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They have every right to complain about their rights, no one's stopping them.

They don't complain about it because their very first thought is not "Aha! How can I make this serve my ethno-linguistic agendas? How can I use this to blame everything on the rest of Pakistan?" They'd rather shut up and serve their country instead.

Apparently if we consider the issue being discussed here (land ownership rights) then on surface it definitely seems "preferential treatment" for one party but as we have observed such biased rules negatively affect both parties.

Given your past record, I will only consider your concerns as genuine this one time. If you try to still peddle these foolish accusations of "preferential treatment" and "bias" then I will shut you down very swiftly.


Under the UN resolution signed by Pakistan and the official position of the State of Pakistan, the region formerly known as the Princely State of Kashmir is a disputed region whose future will be decided solely as per the express wishes of its people. Pakistan holds itself accountable to the Kashmiris' right of self-determination and until they have exercised that right, Pakistan will honor and hold their land under its control in trust. Until they have decided it for themselves Pakistan acknowledges that it does not hold final sovereignty over GB or AJK. Hence, until that day a non-resident of the region has no rights over that region. It would be quite moronic for Pakistan to breach this resolution since it is the strongest leg both our claim and argument stand on. Would also be a breach of the rights and trust of the people you pretend to fight for.

Furthermore, under Pakistan's constitution, every person belonging to GB, AJK, and J&K is a Pakistani citizen by birthright. Hence, he/she has every right afforded to every other Pakistani citizen, including the right to purchase land in Pakistan Proper.


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For example just think how much money GB people can make by selling beautiful lands to rich businessmen from Karachi, similarly businesses will build infrastructure there that will benefit locals and there will be prosperity.

No, there wouldn't be any of that. You clearly don't know the region or how any of this works. Businesses are free to operate there as it is. A "rich businessman from Karachi" does not need to own land there to operate his business. Neither has he done any good for or moved to any of the other many "beautiful lands" that he can already purchase in KPK, Northern Punjab, and North Western Balochistan.

PS: The moment it is opened for the rest of Pakistan, you will ruin it.
 
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Indians have already abrogated article 370 and allowed land purchase right to every indian so the demography change is already happening there and we cannot stop that. Where are we going with our pacifist stance?

we are trying to turn it around. lets see if this approach works. war isnt going to make them reinstate article 370.

my concern was regarding to the discrimination/preferential treatment of one group of people over another since Kashmiris are allowed to purchase land in mainland Pakistan. Not that I am in favor of banning Kashmiri people from these rights but instead GOP should allow Pakistanis to buy land there. Since we are one nation/ one people so why this divide?

have some mercy on those people in GB and AJK. so often people there die and have their home destroyed from indian shelling, and its about settling the dispute and the only way we can do that without winning a war is by not doing demographic changes (pressuring india to not do to it either on their side), have a good strategy for putting pressure on them and eventually resolving the Kashmir issue. this issue and resolving it properly is far more important than temporary divides of why we cant buy land in GB and AJK. its not a big deal.

Not to mention that locals only have to benefit from this since that area is sparsely populated therefore economic activities are very limited. Population boom means economic boom.

it also means population and population density is going to go up and each indian shell is more likely to hit a civilian target and not some empty field and a dead crow.
 
So isn't that hypocritical and discriminatory against other Pakistanis and gives unfair advantage to AJK/GB people?


Lets not open the pandora's box, and give the Anglo terrorist bandits of Bharat more excuses to 'legitimize' their inhumane campaign in occupied territories of Kashmir.
 
There should be no concern whatsoever if AJK/GB people can buy property in Pakistan while the converse is not permitted owing to the unique legal status and definition of these territories. This is not some ploy to "disadvantage" people not from said territories, but is rather a straightforward strategic policy to (a) empower the local inhabitants of the disputed territories, (b) create a viable and reproducible framework for peace and prosperity of the entirety of Kashmir, and (c) apply pressure on Hindustan to adhere to the same policy.

Indeed, residents of such territories should entirely be enabled to refer to themselves as citizens both of Pakistan AND simultaneously citizens of AJK/GB (akin to the Good Friday agreement in Northern Ireland enabling the northern Irish to identify as both Irish and British citizens if they so choose). Pakistan has behaved in exemplary fashion, fully supporting the inalienable rights of the inhabitants of these lands without jeopardizing Pakistani sovereignty in the slightest and without prejudicing the ultimate aim of these people for self-determination. In return, these states voluntarily extend loyalty and no shortage of genuine brotherhood towards all of Pakistan.

As well as being an honourable approach, Pakistan's empowerment of local inhabitants is a clever strategy to undermine completely the Indian alternative approach in occupied Kashmir, where undesirable policy and outright discriminatory practices are imposed against the natives. To put it another way, Pakistan creates and nurtures a genuine framework within which the native peoples can exert political strength and prosper freely, which lies in stark contrast to Indian behaviour in occupied Kashmir wherein native peoples have had every political recourse stripped away from them.
 
As somebody speaking from experience. Pakistanis do buy land and properties in Azad Kashmir
 
Mainland Pakistani citizens cannot buy property in Azad Kashmir or Gilgit Baltistan

In AJK, no
In GB, yes


1) In 1927, the then ruler of the princely state of J&K issued a notification granting to the state subjects the right to government office and the right to land use and ownership, which were not available to non-state subjects. It is generally referred to as the State Subject Rule (SSR)

2) Since Gilgit-Baltistan was under the rule of Maharaja of Kashmir, SSR theoretically was said to be extended to this region. However, no documents or official record related to its promulgation in Gilgit-Baltistan is available with the law department of Gilgit-Baltistan.

3) It has been claimed that Pakistan abolished SSR in GB in 1974. However, the fact remains that Pakistan has never formally abloished SSR in GB. In 1974, the government of Zulfqar Ali Bhutto announced administrative and judicial reforms by abolishing the State of Hunza, Rajgiri & Jagirdari System and Frontier Crime Regulation (FCR) only. The Rajas (rulers) of abolished States were given government jobs and maintenance allowances.

4) These changes that enabled non-state subjects to own property in GB were introduced at the structural level, and not constitutional level.

 
They don't complain about it because their very first thought is not "Aha! How can I make this serve my ethno-linguistic agendas? How can I use this to blame everything on the rest of Pakistan?" They'd rather shut up and serve their country instead.
If they don't want to complain, fine, its their own choice too. But I will raise voice for the things that affects me and only me, regardless of whether some other person is silent on their suffering. If my tax money is being used on the development of a region then I should have every right to purchase land in that region. Period.

Meanwhile that notion is also not true that they not complain, there are many protests in which people of GB have demanded full inclusion into Pakistan. It was only due to these voices that GB was given semi-provincial status.
Given your past record
So you want to play that gullible child again. Do it happily I say. I have already ignored several idiotic words from you on this thread. Stop replying me if you don't have the manners to remain civilized.
I will shut you down very swiftly.
I hope by that you do not mean to misuse your modding powers. Do you?
If you try to still peddle these foolish accusations of "preferential treatment" and "bias" then I will shut you down very swiftly.
I am saying it again more clearly. These type of laws are "biased" in favor of one group of people and "discrimination" against another group, giving "preferential treatment" and "privilege" to a group is not a good characteristic for a democratic country.

Now what are you going to do about it??

No, there wouldn't be any of that. You clearly don't know the region or how any of this works. Businesses are free to operate there as it is. A "rich businessman from Karachi" does not need to own land there to operate his business. Neither has he done any good for or moved to any of the other many "beautiful lands" that he can already purchase in KPK, Northern Punjab, and North Western Balochistan.
Running a business on rent can amount to significant costs in the long term that's why many opt for having own lands.

To answer why "rich businessman from Karachi" don't go to any other places you mentioned? Well there are multitude of reasons from security to racism etc and that is its own debate that can be done in another thread. There is not like any systematic discrimination in any of the places you mentioned so the comparison doesn't make sense.
PS: The moment it is opened for the rest of Pakistan, you will ruin it.
By that entire Pakistan should be blocked and every Pakistani should be locked in their homes because they will ruin the outside.

Starting from Karachi which is the most ruined region by every tom D!ck harry.
 
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@Mujahid Memon .. You can own land/property in GB if you are Pakistani national (a lot of Pakistanis, esp. Pashtuns do own properties in GB). The people of GB are at a clear disadvantage here. They have no representation in the National Assembly or Senate of Pakistan. GB is not governed by the constitution of Pakistan and the people of GB are not recognised as citizens of Pakistan (though they enjoy some citizenship rights) ..
 
@Mujahid Memon .. You can own land/property in GB if you are Pakistani national (a lot of Pakistanis, esp. Pashtuns do own properties in GB). The people of GB are at a clear disadvantage here. They have no representation in the National Assembly or Senate of Pakistan. GB is not governed by the constitution of Pakistan and the people of GB are not recognised as citizens of Pakistan (though they enjoy some citizenship rights) ..
Thanks for the clarification. I know the grievances of GB people as I have grown up among them specially Hunzai people. They want complete integration into Pakistan as a fifth province and don't want anything to do with the disputed status of AJK/IOK.
 
Thanks for the clarification. I know the grievances of GB people as I have grown up among them specially Hunzai people. They want complete integration into Pakistan as a fifth province and don't want anything to do with the disputed status of AJK/IOK.

Yes..... Hunza, Nager, Chilas, Koh Ghizar, Iskhuman and Yasin, though under Kashmir’s suzerainty, were never recognized as a part of Kashmir, not even by the Brits. Pakistan agreed to include all of GB in UN plebiscite for its entirely Muslim pro-Pakistan vote. Maharaja of Kashmir was never able to exercise sovereignty over GB and the People of GB had already chosen Pakistan. Lumping them together with j&K for political purposes is unfair to say the least
 
Forget loopholes I've had no problems.
I've bought a property in mirpur AJK.
And I have a Pakistani passport and I'd card. No problems straight forward.
Saw it liked it bought it
Just to add to my portfolio. It's now rented out
 
But I will raise voice for the things that affects me and only me, regardless of whether some other person is silent on their suffering.

So we agree; you are either an infantile imbecile who will spit on the interests and rights of other Pakistanis and the country itself for your own supposed nonsensical wants or you are a mooch hoping to distract yourself and others from your own impotence by attacking and blaming the rest of Pakistan for supposed "atrocities and biases" against you. I tend to believe you're the latter.

If my tax money is being used on the development of a region then I should have every right to purchase land in that region. Period.

What tax money? Show me.

That region contributes far more to the Pakistani economy than the pittance that is spent on it from "your taxes". They still don't get any representation in the government, which you do. No hospitals, no clinics, no doctors, no schools, no colleges, no universities, no roads, no running water, no gas, no plumbing, no electricity, nothing. All of which are clearly wasted on ungrateful parasites such as yourself, who somehow still keep wailing over everything. Like I said, you are a graceless propagandist who tries to hide his ethno-nationalistic political agendas behind moronic arguments. One who tries to placate his own inadequacies by blaming the rest of Pakistan for fabricated crimes.

Meanwhile that notion is also not true that they not complain, there are many protests in which people of GB have demanded full inclusion into Pakistan. It was only due to these voices that GB was given semi-provincial status.

Are you equating your moronic rants to a people's demand for representation in their government? Regardless, do you see them blaming you for not having it? Do you hear them term it a conspiracy or bias against them? Did I say that they seek nothing? What an idiotic thing to say.

So you want to play that gullible child again. Do it happily I say. I have already ignored several idiotic words from you on this thread. Stop replying me if you don't have the manners to remain civilized.

I don't reply to you by choice. I am duty bound to oppose and fight every self-serving hack who takes every opportunity to spread hatred and his moronic regional political agendas in the country.

I hope by that you do not mean to misuse your modding powers. Do you?

You think you can play the victim now? Is this your response to everything?

I am saying it again more clearly. These type of laws are "biased" in favor of one group of people and "discrimination" against another group, giving "preferential treatment" and "privilege" to a group is not a good characteristic for a democratic country.

And, as at least half a dozen other members have already stated, these "type of laws" aren't for you at all. They are born from the greater interests of the country and its people, especially those who are currently under a brutal occupation of a foreign force. Both of whom have far greater concerns than a halfwit who wants to be allowed to buy land in GB even if it means compromising Pakistan's entire stance on the Kashmir conflict, our Kashmiri brothers lives, and the State-promised rights of the people you wish to win over.

'I am saying it again more clearly'. GB and AJK are not sovereign territories of the State of Pakistan. Until they themselves decide that they are you or any other Taimur, Daud, or Habib you hang out with literally has no right to that land. Thank them instead that they still let you exploit their resources without ever receiving anything of note in return.

Running a business on rent can amount to significant costs in the long term that's why many opt for having own lands.

To answer why "rich businessman from Karachi" don't go to any other places you mentioned? Well there are multitude of reasons from security to racism etc and that is its own debate that can be done in another thread. There is not like any systematic discrimination in any of the places you mentioned so the comparison doesn't make sense.

So more ethno-linguistic garbage? What makes you think that GB and AJK would be any better? Every Pakistani is out to get you, after all.

By that entire Pakistan should be blocked and every Pakistani should be locked in their homes because they will ruin the outside.

Starting from Karachi which is the most ruined region by every tom D!ck harry.

I can't entertain these idiotic statements.


It is amply clear now that your intention to start this thread was only to spread your ethno-linguistic and regional agendas. Obviously, I will not allow it. Do it again and I'll make sure that you never can.
 
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Forget loopholes I've had no problems.
I've bought a property in mirpur AJK.
And I have a Pakistani passport and I'd card. No problems straight forward.
Saw it liked it bought it
Just to add to my portfolio. It's now rented out
You chat rubbish mate no loophole no property .a pakistani citizen cannot buy property in azad kashmir.
 
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