Can a non muslim fast for Ramadan?

[Yeti]

Don't see why not buddy I went out with a Pakistani girl before she was fasting during these times so I did not want to eat in her face when I was with her just for respect.

 

[Kompromat]

Roy , you can keep fast for the respect of a certain person but it would not be classified as 'Roza'. At the end of the month we also need to give every 40th dollar owned over period of 12 month out the total calculated value of hard cash , gold , silver , stock , land , property on which no debt is owed to a needy person preferabily a relative as Zakat (charity) which must be done discreetly and must never be publicised.

This is how Ramadan is completed , unless you are exempted from Zakat because of your finacial situation.

Are you ready

 

[FullMetalJacket]

"Fasting is prescribed to you as it was to those before you..." and some of "those before us" are now generally/often classified non-Muslim. Any remnant of fasting in any tradition would in my view come from that earlier prescription. And we know that nn-Muslims do fast, so your question is a non-question to begin with

Fasting according to the Muslim tradition is between the slave (your or me) and its Lord, and it's reward is measured out by Him according to your sincerety to the fast. So, one: it's completely between you and God, and you don't need to be called Abdullaah (i.e. Devdas ) to fast. And two, if you're gonna fast, do it for the Creator and not just for the missus, keep your goals high!

There are just two major rules in a Muslim fast: you don't
- eat or drink (or smoke),
- copulate (just no penetration, foreplay is okay)
from dawn till dusk.

I did not know this one.

But because you're not a Muslim, you could chose to, say drink, while your fast.

I did not know this one.

 

[Roybot]

Roy , you can keep fast for the respect of a certain person but it would not be classified as 'Roza'. At the end of the month we also need to give every 40th dollar owned over period of 12 month out the total calculated value of hard cash , gold , silver , stock , land , property on which no debt is owed to a needy person preferabily a relative as Zakat (charity) which must be done discreetly and must never be publicised.

This is how Ramadan is completed , unless you are exempted from Zakat because of your finacial situation.

Are you ready

Thanks mate, that helps. So basically one must anonymously donate 1/40th of annual earnings?

Would it be wrong if I claim the donation in my taxes?

 

[Awesome]

Did not know keeping roza was a pointless thing..
The man is asking for guidance and all you have to offer is BS.

Staying hungry is pointless with respect to Ramadan fasting, since it won't be a roza and go learn some manners on talking politely before giving me some lectures...

Quite simply put you have to pray 5 times a day, be on your best behavior - Islamically. Also go for Taraweeh prayers. Which he won't do, because he'd stop being a non-Muslim if he does that. Non-Muslim fasting is pointless thats why. Anyone can do it, the Ramadan police won't come and make you eat anything, nor would anyone be offended.

... and I have some 'kid-around capital' with Roybot to have cracked that joke.

 

[imran_ind]

Fasting in Ramadan, #1: A Pillar of Islam
The foundation of Islamic spiritual practice is known as the Five Pillars of Islam, which form the basis for a spiritual culture designed to provide an ideal environment for personal growth and spiritual evolution. Fasting in Ramadan is one of the Five Pillars of Islam, constituting one of the most important spiritual practices designed to empower a human being in overcoming the self and transcending the ego, the one true veil between a human being and his or her Creator.

Fasting in Ramadan, #2: Spiritual Purification
One of the primary benefits of fasting in Ramadan is spiritual purification, the essential goal of Islamic Spirituality. Although we tend to think of the mind, body and spirit as separate components, in reality they are all connected and inter-related, and improvement in any one naturally effects improvement in the others as well. Fasting in Ramadan purifies the mind, body and spirit, leading to greater clarity, sensitivity and health.

Fasting in Ramadan, #3: Health
It has now been scientifically documented that the single most effective practice for improving human health and longevity is the reduction of intake and consumption. Fasting in Ramadan allows the digestive system, the engine of the body, to rest from the normal demands of processing and breaking down food, freeing up system resources to cleanse and purify the body of accumulated toxins, thereby allowing more effective healing and tissue repair. Fasting in Ramadan keeps the body healthy and youthful, provided one does not overindulge when breaking fast.

Fasting in Ramadan, #4: Community and Family
One of the greatest benefits of fasting in Ramadan is renewing solidarity and cultivating relationships with one’s family and community. Only one who observes fasting in Ramadan can truly know the beauty and joy of breaking fast with others, celebrating the gift of life daily for thirty days with loved ones.

Fasting in Ramadan, #5: Gratitude
It’s true that one generally does not realize what he or she has until it’s gone or not available, and by fasting in Ramadan, Muslims become acutely aware of the unlimited abundance of divine favor God Almighty has blessed humanity with, particularly with regards to sustenance. The cultivation of gratitude is a core purpose of Islam, and few spiritual practices cultivate gratitude as does fasting in Ramadan.

Fasting in Ramadan, #6: Humility and Selflessness
By fasting in Ramadan, a Muslim realizes how totally dependent we are upon the divine grace of God for survival, and humility is a natural result of this realization. Generally, we take things for granted and become heedless as a result of living in the world, dunya, yet by fasting in Ramadan, we are continually reminded of our frailty, leading us to humility, reverence, piety and selflessness, primary goals of Islamic Spirituality.

Fasting in Ramadan, #7: Empathy and Compassion
Although we live in a world of natural abundance, of divine grace and providence, unfortunately due to lack of empathy, compassion and solidarity among human beings, there are many throughout the globe who still struggle with hunger, poverty, lack and scarcity. When a Muslim observes fasting in Ramadan, he or she feels the hunger that many experience daily as a normal consequence of their circumstances. By fasting in Ramadan, we develop the holy qualities of empathy and compassion, becoming more aware of our intrinsic connection and oneness with all human beings regardless of borders or labels that create artificial separation among the citizens of the human race.

Fasting in Ramadan, #8: Restraint and Self-Discipline
The modern world and its culture is largely defined by materialism, consumption and instant gratification of desires. This results in the diminishment of human consciousness, the regression of planetary culture and the suppression of the soul. When fasting in Ramadan, a Muslim consciously curtails this unhealthy norm by consciously practicing restraint and self-discipline, separating him or herself from the animal kingdom which is governed by the unconscious drive to satiate one’s immediate needs and desires. Fasting in Ramadan is thus an essential practice for attaining true freedom and independence from dunya, the external world of form and appearances, and for the liberation of the soul from the self, the mind-body that is unconsciously driven by fear and the struggle survival.

Fasting in Ramadan, #9: Simplicity and Non-Attachment
When living without discipline and restraint, life quickly becomes overly complicated, leading to a heavy burden that results in unnecessary stress, anxiety, unhappiness and difficulty. By fasting in Ramadan, we limit excess and indulgence, facilitating the return to simplicity and non-attachment, releasing one from dependence on dunya and so contributing to psychological health and happiness.

Fasting in Ramadan, #10: Focus
With the constant demands of modern life, it’s easy to become lost and forget not only who we are, but we automatically forget our divine purpose and destiny. Without constant reminder, we become lost in the dream and disconnected from reality. Fasting in Ramadan for thirty days is a powerful practice in restoring focus, direction, balance and purpose to our lives


You are welcome to fast

 

[KS]

I was forced to do it when I was in Gulf....lolx..so no problem as far as I can see.

 

[Roybot]

Thanks for all the input guys. As I mentioned, I am planning to do it to makes things easier for the wifey. This will be her first ramadan since our wedding, so don't want her to feel "awkward".

Whether it will be a valid roza or not, well lets just leave that to the guy sitting upstairs, but I ll do it sincerely.

Mods can close this thread now.

 

[W.11]

Thanks for all the input guys. As I mentioned, I am planning to do it to makes things easier for the wifey. This will be her first ramadan since our wedding, so don't want her to feel "awkward".

Whether it will be a valid roza or not, well lets just leave that to guy sitting upstairs, but I ll do it sincerely.

Mods can close this thread now.

with you 24/7 in PDF is this ok for your missus?

need to report your trolling to your missus

 

[Skallagrim]

I was forced to do it when I was in Gulf....lolx..so no problem as far as I can see.

Or you forced yourself to do it!!??

 

[Roybot]

with you 24/7 in PDF is this ok for your missus?

I am online when I am at work or when she is at work! Thank you for your concern though

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

Addendum to 'can a non-Muslim fast': I used to fast more when I used to be atheist. I now realize it was a cultural thing than a personal decision.

 

[Bhairava]

Thanks for all the input guys. As I mentioned, I am planning to do it to makes things easier for the wifey. This will be her first ramadan since our wedding, so don't want her to feel "awkward".

Whether it will be a valid roza or not, well lets just leave that to the guy sitting upstairs, but I ll do it sincerely.

Mods can close this thread now.

Do you guys work @ the same place. If not, I dont see a problem.

Anyway all the best at being a good hubby...

 

[Killuminati]

A non muslim can fast so many times he want

But the question is, will it be accepted?

Two things are important:

1. Intention
2. Sunnah

If you handle correctly by these two, then insha Allah your fast will be accepted. But more important then this is if you are a muslim, because you can do the best things for humanity what you want. You can feed the whole world but still this doesnt matter for Allah. He wants that you accept the Oneness in His Lordship (Rubbubiyyah), the Oneness in Worship (Uluhiyyah) and the Oneness of His names and attributes (Asma wa Sifaat). That you bare witness that nothing and nobody has the right to be worshipped except Allah and that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger.

 

[Kompromat]

Thanks mate, that helps. So basically one must anonymously donate 1/40th of annual earnings?

Would it be wrong if I claim the donation in my taxes?

Earnings and asstes at which you owe no debt and have owned for 12 months.

ATO wont be too happy with your claim