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all my posts were meant for jana.
and this is only for u jana- if u ever want to debate about hinduism and islam - come to me , leave a message to me. and ill teach some sense to u.
its a challange to u.
you are one elite member with no sense of comprehension, what he was saying is that turkish muslims are not religious fanatics but just religious people who place their nation first....
!!Craft!!,
Thanks for your post. Thank God one in 1000 is finally spot on.
Its Good to know you do-not sing this and by not singing this, you do not become any lesser Indian. I respect your National Sentiments and I am not inviting you to do anything for which patriotism is at question.
As a relegious guidline, Vande Materam "Bow to the Mother" is not what Muslims do or can do. We Bow to Allah and Nothing after Him. My point was Muslims should not sing this. If they are not forced, its great and I would be happy for Muslims that they are given freedom to do what they find right. I respect your patriotism as an Indian and I will be very happy to see you guys proper and contribute in your National Development. Besides, anything that goes against the religion is forbidden for everybody, every Muslim regardless where he lives and what country he represents. Vande_Materam is forbidden and that must be avoided by every Follower of Islam. Rest, you can surely sing every other National Song or your own National Anthem, no one can question you on that.
Have a good day.
i am a Indian Muslim.. and frankly i dont know vande mataram or in future plan to memories it.. for me national anthem is my pride . and who said that we Indian Muslims are forced to sing vande mataram.. quit frankly vande mataram means i do homage to my motherland. if we muslims can die for our mother land i guess we can give our homage to.. about singing vande mataram i do not sing it but i do respect it because it is my nation song ..
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How many Turks you Bharati know personally that you think that they are taking Islam as second to their nation. Turks is divided between ultra secular kafir and pure hearten Muslim. Turkey are on the way to conservatism once again.
I was thought that Mother is the first God. I still remember how the whole class used to recite the line.
I Dont think Allah would be saddened if u ask him if its true or not ? and as far as my conscience goes its the mother in her there is god.
I guess Koran is being misinterpreted
How many Turks you Bharati know personally that you think that they are taking Islam as second to their nation. Turks is divided between ultra secular kafir and pure hearten Muslim. Turkey are on the way to conservatism once again.
So it proof that Bharat is a Hindu fanatic state. It's secular brand is full of deception and license to suppress minorities with out being notice by west. Bloody cleaver.
It's not a strict version of Islam or anything, its a basic Muslim belief. We bow to no one but Allah.its like saying i bow to the nation.
Better yet, why don't you tell us how you feel about this song? We think it full of shirk. Do you agree or not. It's the month of Ramazan.
What's preventing you from taking stance behalf of your religion. Do not be a coward. Say what' right and stand with it until the death.
That is because you are Hindu. Allah created your so called mother so Allah(god) is first.
Allah and Qur'an has declare your kinds kafir and mushrik.
Allah and Qur'an has declare your kinds kafir and mushrik.
This is what some radical body (I think Dar ul Uloom) said in India... but fell flat on the face as more than 1 lakh Muslims gathered in front of the very office of that radical body and sang 'Vande Mataram' with pride.
I am a Buddhist and I sing this with pride too. The short-sighted laws of Arabia don't apply in India where INDIANS live and have our own laws whether religion or culture.