terrorist plots as far as I remember (Aimal Kansi was a Pakistani citizen when he committed his acts). Previous attacks on the US have been the products of Arab and Yemenis mostly. There might have been a Pakistani before, but I don't remember.
Well, there is the usual conspiracies but have we ever been judgmental about the militants that we arrest daily in the tribal areas or around everywhere else? When they say that he was accepted charges, I believe that he has accepted charges. Transparency is the key to a fair trial. The US, like all other developed countries, releases names of alleged, accused and arrested militants, and details of events as soon as they catch them. I do not need reminders of counter claims of Guantanamo victims denied trial rights before the Combatant Status Review Tribunals were started (which are inhumane nonetheless), for they are inapplicable in this case and transparency in general is glaring and sweeping compared to us.
Our policies of deliberate ambiguity, exaggerated secrecy and lack of transparency are aimed at exercising authority by controlling information from the public. Neither does the state carry out public trials of alleged and accused militants nor does it release much details about prosecutions.
For example, on September 10, 2009 the spokesman for the Swat Taliban, Muslim Khan, was nabbed by security forces along with a number of other Taliban commanders. Today it has been 237 days since his arrest, longer than seven months since he was captured and he has not been produced before any court of law. On January 31, 2010 a special Anti Terrorism Court in Malakand Division declared Muslim Khan among others to be a Proclaimed Offender (PO) and issued arrest warrants for all accused. It has been 95 days since that happened. None of the main accused has ever been produced before a court of law. Where is justice, where is the rule of law? All of these accused are being kept in the custody of security forces and intelligence agencies. Interrogating and torturing them will further bear no fruit. It’s time the legal system makes an example out of them. Our culture where might is indeed the right has proliferated too wide and for too long. If we cannot even conduct a fair trial of these terrorists, how can we claim to provide justice to ordinary people? By dealing with everything outside the law, we have nourished a culture of lawlessness.
States worldwide make examples out of terrorists. Timothy McVeigh’s trial was a media spectacle and so was Richard Reid’s. India makes headlines every fortnight or so when Ajmal Kasab or his lawyer appears before courts. In our case, these terrorists lay in some interrogation rooms in extrajudicial remands. Under the Anti-Terrorism Amendment Ordinance (2009), even extra judicial confessions have become admissible in ATCs. What more do our law enforcement agencies want?
Muslim Khan, and all known terrorists must be produced before courts of law as soon as possible and their trials be covered widely so as to let the people know about the height of brutality and inhumanity that these terrorists preached. Any sympathizers will definitely be horrified when they know the reality of the crimes committed by these terrorists. Judicial expediency does not demand denying anybody the right to a fair trial. It is time the our society learns the virtues of the respect of law and starts dealing with everything under legalized procedures. Do you get my point?
This situation is certainly bad press for us. Already the British are sick of British-Pakistanis creating havoc on their soil (besides them wrongly catching a few), now the Americans will jump furiously on the backs of Pakistanis more than they are already.
Also, there is no evidence yet to support that his wife was "loving" or he was a happily married guy. While his wife could have left to live in Karachi for a number of reasons, we can speculate that the marriage might have been in trouble. Having a facebook page is no indicator of not being a terrorist (I'm pretty sure pictures are from an Orkut page not Facebook). Serial killers have been found in more than one case to be socially active and friendly. Reculsivity is not necessary to become a terrorist or a mass murderer. I remember reading about a Russian or East European serial killer who used to go to a bar after he committed his murders and would celebrate all night.
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