Capital Talk - Imran Khan, Brian Katulis

[mr42O]

 

[mr42O]

Every thing he says is correct. If we had listen to him we would not had been here

 

[Panditji]

Go through the complete clip - You will find Imran talking through both his ends -

When talking about Taliban and US forces, he says "that region contains 1.5 million people with weapons - how is the US going to win and contain them", and just next minute, hoping that the TV audience memory is short, he says about the threat of Taliban taking over Pakistan "How can Taliban take over Pakistan? There are 700,0000 army personnel in Pakistan, and the Talibans are just 10 to 15 thousand".

He should make up his own mind first, and then open his mouth. Otherwise with leaders like this, Pakistan is sure to land right in the middle of nowhere.

 

[TOMHAWK]

Imran Khan is known for making statements and comments on TV....he is a hypocrat...on one hand he stands for democracy and on the other hand he supported govt's peace deal with Taliban....now how can anyone trust him??...also what has he done till date ever since he has become a politician??He and his party have failed miserably in pakistan....he is using the media to be in the limelight and the media uses him for it's TRP..that's all

 

[mr42O]

Go through the complete clip - You will find Imran talking through both his ends -

When talking about Taliban and US forces, he says "that region contains 1.5 million people with weapons - how is the US going to win and contain them", and just next minute, hoping that the TV audience memory is short, he says about the threat of Taliban taking over Pakistan "How can Taliban take over Pakistan? There are 700,0000 army personnel in Pakistan, and the Talibans are just 10 to 15 thousand".

He should make up his own mind first, and then open his mouth. Otherwise with leaders like this, Pakistan is sure to land right in the middle of nowhere.

AREA he is talking about have tradion to have alot of guns and dont like to be ruled by any one. Imran khan is talking about those 1,5mill. Not all are terrorists but they will fight any one who try to **** with them.

 

[Slides]

AREA he is talking about have tradion to have alot of guns and dont like to be ruled by any one. Imran khan is talking about those 1,5mill. Not all are terrorists but they will fight any one who try to **** with them.

They didn't seems to fight against the ttp/uzbek barbarians when they were butchering the locals.

Imran khan is confused.

 

[FireFighter]

Go through the complete clip - You will find Imran talking through both his ends -

When talking about Taliban and US forces, he says "that region contains 1.5 million people with weapons - how is the US going to win and contain them", and just next minute, hoping that the TV audience memory is short, he says about the threat of Taliban taking over Pakistan "How can Taliban take over Pakistan? There are 700,0000 army personnel in Pakistan, and the Talibans are just 10 to 15 thousand".

He should make up his own mind first, and then open his mouth. Otherwise with leaders like this, Pakistan is sure to land right in the middle of nowhere.

You're confusing between Afghan Taliban comprising of the Pashtuns excess of a million and the TTP based in Pakistan 10-15k in numbers. two distinct groups.

I understand english is not your first language but first listen carefully what he says before commenting.

 

[Panditji]

AREA he is talking about have tradion to have alot of guns and dont like to be ruled by any one. Imran khan is talking about those 1,5mill. Not all are terrorists but they will fight any one who try to **** with them.

420, you did not notice the deception by Imran there - when talking about futility of US operations, he counts the entire population against them, but when discussing PA enemies, he falls back on the smaller number. Why would the US kill innocents? They won't, so the fight is against the same number of deranged militants/terrorists. But Imran would like to talk down the US and it's might, but would want to project PA as in supreme control.
Disingenuous indeed. But it slipped your attention.

 

[Ahmad]

You're confusing between Afghan Taliban comprising of the Pashtuns excess of a million and the TTP based in Pakistan 10-15k in numbers. two distinct groups.

I understand english is not your first language but first listen carefully what he says before commenting.

How can you say they are in miliion or over? by the way they are not 2 disticnt groups, they are helping each other out all the time. and dont forget the Haqani network in Waziristan.

 

[Comet]

420, you did not notice the deception by Imran there - when talking about futility of US operations, he counts the entire population against them, but when discussing PA enemies, he falls back on the smaller number. Why would the US kill innocents? They won't, so the fight is against the same number of deranged militants/terrorists. But Imran would like to talk down the US and it's might, but would want to project PA as in supreme control.
Disingenuous indeed. But it slipped your attention.

No no, he is talking about Afghanistan and Pakistan. US forces are up against Afghanis who are fighting under Taliban Umbrella. They are fighting purely a defensive war and trying to get rid of the occupying forces. They have no intention of attacking another country and taking over it.
On the other hand the TTP that is fighting PA is made up of 10-15k people. It is a group that is not trying to save there homes, but trying to impose there laws in Pakistan by taking over it.

 

[BlackSonic]

No no, he is talking about Afghanistan and Pakistan. US forces are up against Afghanis who are fighting under Taliban Umbrella. They are fighting purely a defensive war and trying to get rid of the occupying forces. They have no intention of attacking another country and taking over it.
On the other hand the TTP that is fighting PA is made up of 10-15k people. It is a group that is not trying to save there homes, but trying to impose there laws in Pakistan by taking over it.

What TTP is trying to do in Pakistan is the same thing which Afghanis who are fighting under Taliban umbrella or whatever want to do in Afghanistan. i.e. 'trying to impose their laws in Afghanistan by taking over it.' Ofcourse neither TTP nor Taiban has any intention of taking over any other country.

Stop differentiating any terrorist group. You consider TTP a terrorist group but all the other terrorist groups in other countries are freedom fighters who are trying to get rid or occupying forces, whether it be Kashmir or Afghan. Pakistan cannot win this fight unless you understand that there is not much difference in TTP or taliban or other terror groups operating anywhere in the world.

 

[Comet]

What TTP is trying to do in Pakistan is the same thing which Afghanis who are fighting under Taliban umbrella or whatever want to do in Afghanistan. i.e. 'trying to impose their laws in Afghanistan by taking over it.' Ofcourse neither TTP nor Taiban has any intention of taking over any other country.

Stop differentiating any terrorist group. You consider TTP a terrorist group but all the other terrorist groups in other countries are freedom fighters who are trying to get rid or occupying forces, whether it be Kashmir or Afghan. Pakistan cannot win this fight unless you understand that there is not much difference in TTP or taliban or other terror groups operating anywhere in the world.

Well I have to differentiate if there is a difference.
How did you find Afghan Taliban terrorist? I can't recall the last time Taliban did something bad with India. Don't you know about the other groups in Afghanistan fighting with Taliban for power. Don't you find them ruthless and barbaric? Since they are tilted towards India so they become friendly?

Afghan Taliban were unable to hold all the Afghanistan before 9-11 Now, they have enough power to hold provinces despite the fact that there is American and NATO presence in the country. For me, Taliban today are not the old Taliban. The definition has changed. These people are fighting for their country. Mark my word, the day US leaves Afghanistan Taliban will again be at same power as they were before 9-11. The people fighting for Afghanistan are not all Taliban by definition.

 

[PakShaheen79]

What TTP is trying to do in Pakistan is the same thing which Afghanis who are fighting under Taliban umbrella or whatever want to do in Afghanistan. i.e. 'trying to impose their laws in Afghanistan by taking over it.' Ofcourse neither TTP nor Taiban has any intention of taking over any other country.

Stop differentiating any terrorist group. You consider TTP a terrorist group but all the other terrorist groups in other countries are freedom fighters who are trying to get rid or occupying forces, whether it be Kashmir or Afghan. Pakistan cannot win this fight unless you understand that there is not much difference in TTP or taliban or other terror groups operating anywhere in the world.

Unfortunately TTP's cover of using Islam and Sharia has been exposed and all prominent Islamic Scholors have declared there actions as Haram. TTP only fighting against Pakistan otherwise quote me one single incident in last 8 years where TTP attacked US forces in Afghanistan.

As far war in Afghanistan is concerned... I think it is you who need to check Afghan history a bit. Doesn't matter how much Afghan fights each otehr whenever there is a FOREIGN invasion they come togather and that perhaps the reason why US / NATO are in a fix. Whole thrust is on Taliban but what about Hikmatyar's Hizb-e-Islami? who happened to be an enemy of Taliban previously.

Terrorist Groups. Hmmm let's look into this.

US occupied Afghanistan and Taliban are fighting against them. You want to call them terrorist? Go ahead... no sane person will take it.
Now tell me what is rationale of TTP fighting against Pakistan? Pakistan army hasn't occupied anyone's country.

 

[Ahmad]

Well I have to differentiate if there is a difference.
How did you find Afghan Taliban terrorist? I can't recall the last time Taliban did something bad with India. Don't you know about the other groups in Afghanistan fighting with Taliban for power. Don't you find them ruthless and barbaric? Since they are tilted towards India so they become friendly?

they are terrorist because they kill their own people and destroy afghanistan. just today we had another blast in kabul killing 8 civilians and injuring more than 40. Whoelse is fighting in Afghanistan for power? i dont know anybody.

Afghan Taliban were unable to hold all the Afghanistan before 9-11 Now, they have enough power to hold provinces despite the fact that there is American and NATO presence in the country. For me, Taliban today are not the old Taliban. The definition has changed. These people are fighting for their country. Mark my word, the day US leaves Afghanistan Taliban will again be at same power as they were before 9-11. The people fighting for Afghanistan are not all Taliban by definition.

They are not controlling provinces, but they might have some isolated bases such as in Kunar. And calling them freedom fighters will be nothing but a big joke. How come they be freedom fighter while they are the servents of paksitan and serving pakistan's interests? you cant wash dirt with dirt.

 

[Panditji]

How did you find Afghan Taliban terrorist? I can't recall the last time Taliban did something bad with India. Don't you know about the other groups in Afghanistan fighting with Taliban for power. Don't you find them ruthless and barbaric? Since they are tilted towards India so they become friendly?

Afghan Taliban were unable to hold all the Afghanistan before 9-11 Now, they have enough power to hold provinces despite the fact that there is American and NATO presence in the country. For me, Taliban today are not the old Taliban. The definition has changed. These people are fighting for their country. Mark my word, the day US leaves Afghanistan Taliban will again be at same power as they were before 9-11. The people fighting for Afghanistan are not all Taliban by definition.

Kandahar - Allowing safe passage to known terrorists lodged in Indian Jails. Was that a favor to India?

Who is bombing Indian Embassies in Afghanistan? Does that not count as act of terrorism?

Talibans hanged Najib from a lamp post (or whatever that was). Do we see that barbarism in others?

If ever Taliban (re)gain power in Afghanistan, it would be because of the warped 'strategic interests of and help from Pakistan. Average Afghani would lothe them.