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Can the US ever match China’s concrete economic offers to Asean?
  • In the US-China battle for influence in Southeast Asia, Beijing has always won hands down in delivering the economic goods, while Washington is centred on security
  • If the Biden administration is serious about its commitment, the US needs to start putting its money where its mouth is, experts say
Published: 5:00pm, 27 Nov, 2021

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Chinese President Xi Jinping chairs an Asean-China summit.


When Chinese President Xi Jinping met Southeast Asian leaders at a virtual summit on Monday, he cited a Chinese proverb to suggest that China was, is, and will always be a good neighbour, friend and partner to the region.

“Distance tests a horse’s strength, and time reveals a person’s integrity”, Xi said, before launching into the various forms of assistance that Beijing would provide to help Southeast Asia tackle and recover from the pandemic, such as contributing to a pandemic fund and providing additional vaccines.

During a similar meeting with leaders of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) late last month, US President Joe Biden said that America’s relationship with the region was “essential in maintaining a free and open Indo-Pacific” to, among others, “uphold freedom of the seas and commerce”.

In a statement later released by the White House, Washington announced a raft of similar initiatives, but valued at almost 15 times less than what their Chinese counterparts offered.

In the battle for influence in the region between the US and China, Beijing has always won hands down in delivering concrete and more substantive economic goods, while Washington’s approach has often been described as being centred on security.

This lopsided approach needed to be addressed, said Hoo Chiew-Ping, a senior lecturer in strategic studies and international relations at the National University of Malaysia, “if the Biden administration wishes to show commitment to the region”, adding that additional economic aid from the US would “be highly appreciated by regional countries”.

And while Southeast Asian countries welcomed China’s offers of aid, these would not reduce their mistrust of China as they did not address challenges between Beijing and the region, said Hanh Nguyen, a non-resident WSD Handa fellow at the Honolulu-based Pacific Forum,

“[These challenges] include the South China Sea disputes and broader concerns over the negative impact of China’s rise on the region,” Hanh said, referring to China’s territorial disputes with Vietnam, the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei over the resource-rich South China Sea.

Thitinan Pongsudhirak, a political-science professor at Thailand’s Chulalongkorn University, said this week’s summit was aimed at shoring up China’s influence and role within Asean, given the formation of the Aukus security alliance between Australia, the UK and the US and recent friction between Beijing and the Philippines.

In September, the US, Australia and the United Kingdom set up the trilateral security pact to counter China, while last week, the Chinese coastguard fired water cannons to block a Filipino resupply mission to a military outpost in the South China Sea.

US: limited aid, nebulous trade
Of the US$102 million announced by Biden, US$40 million will go to an initiative to help address the Covid-19 pandemic and strengthen Asean’s ability to prevent, detect and respond to future outbreaks of infectious diseases.

Another US$20.5 million will finance climate mitigation, and up to US$20 million will go on supporting cooperation in trade and innovation. Another US$17.5 million is earmarked for education projects, and US$4 million to promote gender equality.
During Gina Raimondo’s visit to the region last week, the US Secretary of Commerce pitched a nebulous new “economic framework” comprising the US and its allies that would involve ad hoc sectoral cooperation rather than a full-suite trade pact.

Noting that last week’s discussions were “really, very much preliminary” with further developments expected only next year, Raimondo said it was too early to say exactly which countries would be included.
Acknowledging that the Biden administration had been much too slow in announcing trade frameworks it will use to engage the region, Murray Hiebert, a Southeast Asia expert at Washington’s Centre for Strategic and International Studies said this had deeply disappointed and frustrated Asean countries.

“Many countries in the Indo-Pacific are waiting for Washington to step up its economic engagement to match its more robust security cooperation,” Hiebert said.

In an attempt to counter China, the US has increasingly turned its attention to the region through visits by top officials, stepped up military presence especially in the South China Sea, and strengthened military alliances such as restoring the Visiting Forces Agreement, which allows a large American military presence in the Philippines.

China's economic largesse
Washington’s modest aid contributions and the lack of a multilateral trade strategy stands in sharp contrast to what China has to offer.

These include US$1.5 billion in development assistance to help Southeast Asian countries with pandemic control and economic recovery for the next three years, and a promise to import US$150 billion worth of Asean agricultural products for the next five years.

Beijing will also provide US$5 million to an Asean pandemic fund, and 150 million Covid-19 vaccine doses, which according to Aaron Jed Rabena, a research fellow at the Manila-based think tank Asia-Pacific Pathways to Progress, is China’s way of maximising its vaccine diplomacy – Beijing’s ongoing efforts which began last year when China vaccine companies signed deals with mainly lower and middle income countries to supply them with Chinese-made vaccines.

“Covid-19 remains the most immediate concern to Asean countries,” Rabena said, referring to how the pandemic had taken a toll on many Southeast Asian countries where economic activities have declined, shops and factories closed and visitor numbers plunged.

Hiebert said that most Southeast Asian countries were much more enthusiastic about the more efficacious US vaccines than Sinovac and Sinopharm, the Chinese-made equivalents.

“In the midst of Southeast Asian countries facing serious Covid outbreaks and resulting economic downturns, China has continued to harass Malaysia, the Philippines, Indonesia and Vietnam in their exclusive economic zones (EEZs) in the South China Sea,” Hiebert said.

Apart from firing water cannons on Filipino vessels last week, Chinese survey ships have in recent months – at times flanked by Chinese coastguard vessels – been spotted lingering in the North Natuna Sea, which is part of Indonesia’s EEZ.

Security-wise, Beijing has also agreed to sign the protocol to the SEANWFZ Treaty, as early as possible, despite saying for the past two decades that it would not do so.

Signed by Asean members in 1995, the Treaty of Southeast Asia Nuclear Weapon-Free Zone (SEANWFZ) is a commitment to keep the region free of nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction.
However, Hiebert said much would depend on when China would eventually sign the protocol and what amendments it would insist upon.

“China’s overture may be in response to Aukus under which the US plans to provide Australia with nuclear submarines,” Hiebert noted.

Can the US play catch up?
While Beijing’s approach to providing economic incentives contrasted with Washington’s emphasis on security, Him Raksmey, a research fellow at the Cambodian Institute for Cooperation and Peace, said that support from both was “crucial for the region”.

However, this lopsided approach on the part of the US might lead to China wielding greater influence over Asean, as the region’s deepening engagement with Beijing meant that China would “surely be able to shape their policy preferences such as the extent of their alignment with the US” and the way disputes were handled with China, said Pathways to Progress’ Rabena.

Kei Koga, an assistant professor at Singapore’s Nanyang Technological University, said that since the US was still in the process of formulating its Indo-Pacific strategy, including its relationship with Asean, it would take more time for the US to come up with specific policies towards the region.

While it would be difficult for the US to match China’s economic presence, Pacific Forum’s Hanh said Washington should rely on sectors such as financial services where it has strengths, and where American companies are perceived as more transparent.

But with Biden’s focus on domestic politics, Hahn said that even though “Southeast Asia has re-emerged as a priority for the US, it is [still] not a top priority.”

 
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The Laos HSR unveiled this December will be a massive showcase for successful China one belt one road for ASEAN.
 
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USA security will turn SE Asia to be another Middle East.

While China money will turn SE Asia to be another Western Europe.

And China can't go anywhere, since who is willing to lose their investment, aka money.

The more China money went to SE Asia, the more China will be tied and glued to SE Asia.
 
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USA security will turn SE Asia to be another Middle East.

While China money will turn SE Asia to be another Western Europe.

And China can't go anywhere, since who is willing to lose their investment, aka money.

The more China money went to SE Asia, the more China will be tied and glued to SE Asia.

china has done little to make any country rich
look no further than Myanmar or North Korea
 
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china has done little to make any country rich
look no further than Myanmar or North Korea

Do you think China only import agricultural products from ASEAN countries ?

This is just one SOE company from Indonesia who exported manufacturing product to China this year


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This turbine component may come for CPEC project (China funding)

 
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china has done little to make any country rich
look no further than Myanmar or North Korea

You don't make a country rich through aid, but through long term trade and investments. So ironically the US has been one of the greatest beneficiary of China's economic growth.
 
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The biggest benefit everyone get from China now is good value infrastructure that west hate to see it build. When a country has basic infrastructure, it is like 50% of the job done to move to the next ladder.

This is the reason west is forever paying NGOs going against dams, coal, HSR....etc
 
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The biggest benefit everyone get from China now is good value infrastructure that west hate to see it build. When a country has basic infrastructure, it is like 50% of the job done to move to the next ladder.

This is the reason west is forever paying NGOs going against dams, coal, HSR....etc

does that include Myanmar and North Korea ?
Do you think China only import agricultural products from ASEAN countries ?

This is just one SOE company from Indonesia who exported manufacturing product to China this year

post the numbers for trade with China for all ASEAN states
 
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post the numbers for trade with China for all ASEAN states

I will try post Indonesia-China trade as soon as the data is exist for January-December 2021, the number is encouraging. As I see your post about Indonesia, you still believe on rumor rather than fact
 
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This is 2020 data

Located mostly in Southeast Asia extending to some territories in the Oceania continent across from Australia, the Republic of Indonesia shipped an estimated US$163.3 billion worth of goods around the globe in 2020. That dollar amount reflects a 13% gain since 2016 but a -2.6% decrease from 2019 to 2020.

Indonesia’s biggest export by value is palm oil, a commodity that accounts for over a tenth of all Indonesian exports.

Based on the average exchange rate for 2020, the Indonesian rupiah depreciated by -9.6% against the US dollar since 2016 and dropped by -3.1% from 2019 to 2020. Indonesia’s weaker local currency makes its exports paid for in stronger US dollars relatively less expensive for international buyers in 2020.

The latest available country-specific data shows that 75.3% of products exported from Indonesia were bought by importers in: China (19.5% of the global total), United States (11.4%), Japan (8.4%), Singapore (6.6%), India (6.4%), Malaysia (5%), South Korea (4%), Philippines (3.6%), Thailand (3.1%), Vietnam (3%), Taiwan (2.5%) and the Netherlands (1.9%).

From a continental perspective, 70.3% of Indonesia’s exports by value were delivered to fellow Asian countries while 12.5% were sold to importers in North America. Indonesia shipped another 11.1% worth of goods to Europe. Smaller percentages went to Africa (2.8%), Oceania led by Australia (2%) and Latin America excluding Mexico but including the Caribbean (1.4%).

Given Indonesia’s population of 270.2 million people, its total $163.3 billion in 2020 exports translates to roughly $600 for every resident in the Asian nation.


The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in Indonesian global shipments during 2020. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of overall exports from Indonesia.

  1. Mineral fuels including oil: US$25.6 billion (15.7% of total exports)
  2. Animal/vegetable fats, oils, waxes: $20.7 billion (12.7%)
  3. Iron, steel: $10.8 billion (6.6%)
  4. Electrical machinery, equipment: $9.2 billion (5.7%)
  5. Gems, precious metals: $8.2 billion (5%)
  6. Vehicles: $6.6 billion (4%)
  7. Rubber, rubber articles: $5.6 billion (3.4%)
  8. Machinery including computers: $5.2 billion (3.2%)
  9. Footwear: $4.8 billion (2.9%)
  10. Paper, paper items: $4.2 billion (2.6%)


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@nahtanbob

 
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The biggest benefit everyone get from China now is good value infrastructure that west hate to see it build. When a country has basic infrastructure, it is like 50% of the job done to move to the next ladder.

This is the reason west is forever paying NGOs going against dams, coal, HSR....etc

Stop it. Asians aren't living in modern cities today because China was the one that got you out of the slums. The last 70 years has seen great progress in bringing up living standards and it wasn't due to China's influence.

You should all be thankful of how far you have come and stop your petty NGO griping/blaming when things aren't at the next level.
 
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