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Can an Indonesian Model Work in the Middle East?

Indonesia criticized China for their testament of Uyghur Muslims which most Muslim countries won't dare to

Indonesia alongside Saudi, turkey and Egypt boycotted India G-20 summit in occupied Kashmir

Anything but puppets in my eyes - not saying that just cause you're an Indonesian

So what do you want ? Start to declare war with China and India ?

Be pragmatic. See the reality. Better Pakistan focus on the economy. Kashmir issue has made Pakistan get trapped and spend too much on the military but we know India is too powerful to be defeated by Pakistan.

The same thing like the way Indonesia let go East Timor and focus to rebuild our economy and political system after suffering economic crisis in 1997-1998
 
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So what do you want ? Start to declare war with China and India ?
No lol
Be pragmatic. See the reality. Better Pakistan focus on the economy. Kashmir issue has made Pakistan get trapped and spend too much on the military but we know India is too powerful to be defeated by Pakistan.
I don't think it's an issue we can ever get out of - domestically or internationally
Kashmiris are literally Pakistani in every way and even if we accept the poisonous sip I don't think Indo-Pak relationship can ever normalize occupied Kashmir or no Kashmir
 
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No lol

I don't think it's an issue we can ever get out of - domestically or internationally

Indonesia can let go East Timor when we still grab the land. We understand this East Timor problem will drag all of Indonesia to be enemy of USA and Europe.

Just be like South Korea, they dont have any willingness to become the sole ruler of Korean people, they focus to build what they have already had after the war ended.
 
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The most important thing is reality.

Some countries can be labeled as religious, but if you look closer and investigate it deeply, actually the opposite happened. Or basically it's empty religious, fake religious.

Religious is always good, if it's being done correctly according to the teaching, not just empty slogan, name, symbol, etc.

How can people who are diligent, responsible, honest, help each other, etc, not be successful?


If there's a country who claims to be religious, but most of the country is backward, a lot of poverty and suffering, and even in ruin. Without need to be told, I think everyone is able to imagine what the local people have done there. Definitely they are not good people, let alone to be labelled as 'religious'.

They are praying in the temple, praising the name of idol like crazy. But when they get home, they become lazy, then they go outside to fool everyone for a small amount of money. If they work, they are dishonest, try to cheat, corrupt, whatever it's time, money, or material. If they saw a man who is diligent and work hard, they become anger and jealous, accusing diligent man as greedy, unreligious, then destroy the man's hard work.
 
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Middle Eastern countries have gone through the most difficult time and have made various political attempts. In the future, they will focus on economic and social development and maintain the status quo politically.
 
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The largely secular-nationalist minded President Sukarno succeeded in marginalizing political Islam. His successor, Suharto (in fatigues), led an anticommunist purge, which had the unin-tended consequence of prompting the vast majority of Indonesians to identify as Muslims to escape the communist dragnet.

"Anti-Communist purge". Nice way to describe a genocide of Communists. :lol:

Indos, so Suharto, the lap-dog of NATO destroyed public organized leftist / progressive thought in Indonesia and by favorably posting this article from a NATO dog you want mullah dogs from Indonesia to support or instigate mullahism in progressive or semi-progressive societies in the "Middle East" like Syria, West Bank, Algeria and Egypt ?
 
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"Anti-Communist purge". Nice way to describe a genocide of Communists. :lol:

Indos, so Suharto, the lap-dog of NATO destroyed public organized leftist / progressive thought in Indonesia and by favorably posting this article from a NATO dog you want mullah dogs from Indonesia to support or instigate mullahism in progressive or semi-progressive societies in the "Middle East" like Syria, West Bank, Algeria and Egypt ?

Soeharto tried to save the Communist members from being killed on the street. He brought many of them to Buru Island in Eastern Indonesia (near Papua Island )


Buru Island is one of the large islands in the Maluku Islands. With an area of 8,473.2 km², and a coastline length of 427.2 km, Buru Island ranks third after Halmahera Island in North Maluku and Seram Island in Central Maluku. In general, Buru Island is in the form of hills and mountains. The highest peak reaches 2, 736 m.

The island is famous as an island of exile for political prisoners during the New Order government of President Suharto.

 
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Soeharto tried to save the Communist members from being killed on the street. He brought many of them to Buru Island in Eastern Indonesia (near Papua Island )


Buru Island is one of the large islands in the Maluku Islands. With an area of 8,473.2 km², and a coastline length of 427.2 km, Buru Island ranks third after Halmahera Island in North Maluku and Seram Island in Central Maluku. In general, Buru Island is in the form of hills and mountains. The highest peak reaches 2, 736 m.

The island is famous as an island of exile for political prisoners during the New Order government of President Suharto.


Ah, so Suharto on the order of NATO first enabled the mullahs to slaughter the Communists where found but then since his heart was as vast as the sea ( "Dil dariya" as we say in desi land ) he decided to save a few Communists by giving them the gold cage called Buru Island. Good job.
 
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Middle Eastern countries have gone through the most difficult time and have made various political attempts. In the future, they will focus on economic and social development and maintain the status quo politically.

Yes, this is what I saw as well.
 
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