Good, put some pressure on them. Meng Wanzhou was reportedly laughing and upbeat last time she appeared in court, maybe she knows she'll be ok. In any case, she was supposed to be next leader of Huawei, they probably searched as hard as they could to find some way to arrest her.
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The American are playing with fire. Now the Canadian gets burn.. Don't say China never warn you.
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When being bullied, I won't waste time to THINK and TALK but FIGHT BACK.
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I think China and everybody is missing something important. Something really important.
The allegation is the key to every solution and every problems. The problem is about Iran. If China bow to US demands on Iran, surely Meng will be released. Therefore, China should make some concession at this point, and stop trading with Iran to save Meng.
The allegation is the key to every solution and every problems. The problem is about Iran. If China bow to US demands on Iran, surely Meng will be released. Therefore, China should make some concession at this point, and stop trading with Iran to save Meng.
That is you. When comes dealing in world scene and international politics. Emotion and individual aside. Good country makes the best move and not the fastest response.
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Do you know something called "pretext"?
Its not about Iran but the real threat of Huawei. Why target Huawei top management? Huawei will setup the real 5G before anyone. Huawei is challenging US computer chip industries by introducing world first 7nm cpu chips. This is a real threat to US dominate in technology level. Not even Japan dare to venture there but Chinese.
It's not really about Iran, it's just a justification to fight against Huawei.
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Meng is not a citizen of the US and she is not obligated to follow the US law as long as she didn't stand on the land of the US. And there is no international sanction against Iran at all.
With all that said, Meng didn't violate any law. Canada, a dog of the US, obeyed the order to kidnap Meng. The US has the right of jurisdiction on the land of Canada. Canada is also a victim of such childish move.
The fastest response sends the strongest message since the response is the same.
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Its Qualcomm 6 days ago just announce world first 7 nm chips, not Huawei? Am I missing something here?
No. I really think it is about Iran. It's not just Huawei. Many Chinese Government Companies are doing business in Iran. Surely this pissed the U.S (I don't know why). But everybody knows Nicky act on Iran issues. May be you could confirm this on Mid East section.
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Huawei is not a chipmaker. Huawei is a telecommunication equipment manufacturer, rival of America's Cisco and Sweden's Ericsson. Though lately Huawei is expanding into mobile phone and semi-conductor industry.
Iran sanction is just a pretext, there are hundreds of Chinese companies doing business with Iran. This kidnapping fiasco is an under-handed tactic to influence the ongoing trade discussion, using the hostage as a bargaining chip. It's also part of US effort to rattle Made in China2025 initiative. Huawei leads the world in 5G network.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ad-global-charge-to-5g-networks-idUSKCN1G70MV
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Huawei and Apple introduced their 7nm chips manufactured by TSMC a couple month ago already.
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That's Chinese weakness. Too tolerant, a sign of weakness in the west.
Spoken like a true coward.
The principle is the same, either react or make excuses.
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China holds legitimacy in detaining two Canadians
Source:Global Times Published: 2018/12/13
One day after former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig was detained in Beijing, China announced on Thursday that a second Canadian businessman, Michael Spavor, is likewise being investigated over "activities that endanger China's national security".
Both men were detained following the arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou in Canada although China mentioned no connection between them. Canada also said there was currently no "explicit indication" of any link. Nonetheless, international media outlets as well as Chinese public opinion consider the detentions to be retaliation by Beijing.
The current situation is delicate among China, the US and Canada. Washington and Ottawa suppressed Huawei with their familiar legal weapons, clothing the outrageous move under the pretext of seemingly perfect legal procedure.
Washington and Ottawa obviously want to dominate this game. Their unspoken words are that detainment of Canadian citizens in China has to be conducted in a system as open and transparent as theirs, for instance, through holding bail hearings. They know well it's difficult to do so in China which has different legal system and information disclosure channel from them. Communication is therefore hard to be formed.
However, there is no doubt that Beijing is entitled to arrest Canadians under Chinese law. Due to their strong capabilities in demonstrating legal process and influencing public opinion, the US and Canada beautified their move as law enforcement, while China's arrests appeared to be awkward. This is the price of China's lack of modern governance.
It is conceivable that some Western media will be biased, but China's national interests are as significant as those of other countries and must be defended. A sophisticated legal system and powerful public opinion do not necessarily lead to justice. Common sense tells us that it is legitimate for China to investigate two Canadians in accordance with the law, no matter what information the Chinese security department makes public, and regardless of public opinion speculation.
The arrest of Meng caused a serious impact on the international order for business competition, which is nowadays a most precious resource around the world. When some people from Western countries accused China of damaging such order, we want to ask, which case is more destructive?
Western commentators should honestly ask themselves which one, between the US and China, has broken more international rules and ignited the planet in recent years?
The Chinese system is very different from that of the US, and so is the comparison between developing and developed Western countries. International order is based on mutual respect between countries, not challenging each other's bottom line. The domestic laws of the US and Canada are not a guideline for everyone.
China is a self-disciplined big country that treasures peaceful ties with the Western world. These countries, including the US and its allies, should act accordingly, valuing China's core interests and bottom line.
It is quite simple to end the crisis between China and Canada by giving back Meng's complete freedom. China will investigate the two detained Canadians in accordance with laws, and their primary rights will be guaranteed during the process.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1131782.shtml
Source:Global Times Published: 2018/12/13
One day after former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig was detained in Beijing, China announced on Thursday that a second Canadian businessman, Michael Spavor, is likewise being investigated over "activities that endanger China's national security".
Both men were detained following the arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou in Canada although China mentioned no connection between them. Canada also said there was currently no "explicit indication" of any link. Nonetheless, international media outlets as well as Chinese public opinion consider the detentions to be retaliation by Beijing.
The current situation is delicate among China, the US and Canada. Washington and Ottawa suppressed Huawei with their familiar legal weapons, clothing the outrageous move under the pretext of seemingly perfect legal procedure.
Washington and Ottawa obviously want to dominate this game. Their unspoken words are that detainment of Canadian citizens in China has to be conducted in a system as open and transparent as theirs, for instance, through holding bail hearings. They know well it's difficult to do so in China which has different legal system and information disclosure channel from them. Communication is therefore hard to be formed.
However, there is no doubt that Beijing is entitled to arrest Canadians under Chinese law. Due to their strong capabilities in demonstrating legal process and influencing public opinion, the US and Canada beautified their move as law enforcement, while China's arrests appeared to be awkward. This is the price of China's lack of modern governance.
It is conceivable that some Western media will be biased, but China's national interests are as significant as those of other countries and must be defended. A sophisticated legal system and powerful public opinion do not necessarily lead to justice. Common sense tells us that it is legitimate for China to investigate two Canadians in accordance with the law, no matter what information the Chinese security department makes public, and regardless of public opinion speculation.
The arrest of Meng caused a serious impact on the international order for business competition, which is nowadays a most precious resource around the world. When some people from Western countries accused China of damaging such order, we want to ask, which case is more destructive?
Western commentators should honestly ask themselves which one, between the US and China, has broken more international rules and ignited the planet in recent years?
The Chinese system is very different from that of the US, and so is the comparison between developing and developed Western countries. International order is based on mutual respect between countries, not challenging each other's bottom line. The domestic laws of the US and Canada are not a guideline for everyone.
China is a self-disciplined big country that treasures peaceful ties with the Western world. These countries, including the US and its allies, should act accordingly, valuing China's core interests and bottom line.
It is quite simple to end the crisis between China and Canada by giving back Meng's complete freedom. China will investigate the two detained Canadians in accordance with laws, and their primary rights will be guaranteed during the process.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1131782.shtml
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