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Canada eyes arms sales to Pakistan

FAISAL MAHMOOD/REUTERS

MacKay talks of lifting embargo on military gear as war on Taliban overshadows nuclear misdeeds

May 20, 2009 04:30 AM

Rick Westhead
South Asia bureau

ISLAMABAD–Canada is considering ending its 11-year embargo on the sale of military technology to a nuclear-armed Pakistan, Defence Minister Peter MacKay says.

The development comes as Pakistan's army prepares to take its fight against Taliban militants into the tribal region bordering Afghanistan.

In a telephone interview from Islamabad, MacKay, who this week called Pakistan the "most dangerous country in the world," said he's impressed with Pakistan's resolve in taking on the Taliban.

"Doing military business in the future, and trade in particular, is something that is under consideration," MacKay said after meeting with Pakistani President Asif Zardari.

However, he added, "We're not there yet."

Canada cut off military supplies to Pakistan in 1998 after it conducted a nuclear weapons test in response to one carried out by neighbouring India.

Concern over Pakistan's illegal and surreptitious move into the nuclear arms club was underlined by news that one of its leading physicists, A.Q. Khan, had sold nuclear secrets in the 1990s to such countries as North Korea and Libya.

That contributed to the continuation of Canada's military embargo and prompted similar actions from other Western countries.

Kamran Bokhari, of the global intelligence firm Stratfor, says "Pakistan has used the situation in Swat (where it is battling the Taliban) skilfully. It has been saying, `If you want us to get the job done you have to give us the tools.' It makes perfect sense for Canada, with troops in Kandahar, to do what it takes."

But experts warn Pakistan continues to be a volatile country.

Its nuclear facilities are spread out in secret places around the country; its fight with the Taliban is forcing hundreds of thousands of civilians to flee the Swat Valley; the war in neighbouring Afghanistan is spilling over the border; and there remains uncertainty that Zardari is in full control, particularly over the country's nuclear arms. All these factors contribute to the sense of Pakistan's instability.

MacKay says Pakistan is doing its best to eradicate the Taliban.

"They are certainly a government that's taking control of this situation," MacKay told the Star. "Quite frankly, this is what the international community, including Canada, had been asking them to do all along."

Pakistan would like the chance to purchase Canadian products such as flight simulators, night-vision goggles and unmanned drones.

As Pakistani soldiers continued to pound Taliban fighters yesterday in towns in the Swat region, some 100 kilometres from the capital, MacKay said Canada would consider requests from Pakistan to buy Canadian military products.

"It would be hard to envision Canada (lifting the embargo) without getting the Americans to sign off on it," said Bokhari.

"The U.S. wants to keep up the pressure on Pakistan, but it doesn't want it to sink in the process. This way every side would get something."

Hilary Homes, a campaigner for Amnesty International in Canada, said the organization "has very serious concerns about the human rights situation in Pakistan, including the conduct of security forces, so we would be concerned about any transfer of military or security equipment of any kind."

One Western diplomat said if Canada decides to end its arms embargo with Pakistan "there's the concern over whether Canadian-made weapons could be used for human-rights abuses and there's the concern that they could end in the wrong hands."

While some American lawmakers accuse Zardari's government of corruption and ineffectiveness, the U.S. has pledged nearly $3 billion a year for anti-insurgency military aid over the next five years, on top of $1.5 billion in non-military aid.

Yesterday, the U.S. offered Pakistan $110 million to help the thousands of civilians driven from their homes by fighting.

The White House said $100 million would be for humanitarian aid such as food, tents, radios, generators and other items and that the U.S. Defence Department would give a further $10 million in unspecified assistance.

MacKay said Canada will restart a training program for Pakistani officers that was also shelved after Pakistan's 1998 nuclear test.

As many as 10 senior Pakistani officers a year would be eligible to attend the Canadian military's staff college or the Pearson Peacekeeping Centre in Cornwallis, N.S., or similar military courses.

"Isolation has not worked," MacKay said. "There was great interest to reconnect."

MacKay also said he urged Pakistan to be mindful of civilian casualties, which could "quickly turn the population against these operations.

" Let's be frank, there is an insidious nature in what the Taliban, and terrorists in other conflicts, have done in putting themselves in positions knowing full well civilians would be affected," he said.

With files from Olivia Ward
 
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What is the real effect of lifting an embargo from Canada? Net, it is zero. Pakistan are going about this night vision goggles as if they were not available from multiple suppliers, it's very confusing to me.

It's too bad but it seems that so long as Pakistan's economy is a basket case none of these kinds of these lhings can be meaningful.
 
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^^ LOLZ same thought here. Canada hasn't got much to offer to Pakistan in defence. Well, they could be helpful in providing assistance in building nuclear reactors which is obviously very unlikely. Other than that, thanks, but no thanks.
 
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well after all every country has a right to impress upon pakistan;)
they have to tell us how big favour they are doin to us and without that we will not survive...
'sanctions havent worked'... lolz.. those sanctions screwed our economy in 90s so wat else were they expactin. tomorrow again there will be sanctions and after a dacade they will say the very same thing.
 
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i dont get this night goggles stuff, back in in 1997-98, when i went under NCC at Formanite christian college(FCC) lahore. we were taken to the country site to a firring range facility. at that time the major of that area cant remeber name showed us different gadgets which included the night vission goggles- where i can still remember that on inquirng, major told me that two person wearing these goggles cant see towards each other becz it would create a light splash when the razes omitting from goggles collide.

he also told me that pakistan is making them on their own. now i dont get this what was that? n what is going on today?

canada, under the umberalla of USA can provide us unmanned aircrafts, it could serve the purpose as Israel under USA is to india ;), savy- but we have a long way to go , light at the end of the tunnel
 
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There isn't anything that I be delighted for. Canada isn't the right country whom we be seeking future supplies of weaponry. They regard us the volatile country yet we must realise that Canadian help itself is volatile in nature. Furthermore, Canada is a banana state under USA & if in future we got at cross roads with USA Canada again will be reluctant to help us. My view is that Pakistan must incorporate Russia in its army balance & far from being altered USA decisions geographically Ruusia's friendship is way to important!!
 
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Islamabad makes request as it battles Taliban in Swat Valley​

By Campbell Clark And Steven Chase

May 20, 2009

OTTAWA -- Pakistan has asked Canada to lift an 11-year ban on military exports to the South Asian country as it steps up a fight at home against the Taliban, Defence Minister Peter MacKay said yesterday.

"We're contemplating that," Mr. MacKay said in an interview after meeting Pakistan's top leaders in Islamabad. "Clearly, disengagement did not work."

Canada prohibited military exports to Pakistan in May, 1998, after the country's first nuclear weapons test.

Mr. MacKay also said that he and Pakistani defence officials agreed to resume a co-operation deal, the Military Training Assistance Program. This will eventually allow Islamabad's senior officers access to Canadian military training courses.

Pakistan appears finally to have steeled itself for a sustained battle against Taliban forces in its Swat Valley and other areas, the Defence Minister said.

A heavy military offensive aimed at expelling Taliban fighters from a Swat stronghold has forced an estimated 1.5 million people from their homes. But Mr. MacKay said Pakistan did not request the help of the Canadian Forces disaster assistance response team, known as DART.

A spokesman for Pakistan's Foreign Ministry, Abdul Basit, said on Monday that his country would ask for the DART, which is designed to swoop into places that have suffered major disasters to provide medical aid and purify water.

Mr. MacKay said that although Mr. Basit was in many of his meetings with Pakistani leaders, no one asked for the disaster team; he said he suspects that is because the most pressing need is for housing, not water.

He said he got a sense that Pakistan's public and leaders are rallying behind a sustained effort to fight the Taliban inside the country - noting that he arrived in Islamabad at 4 a.m. to see a newspaper headline that read: The Nation Speaks with One Voice: Crush Them.

Pakistan has launched operations to fight Taliban insurgents before, but it has repeatedly returned to a more ambivalent stand, backing away in key areas and seeking to make internal peace deals with insurgents and pro-Taliban tribal leaders.

Canada has pledged $5-million in aid for Swat refugees, on top of a recent $3.5-million - but Pakistani legislators have asked Western nations for a far larger Marshall Plan type of aid package.

Naela Chohan, Pakistan's deputy high commissioner in Canada, said it's only fair that Ottawa lift the ban on military exports given that in 2003, it ended a similar ban for India that was imposed in response to nuclear weapons testing.

Ms. Chohan said it was "discriminatory" to maintain the ban on Pakistan-bound exports

The prohibition stayed in place during president Pervez Musharraf's term in office. The former military man, who came to power in a 1999 coup, resigned in 2008.

Ms. Chohan said Pakistan needs help to strengthen its defence forces to fight terrorism.
 
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May 20, 2009 04:30 AM
Rick Westhead
South Asia bureau

ISLAMABAD–Canada is considering ending its 11-year embargo on the sale of military technology to a nuclear-armed Pakistan, Defence Minister Peter MacKay says.

The development comes as Pakistan's army prepares to take its fight against Taliban militants into the tribal region bordering Afghanistan.

In a telephone interview from Islamabad, MacKay, who recently called Pakistan the "most dangerous country in the world," said he's impressed with Pakistan's resolve in taking on the Taliban.

"Doing military business in the future, and trade in particular, is something that is under consideration," MacKay said after meeting with Pakistani President Asif Zardari.

However, he added, "We're not there yet."

Canada cut off military supplies to Pakistan in 1998 after it conducted a nuclear weapons test in response to one carried out by neighbouring India.

Concern over Pakistan's illegal and surreptitious move into the nuclear arms club was underlined by news that one of its leading physicists, A.Q. Khan, had sold nuclear secrets in the 1990s to such countries as North Korea and Libya.

That contributed to the continuation of Canada's military embargo and prompted similar actions from other Western countries.

Kamran Bokhari, of the global intelligence firm Stratfor, says "Pakistan has used the situation in Swat (where it is battling the Taliban) skilfully. It has been saying, 'If you want us to get the job done you have to give us the tools.' It makes perfect sense for Canada, with troops in Kandahar, to do what it takes."

But experts warn Pakistan continues to be a volatile country.

Its nuclear facilities are spread out in secret places around the country; its fight with the Taliban is forcing hundreds of thousands of civilians to flee the Swat Valley; the war in neighbouring Afghanistan is spilling over the border; and there remains uncertainty that Zardari is in full control, particularly over the country's nuclear arms. All these factors contribute to the sense of Pakistan's instability.

MacKay says Pakistan is doing its best to eradicate the Taliban.

"They are certainly a government that's taking control of this situation," MacKay told the Star. "Quite frankly, this is what the international community, including Canada, had been asking them to do all along."

Pakistan would like the chance to purchase Canadian products such as flight simulators, night-vision goggles and unmanned drones.

As Pakistani soldiers continued to pound Taliban fighters yesterday in towns in the Swat region, some 100 kilometres from the capital, MacKay said Canada would consider requests from Pakistan to buy Canadian military products.

"It would be hard to envision Canada (lifting the embargo) without getting the Americans to sign off on it," said Bokhari.

"The U.S. wants to keep up the pressure on Pakistan, but it doesn't want it to sink in the process. This way every side would get something."

Hilary Homes, a campaigner for Amnesty International in Canada, said the organization "has very serious concerns about the human rights situation in Pakistan, including the conduct of security forces, so we would be concerned about any transfer of military or security equipment of any kind."

One Western diplomat said if Canada decides to end its arms embargo with Pakistan "there's the concern over whether Canadian-made weapons could be used for human-rights abuses and there's the concern that they could end in the wrong hands."

While some American lawmakers accuse Zardari's government of corruption and ineffectiveness, the U.S. has pledged nearly $3 billion a year for anti-insurgency military aid over the next five years, on top of $1.5 billion in non-military aid.

Yesterday, the U.S. offered Pakistan $110 million to help the thousands of civilians driven from their homes by fighting.

The White House said $100 million would be for humanitarian aid such as food, tents, radios, generators and other items and that the U.S. Defence Department would give a further $10 million in unspecified assistance.

MacKay said he has urged Pakistan to be mindful of civilian casualties, which could "quickly turn the population against these operations.

"Let's be frank, there is an insidious nature in what the Taliban, and terrorists in other conflicts, have done in putting themselves in positions knowing full well civilians would be affected," he said.

MacKay also said Canada will restart a training program for Pakistani officers that was also shelved after Pakistan's 1998 nuclear test.

As many as 10 senior Pakistani officers a year would be eligible to attend the Canadian military's staff college or the Pearson Peacekeeping Centre in Cornwallis, N.S., or similar military courses.

"Isolation has not worked," MacKay said. "There was great interest to reconnect."

The training program could represent a coup for Canada, said a source at the U.S. State Department. Like Canada, the U.S. stopped Pakistani officers from attending similar courses in America after Pakistan’s nuclear test.

“One of the biggest challenges now is understanding the personalities of Pakistan’s up-and-coming senior officers,” said the state department source.

“When we had their soldiers over for training at Fort Leavenworth and other bases, you had the chance to get to know them a bit. That really helps because in Pakistan, it’s the military that really runs the country. There’s been a vacuum there the past 11 years on getting to personally know the people who are rising up the ranks in Pakistan.”
 
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Canada is a banana state under USA & if in future we got at cross roads with USA Canada again will be reluctant to help us.


but' then many respected pakistani citizen's would spend a fortune to immigrate to this very BANANA STATE ( Canada) how hippocratic isn't it ?
 
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Canadians are licensed manufacturer for US companies. Always need US permission to sell any country. Just like US patriot missile guidance system built in Canada.
But don't know Canada provide to Pak forces. Their Afghan operations under NATO umbrella is not very shiny, receive many casualties in the open ground, some time even eye contact range. Well, all of sudden Pakistan security, like American sneeze and Canadian catch the flu .....
 
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Oh yeah and canada has 2-cents to add.
What would have been a good response from our side
"thank you for your kind gesture of thinking about lifting the embargo and now fu@k off"
Who do these people think their making fools out of. Honestly.
 
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