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Can Pakistan bounce back after Malaysia snub? It's up to Imran Khan

Pakistan or IK never snubbed Malaysia or Turkey. They joined hands together to put pressure on GCC countries. Erdogan didn't lash out on his own it was all planned that's why there was no denial from Pakistan on his allegations.

Writer's assumptions are completely false, it is the other way around and GCC is coming to Pakistan for damage control. Turkey and Malaysia understood Pakistan's position and played along and now KSA/UAE are on the back foot.

The foreign office did the same fear-mongering on the behest of KSA/UAE to keep Pakistan out of Malaysia summit. But IK & Military establishment ignored them on purpose as they are no happy how these countries acted in the hour of need. The foreign office is filled with Noora league stooges who completely accept GCC as their savior.

Both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia released statements denying the allegations

Pakistan never denied. Aricle is full wrong assumptions
 
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Work is hard, but no matter how cold and tough, wife send his husband, mother his son for earn money. You have to send your daughter with a stranger, one day. no matter how much of a princes she was to you.

No offense but that is just stupid comparison , no one is sending his daughter to fight and die for some Stupid Civil war, in Pakistan most of the people don't even give their daughters to Muslims from other countries so ...

Nothing sectarian, pure business from Pakistan prospective. Assad is a cruel dictator. All PM n COAS has to do, is grow spine and tell nation that Involvement is justified and no sectarian reason is involve. than bank all the oil money to help with loan, Dams and buy new military hardware and use only outdated stuff in Syria. All this ammunition has shelf life.

This shows the lack of knowledge my friend, the was has everything to do with sectarian and if we joined this fire would burn many Pakistani' as well , Once Again I tell you which i am saying to most of these Overseas Pakistani's these days, Why not ask your own forces to do it ? you I assume don't live in Pakistan but wanted to push Pakistan into a Sectarian war ? why ? we have another group who is pushing for Pakistan to take illegal Afghans while they sit in France, Canada and NL .. Why Pakistan ? we will do what is in our interest .

That exactly what US does. Use old outdated stuff on weak countries instead of destroying them, every few years to intimidate milk producing Sheep’s in Mideast and Asia.

Well than as American Citizen you should feel proud that your Army is capable enough to target any country, interfere in any war , Sorry but we are not wasting our soldiers in Stupid Civil and sectarian wars . Economy needs to be fixed but not at the price of our soldiers and innocent people who would die by the thousands because of such dumb decisions ( if taken ) .
 
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Pakistan or IK never snubbed Malaysia or Turkey. They joined hands together to put pressure on GCC countries. Erdogan didn't lash out on his own it was all planned that's why there was no denial from Pakistan on his allegations.

Writer's assumptions are completely false, it is the other way around and GCC is coming to Pakistan for damage control. Turkey and Malaysia understood Pakistan's position and played along and now KSA/UAE are on the back foot.

The foreign office did the same fear-mongering on the behest of KSA/UAE to keep Pakistan out of Malaysia summit. But IK & Military establishment ignored them on purpose as they are no happy how these countries acted in the hour of need. The foreign office is filled with Noora league stooges who completely accept GCC as their savior.



Pakistan never denied. Aricle is full wrong assumptions

Hi,

Thank you for an excellent comment---. These writers and TV analysts are sabotaging the state and trying to create animosity between Malaysia / Turkey and Pakistan.
 
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To be honest this all episode is blunder of imran khan. He is the prime minister of a country, he should know, or be advised and briefed about internal situation of important countries.
Makes me feel he is dumb and cant forsee simple outcomes. If he had planned for independent foreign policies he should have not subjugated to GCC and taken the economic hit. But if he went to GCC for help n succeeded then he should have known to slow down on such issues. He should have known the issues between saudi n turkey n qatar and all that and kept a lid on his ambitions, atleast for the time being.
Now IK govt reputation is destroyed, those countries would ignore kashmir and also slow down on economic relations.
I have realized we not only require an honest leader but also a competent and smart one.
 
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To be honest this all episode is blunder of imran khan. He is the prime minister of a country, he should know, or be advised and briefed about internal situation of important countries.
Makes me feel he is dumb and cant forsee simple outcomes. If he had planned for independent foreign policies he should have not subjugated to GCC and taken the economic hit. But if he went to GCC for help n succeeded then he should have known to slow down on such issues. He should have known the issues between saudi n turkey n qatar and all that and kept a lid on his ambitions, atleast for the time being.
Now IK govt reputation is destroyed, those countries would ignore kashmir and also slow down on economic relations.
I have realized we not only require an honest leader but also a competent and smart one.

Yes, that is the main criticism here - imran should have either not promised to take part as one of the 3 main chairs of the summit or he should have made sure he had gone. Standing in the middle of the road gets you run over.

Regardless, long term we must strengthen alliances with the non-Arab Muslim world.

But there is at least one silver lining, Saudis are clearly exposed. For many years they say they can’t do this type of threat on India over Kashmir abuse, they cannot stop their investment there - but one small issue with Pak and they gave all sorts of threats. Why didn’t they ever threaten India with sending their workers back in response to Kashmir siege?
 
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Imran Khan has behaved like an idiot. He was warned by Foreign Office when he accepted Malaysian Deputy Foreign Minister Marzuki bin Yahya invitation in last week on Nov. . He needed to plan to highlight Kashmir issue in other forums which he failed to do. UAE and Saudi unlike Turkey and Malaysia have a long history of aiding and supporting Pakistan Govt. in its most difficult situations so govt. did not have much of a choice. But the way he has been bashedby UAE and Saudi on Kashmir issue has devastated his standing. UAE and Saudi have been supporting India's narrative which has impacted Pakistan and Kashmir both very negatively. And there is no other option but to find a way to hand back these loans they have given the Imran Khan govt. as they have used this reliance to backstab Pakistan. India used Iran to nullify Pakistan's efforts in OIC whenever Pakistan tried to table Kashmir in the 90s now they are using UAE and Saudi to make Imran destroy his Kashmir diplomatic offensive.
 
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No offense but that is just stupid comparison , no one is sending his daughter to fight and die for some Stupid Civil war, in Pakistan most of the people don't even give their daughters to Muslims from other countries so ...



This shows the lack of knowledge my friend, the was has everything to do with sectarian and if we joined this fire would burn many Pakistani' as well , Once Again I tell you which i am saying to most of these Overseas Pakistani's these days, Why not ask your own forces to do it ? you I assume don't live in Pakistan but wanted to push Pakistan into a Sectarian war ? why ? we have another group who is pushing for Pakistan to take illegal Afghans while they sit in France, Canada and NL .. Why Pakistan ? we will do what is in our interest .



Well than as American Citizen you should feel proud that your Army is capable enough to target any country, interfere in any war , Sorry but we are not wasting our soldiers in Stupid Civil and sectarian wars . Economy needs to be fixed but not at the price of our soldiers and innocent people who would die by the thousands because of such dumb decisions ( if taken ) .
I think our level of geopolitical understanding and your comprehension of analogy is at a different level. Something things are said figuratively and shouldn’t be translated literally.
 
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Sorry to say imran khan has no moral integrity and no one can count on him he does what he should not be doing a big U turner turkeish block is a next big thing saudis loosing and with it pak
 
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I have already explained in previous posts that it’s not just one reason but multiple reasons. Why would American government pressure Saudis to stop Pakistan from attending the summit to join Malaysia, Turkey and Qatar?
IK decided to withdraw and Erdogan explain the reason for it.
 
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Ironically the KL Summit was Imran Khan's idea to begin with. The man simply backtracked on his own words, even the foreign office had to come out in the public and issue a statement in this regard.

Furthermore no one is talking about Mahatir who categorically said Pakistan did not face GCC pressure.

Mahatir and Erdogan have issued contradictory statements while Mr. Khan has remained silent after whipping up this storm in a tea cup all by himself. He has however unconditional backing of his supporters who are extremely anti GCC in stark contrast to Mr. Khan.

Also Mr. Khan has previously stated as PM of Pakistan that 2 countries, one arab and one non arab, are directly interfering in accountability process in Pakistan. Ofcourse this was before Mr. Khan himself had an ordinance passed to legitimize corrupt businesses of friends n family in government positions.
 
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Withdrawing from summit of Muslim countries last month under Saudi pressure was a diplomatic disaster, say diplomats and analysts

Pakistan’s decision to pull out of a summit of Muslim countries in Malaysia under pressure from Saudi Arabia has left the country vulnerable in the wake of its diplomatic disaster, Pakistani diplomats and analysts say.

The episode has also underscored Prime Minister Imran Khan's tricky balancing act, stuck between needing billions in Saudi financial support yet also striving to assert his independence.

“The Saudis told us not to go. It’s as simple as that. Khan should have sent a low-level delegation. He did not,” a Pakistani diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told Middle East Eye.



'Once you give one concession to the Saudis, there is no end'

- Pakistani diplomat


The summit, held in Kuala Lumpur last month, gathered the leaders and senior representatives of around 20 Muslim nations to discuss issues agitating Muslims globally.

Khan had accepted an invitation to attend from Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir bin Mohamad and is thought to have been among leaders who suggested that the summit be held in the first place.

Saudi Arabia, however, is understood to have been concerned that the summit was a move to form a new body to replace the Jeddah-based Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and challenge the kingdom’s leadership in the Muslim world.

And eventually, Khan decided not to attend the summit after he was summoned to Riyadh for talks with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

The decision to withdraw has drawn widespread criticism from other Muslim member countries and seen as a humiliating episode both inside and outside of Pakistan.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan toldreporters at the end of the summit that Saudi Arabia had threatened to withdraw money it had already given to Pakistan and replace Pakistani foreign workers in the kingdom with Bangladeshis.

Both Pakistan and Saudi Arabia released statements denying the allegations. Whatever the case, reputational damage among fellow Muslim countries may already have been done.

A Turkish government official who attended the summit and spoke on condition of anonymity, told MEE: “Look, we have to keep good relations with Pakistan, but its failure in not turning up has not gone unnoticed. It’s a subordinate now.”

Weighing consequences
Abdul Basit, a former Pakistani ambassador, told MEE that the government had committed to the conference in haste and should have thought clearly through the consequences beforehand.

“It did not weigh up the pros and cons. Then when the Saudis raised concerns, they subsequently came under pressure for obvious reasons,” he said.

'Khan has been very careful - more careful than most of his recent predecessors - to try to position Pakistan as a neutral player in the Saudi-Iran dispute'

- Michael Kugelman, Wilson Center

The benefits to Pakistan of trying to build a group to challenge the OIC are far outweighed by the country’s financial concerns, including protecting foreign workers earning a living in the kingdom, he added.

“Many Pakistanis are working there so they couldn’t be seen as a valid voice to counter the OIC. Their economic interests topped everything else.”

The Pakistani Foreign Ministry was contacted several times and did not respond to comment. The Saudi Foreign Ministry did not respond to comment.

Meanwhile, Khan’s concessions have raised concerns among observers, with some even comparing the prime minister with former Lebanese president Saad Hariri.

In 2017, Hariri resigned on Saudi state television after he was abruptly summoned to the kingdom which was reportedly unhappy with the power that Hezbollah – and therefore rival Iran - had in his country. He later rescinded his decision, but resigned this October in the face of mass protests in the country.

Could Khan be heading along the Hariri path, MEE asked Michael Kugelman, deputy director of the Asia Program and senior associate for South Asia at the Washington, DC-based Wilson Center.

“Imran Khan has been very careful - more careful than most of his recent predecessors - to try to position Pakistan as a neutral player in the Saudi Arabia-Iran dispute. I don't think he would want to appear to be overtly siding with, if not overtly jumping into the camp of, the Saudis,” he told MEE.

“Still, Khan's balancing act is a particularly tall order now, given how Saudi leverage has increased over Islamabad due to the Pakistani economic crisis.”


Last week, newly appointed Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan Al-Saud visited Islamabad. According to a Foreign Office statement, the visit focused on bilateral trade and economic cooperation. However, some saw the visit as Saudi damage control.

“The kingdom of Saudi Arabia does not want the international community to view Pakistan as favouring Turkey or Iran,” Basit said.

Kugelman added: “Given the complex geopolitics of the Middle East, and given how Riyadh's many rivals will always seek to undercut it, we may be seeing new efforts afoot to undermine the Saudi-Pakistani relationship.”

Hanging in the balance
Analysts and diplomats say Pakistan ought to be able to negotiate with Saudi Arabia on key issues as it has done successfully in the past. In 2015, for example, the Pakistani parliament rejected a request from the kingdom that Pakistan send troops to Yemen.

However, even before the Malaysian summit episode, Imran Khan’s ability to get what he wanted was already facing dispute.

Of course, one main reason is the pressure that Khan is under as a result of Pakistan's economic challenges. He told MEE in late 2018, soon after the murder of Jamal Khashoggi, that he was shocked by the journalist's killing, but his country needed to prioritise relations with Saudi Arabia because of its financial difficulties.


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Since then, the country has secured more than $9bn in loans from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and China, while also imposing painful austerity measures in order to tap into a $6bn International Monetary Fund bailout.

In this position, Khan has struggled to assert Pakistan's needs in the relationship. For example, more than 3,000 Pakistani prisoners are languishing in Saudi jails, according to Pakistan’s foreign ministryfigures released earlier this year. Human rights advocates say the kingdom has executed more Pakistanis than any other foreign nationals in recent years.

During a visit to Islamabad in February, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman said he had ordered the release of more than 2,100 Pakistanis from Saudi prisons. In August, Pakistani government officials said over 1,000 prisoners had been repatriated.

But human rights organisations complain that no details about those returned have been shared publicly, and vocal concerns continued to be raised about the plight of Pakistanis in Saudi prisons.

However, one point of leverage Pakistan could use to gain an upper hand with Saudi Arabia is through its significant military footprint in the kingdom.

Last year, the country announced it was sending an unknown number of troops for a training-and-advising mission in Saudi Arabia. Pakistan’s retired army chief, General Raheel Sharif, also commands a Saudi-led Islamic military alliance fighting terrorism.

Pakistan could use these military ties to leverage greater power over Saudi Arabia, say observers, for example if Islamabad opted to increase its military support to Qatar.

“Yes, Pakistan could have easily created a win-win situation for itself by the implementation of this strategy,” said Basit. “The Saudis are dependent on us militarily.”

The future is up to Khan, said Syed Talat Hussain, a Pakistani-based journalist.

“The Saudis have carefully calculated how vulnerable Imran Khan is financially. But Khan should also realise the opportunities available to him.

“Khan lacks the political acumen which supported former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif who was heavily supported by the Saudi kingdom. Therefore, the question of Pakistani leverage hangs in the balance under this leadership.”

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Dude everyone country has to protect its national interest, but our national interest is few dollars of labor in middle east. 911 done by Saudi students , sponsored by Saudi govt top officials , 911 commission reports previously omitted 28 pages already been published. But, who paid the price ???. Everyone is safe but who is still paying the price ? . No one will come to help Pakistan , but yes due to our dire economic condition, we ll see more and more blackmailer around us. People need to pay tax and don't divide the nation on the basis of personal interest.
 
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Hi,

That is the only legal way for kashmir to move forward and pakistan to help---.
This is a brilliant idea.
Could easily raise an army of 100K thinning the difference of force on force against India and giving a legitimate right to attack the Loc via a proxy.
We should plan from now for a war in 2025. If we plan from before we have a solid chance of succeeding
 
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Dude everyone country has to protect its national interest, but our national interest is few dollars of labor in middle east. 911 done by Saudi students , sponsored by Saudi govt top officials , 911 commission reports previously omitted 28 pages already been published. But, who paid the price ???. Everyone is safe but who is still paying the price ? . No one will come to help Pakistan , but yes due to our dire economic condition, we ll see more and more blackmailer around us. People need to pay tax and don't divide the nation on the basis of personal interest.

Hi

With every negative comes out a positive and it was laid down in a platter and given to you.

you guys screwed up in how to cash that 5 billion dollars a year cow.

and to hide your failures and sabotage from the vested interests, you kept blaming the US and saudia.

You got all that time and decade to make your mark—-but your hatred of saudia made you cut tour own arms and you happily did that.
 
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The Turkish Establishment is no fool!!! They understand the ground realities, conditions etc....

Now, MBS/MBZ etc. are the "necessary evils" that both Turkey and Pak need....
 
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