Can India & Pakistan come out of the spiral of mutual destruction ?

[prashantazazel]

India will secularise faster than Pakistan, but is unlikely to give up territorial claims on Kashmir.
The countries will probably be at peace if both decide to stick to their current borders, which is a reasonable choice.
If there is a final agreement on this, the non state actors would be reigned in, too.

 

[Joe Shearer]

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Don't do that, you know that neither I nor any of the people who believe as I do would behave like these cheap rasta-chhaap pissers. Yes, they exist, but they are not all of us.

 

[GumNaam]

How far are you, exactly, from the nearest airport?

Oh good!

Since you are speaking (from a great distance) on behalf of a red-blooded nation, and since it hasn't gone to war, that seems to make things quite clear. We have nothing to do with people infiltrating into Pakistan.

Let us keep it on record.

What does gum-aql mean? I suppose it is Persian or Chinese or something?

typical indian being an indian, blabbing on for the sake of blabbing on without any substance!

 

[Joe Shearer]

You can share your argument. But there is only one nation that has made a person accused of mass murderer as their PM and that too twice

Clearly Pakistanis didn't make any mass murderer their PM

A point that I freely acknowledge.

Also a point that several Indians, not I alone, has made in this forum, in front of you.

 

[Areesh]

Don't do that, you know that neither I nor any of the people who believe as I do would behave like these cheap rasta-chhaap pissers. Yes, they exist, but they are not all of us.

They might not be all of you. But they are the ones who are running the show in India

 

[Joe Shearer]

typical indian being an indian, blabbing on for the sake of blabbing on without any substance!

True, true.

Always so much substantial to sit at a distance and talk our heads off.

They might not be all of you. But they are the ones who are running the show in India

I hope we will see the end of them soon

Don't you hope so, too?

Or do you want to see those of this kind of thinking continue, just so Indians will be miserable?

Think about it.

 

[GumNaam]

Pakistan, with, I take it, moral support from you from 6,000 kms away?

The country is SO lucky.

Pakistan didn't need my moral support when it butchered your rectal cavity on Feb 27th...looks like you couldn't do much while being in india! chal ab chai pi aur kaan pakad shabaash!

 

[Maula Jatt]

India will secularise faster than Pakistan, but is unlikely to give up territorial claims on Kashmir.
The countries will probably be at peace if both decide to stick to their current borders, which is a reasonable choice.
If there is a final agreement on this, the non state actors would be reigned in, too.

Even irrelagious folks in Pak think it should never be a secular country so you are right there
But what's the issue with referendum as it's a internationally recognized special, disputed region unlike anywhere else in India - it can't set a precedent

We can include every part of J and K, Pak, India both or however but some kind of Democratic process must take place

 

[prashantazazel]

Even irrelagious folks in Pak think it should never be a secular country so you are right there
But what's the issue with referendum as it's a internationally recognized special, disputed region unlike anywhere else in India - it can't set a precedent

We can include every part of J and K, Pak, India both

A large country like India needs to secure its water resources and maintain its borders. Even highly developed countries like the US don't allow secession, and have fought bloody wars for it.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Pakistan didn't need my moral support when it butchered your rectal cavity on Feb 27th...looks like you couldn't do much while being in india! chal ab chai pi aur kaan pakad shabaash!

Ah, you have re-discovered the rectum!

As for my contribution, when I was 48 I was working for defence. Any plans on your side to work for your country?

If Pakistan didn't need your support at that difficult time, what makes you think she needs you around making loud, war-like noises?

Have you served, btw? Or are you covering a guilty feeling?

 

[Wood]

Things have move beyond Kashmir issue now.

It seems to me a clash of civilization now where no party wants to coexist with the other. The vulgar enjoyment on the deaths and misery of common people speaks volumes about the direction people are going and unfortunately there is no one who is addressing the elephant in the room.

Currently i don't even see a semblance of maturity where decision makers would even think about sitting together and thinking about a future with each other.

Kashmir issue is the symptom, not the root cause. Resolving the Kashmir issue is treating the symptom, will not fix the underlying condition

 

[Areesh]

I hope we will see the end of them soon

Don't you hope so, too?

Or do you want to see those turds continue, just so Indians will be miserable?

Think about it.

I hope a lot of things. But hopes don't make things happen

Similarly these people won't disappear themselves. Someone would have to make them disappear. And I don't see that happening in India

 

[GumNaam]

Ah, you have re-discovered the rectum!

As for my contribution, when I was 48 I was working for defence. Any plans on your side to work for your country?

what were you doing for your defense? giving out lessons to your top guns on how to drink that fantashtik cup of tea as a pow or teaching your sainkis how to hold their ears while kneeling down? either way, looks like you trained them well!

 

[Joe Shearer]

I hope a lot of things. But hopes don't make things happen

Similarly these people won't disappear themselves. Someone would have to make them disappear

Trust me, there are a lot of us trying, politically, to do that. Until then, I - we - freely acknowledge that you have a moral edge.

 

[Maira La]

Kashmir issue is the symptom, not the root cause. Resolving the Kashmir issue is treating the symptom, will not fix the underlying condition

I think from Pakistani pov, it's the end of their problem with India. They don't want further expansion, as they don't have much appetite to turn millions of unwanted Gangetics into Pakistani citizens.

Otoh, India is already sore that the British did not leave the colonial territory intact. Their interest stretches beyond Kashmir, and combined with superpower and akhand bharat delusions, even if Pakistan recognized the current loc as border India will continue to try to destabilize and balkanize Pakistan.