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Campaign against Indian Muslims after Gujarat blasts

Icecold, I do not treat original Geo.tv news as very credible, I would appreciate if you could dig up another news source to corroborate the same .. till then I would go with the non Geo.tv version of the news/world, which depict a very mature response by the grief stricken citizens of India..
 
Jinnah is dead.

Anyone believes in his theories any more?

Interestingly, the people of the Islamic faith do not shed a drop of tear for the Uighurs, who are not allowed to practice their religion. Children below 18 are not allowed to go to the Mosque or receive Islamic knowledge.

Mullahs have to get their Friday sermons vetted by the Chinese.

And the demography is being changed in Xinjiang, where the capital city has more Hans than Uighurs.

But that is fine for these champions of Islam!!

Chinese are the only ones on the right lines to wipe out the pan Islamism and thus terrorists.

To Chinese, the nation is supreme and religion is a bogus entity that only creates trouble and China wants no trouble!

China and Bush think alike. Though Bush has compassion while China brooks no nonsense and enacts draconian strangulation of Islam that Bush can never replicate because of the American conscience!!

While I am not going to get drawn into this bash China bandwagon here (which is what is being instigated here), Muslims feel the same for their brethren be they Uighurs, Pakistanis, Indians, Japanes, Chechens, Bosnians, Indonesians etc. etc. Lets not mix Pakistan's politics and issues with India with those of Muslims and Islam.

As far you decrying the champions of Islam, I suggest you look inward first and worry about the double standards of your champions of democracy and their less than pristine reputation when it comes to democracy in Kashmir. Nobody is perfect!

Pakistan and Pakistanis support China and Chinese at various levels due to our converged interests and friendship. Chinese do not agree with everything that Pakistan or Pakistanis do and the same can be said about Pakistan and Pakistanis with regards to China.
 
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Sir Brigadier Sir,

:Solemn Bow:

I hope Sir, you are not suggesting that the tears shed for Indian Mosle.ms by Pakistani Mos.lems are because of the reasons of partition and partition only.

Is it an attempt to justify the reason that Pakistan should exist( even though it was broken into two inside a quarter century of its existence, I will leave the NWFP, Balochistan rhetoric for later) and to let the Mosl.ems of India lament the fact that they chose to follow the Loin cloth wearing Hindu Gujarati and by choosing to thumb their noses at the very Daper Cigar smoking Mosl.em Gujarati !

:coffee:

Pakistan being broken up has less to do with religion and national cohesion and more to do with unrealistic idea of having a country spanning two geographical wings split up by a less than friendly neighbor.

You have to talk to a vast majority of the Pakistani muhajirs (Urdu speaking and Punjabis) to understand what they think Pakistan really is despite all of its problems and issues. The idea of the original Pakistan, as noble as it was, turned out to be a difficult one to manage. When West Pakistanis and East Pakistanis disagreed, it was not over a religious difference, rather a political issue. Had Islam been such a weak link, the folks in BD would not be practicing it to this day.

Also you guys need to get over this theory of Pakistanis realizing their identity through India bashing. Pakistanis of today don't expect Indian Muslims to leave India and come over. However they feel and see the exploitation of Indian Muslims in India and speak out about it. The reason that Pakistanis are more vocal about this issue in India is because we can relate to this much better than we can relate to others suffering elsewhere.

There are people in Pakistan who have seen the exploitation, hate, and repression against/of Muslims in India first hand and this has left an indelible mark upon them and their progeny. So you can't so easily discount Pakistani concerns about the Muslims in India as only lip service and a way to justify Pakistan's existence. Also the past and current generation do not have to justify anything at your or the Indian expense any longer. The country has survived for 60 plus years with all its problems etc., but has given the Pakistani nation an identity that is still theirs even though the country has split up. Time to move on from the original idea and embrace and accept the Pakistan of today.

Also the word we use to describe ourselves is Muslim and not Moslem ;-)
 
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same pakistani nonsense again and again

Here's a similar report:

Campaign against Indian Muslims after Gujarat blasts

Monday, July 28, 2008 - 12:48 PM EST - 12 Reads
Section: War of Terrorism

Extremist Hindu organization Visva Hindu Prasad has begun campaign against the Muslims after a series of bomb blasts in Gujarat and announced to launch a movement against Jihadi terrorism in India from tomorrow.

Comment: Talk about terrorism and kill muslims with pleasure,Thank you USA. UK and Israel for guiding world on this path. And thanks Obama for toeing Bush and Blair's line. :disagree:

Campaign against Indian Muslims after Gujarat blasts
Appeal for calm as India braces for blasts aftermath
Monday July 28, 2008 (0928 PST)

AHMEDABAD: Extremist Hindu organization Visva Hindu Prasad has begun campaign against the Muslims after a series of bomb blasts in Gujarat and announced to launch a movement against Jihadi terrorism in India from tomorrow.

During this movement, Visva Hindu Prasad will hold rallies, meetings and demonstrations all over the country.

Geeneral-secretary of the organization Praveen Togarya blamed the Indian government that it supports the Muslims due to which jihadi terrorism is increasinf in the country.

He severely criticized the government policy for allocating quota for the Muslims in armed forces and other departments in India.

The extremist leader demanded from the government to close down all madrassas and end trade and diplomatic relations with Pakistan and Bangladesh for patronizing jihadi terrorism in India.

The Indian Muslim leaders have termed this announcement by the Hindu extremist organization a conspiracy for promoting Hidu-Muslim violence and clashes in India.

Earlier, Indian leaders appealed for calm on Sunday as the army was called out after a wave of bombings killed 45 people in Ahmedabad, a city rocked by deadly Hindu-Muslim riots six years ago.

The string of 16 bombings, which left more than 160 people injured, ripped through crowded places in the tinderbox western city — markets, buses and then hospitals struggling to treat the scores of victims.

They came just one day after another wave of nine bombings in the southern high-tech capital of Bangalore left one dead and several injured — prompting the government to put the entire country on high alert. Indian television channels said a little-known Islamist group calling itself the “Indian Mujahideen” had claimed responsibility for the attacks.

Bomb squads defused at least three unexploded devices in Ahmedabad on Sunday, Indian news channels reported, and police said they had also found a car laden with explosives in the diamond-polishing city of Surat.

Ahmedabad was calm on Sunday, with police, soldiers and paramilitary forces fanning out across the city, which is the commercial capital of Gujarat state. Joint police commissioner Ashish Bhatia told AFP a number of people had been detained after raids, but said no formal arrests had yet been made.

On the outskirts of India’s financial hub Mumbai, police raided a house from which the email claiming responsibility for the attacks may have been sent, reports said. President Pratibha Patil expressed her “grief and sorrow” and also “appealed to the people of Ahmedabad to maintain peace and harmony.” Prime Minister Manmohan Singh also appealed for calm.

Many of the victims had been peppered with red-hot nuts, bolts and ball bearings packed into bombs that were clearly designed to cause maximum casualties, doctors said.

At Ahmedabad’s Civil Hospital, one of two medical facilities that were hit, victims could be seen writhing in corridors after the attack, their bodies punctured by flying pellets, and crying for treatment from overstretched and panicked staff.

The hospital was hit by a car bomb, and was still littered with broken glass and charred debris and smeared with blood hours after the blast, an AFP correspondent witnessed. An army commander, who asked not to be named, said that “anger could spread once the bodies are handed back to relatives for cremations” and that the army had been deployed “as a major psychological deterrent to riots”.

“The army has been called in as a precautionary measure and its personnel are conducting flag marches,” additional police commissioner Mohan Jha told reporters. All the bombs were detonated with timer devices. The official Press Trust of India news agency put the latest toll at 45 dead and 162 injured.

The group which sent the email claim minutes before the actual explosions in Ahmedabad also warned of repeat attacks elsewhere in India, prompting major security alerts in major cities including the capital New Delhi.

“We have deployed an additional 3,000 personnel in the city to ensure foolproof security,” New Delhi police spokesman Rajan Bhagat said. Gujarat’s right-wing Hindu leader Narendra Modi warned he would not spare the culprits.

“The land of Mahatma Gandhi has been bloodied by terrorists whom we shall not spare,” said Modi, the firebrand chief minister of the state where India’s independence hero was born. “Terrorists are waging a war against India. We should be prepared for a long battle against terrorism.”

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why do u guys keep going back to gujrat riots over and over again? cant we just forgive it once? and how many more times will this be used to justify so many bombings and killing??

if a hindu is killed, it is because muslims were oppresed before, if a muslim is killed, it is because the muslims are oppressed. give it a break.
 
While I am not going to get drawn into this bash China bandwagon here (which is what is being instigated here), Muslims feel the same for their brethren be they Uighurs, Pakistanis, Indians, Japanes, Chechens, Bosnians, Indonesians etc. etc. Lets not mix Pakistan's politics and issues with India with those of Muslims and Islam.

As far you decrying the champions of Islam, I suggest you look inward first and worry about the double standards of your champions of democracy and their less than pristine reputation when it comes to democracy in Kashmir. Nobody is perfect!

Pakistan and Pakistanis support China and Chinese at various levels due to our converged interests and friendship. Chinese do not agree with everything that Pakistan or Pakistanis do and the same can be said about Pakistan and Pakistanis with regards to China.

No one is mixing the issue of religion and politics or merely Indians.

India, to you, may not be a perfect democracy, but it does not hold itself as the sole champion of democracy. Pakistan does indicate that she is the leader of the Islamic world. And yet, there is no word of sympathy for the Uighurs while shrill protestations are heard on every other ''repression'' of people of the Islamic faith, be it India, Russia, US, UK, France, Denmark, Holland or any other.

So, it is the Uighurs who are left out in the cold! Why this step motherly treatment?
 
Pakistan being broken up has less to do with religion and national cohesion and more to do with unrealistic idea of having a country spanning two geographical wings split up by a less than friendly neighbor.

You have to talk to a vast majority of the Pakistani muhajirs (Urdu speaking and Punjabis) to understand what they think Pakistan really is despite all of its problems and issues. The idea of the original Pakistan, as noble as it was, turned out to be a difficult one to manage. When West Pakistanis and East Pakistanis disagreed, it was not over a religious difference, rather a political issue. Had Islam been such a weak link, the folks in BD would not be practicing it to this day.

Also you guys need to get over this theory of Pakistanis realizing their identity through India bashing. Pakistanis of today don't expect Indian Muslims to leave India and come over. However they feel and see the exploitation of Indian Muslims in India and speak out about it. The reason that Pakistanis are more vocal about this issue in India is because we can relate to this much better than we can relate to others suffering elsewhere.

There are people in Pakistan who have seen the exploitation, hate, and repression against/of Muslims in India first hand and this has left an indelible mark upon them and their progeny. So you can't so easily discount Pakistani concerns about the Muslims in India as only lip service and a way to justify Pakistan's existence. Also the past and current generation do not have to justify anything at your or the Indian expense any longer. The country has survived for 60 plus years with all its problems etc., but has given the Pakistani nation an identity that is still theirs even though the country has split up. Time to move on from the original idea and embrace and accept the Pakistan of today.

Also the word we use to describe ourselves is Muslim and not Moslem ;-)

How a Mohajir feels in Pakistan has been mentioned in this very forum, where he mentioned he went for a job and while the employer was warm and friendly, as soon as the employer realised he was a Mohajir, he was a bit uncomfortable.

As far as Bangaldeshi are concerned, it was not a question of distance that made Bangladesh come into existence, it was the superiority complex of the West Pakistanis that prevent Mujabir take the reins of the govt. Such a complex of sheer disdain towards the Bangladeshis are evident in many of the posts on various thread here itself!

Why should one change (Bangladeshis) one's religion? Islam is not the sole prerogative of Pakistan, or is it?

I do agree that Pakistan has a whole lot of problems and I am sure you will survive they way you have done so remarkably well these last 60 years.

I am sure all will agree is that Paksitan is very much there to stay!

As far as the word Mos.lem is concerned, I have shown to the Webmaster that the spelling is used by worthy Islamic institutions of repute and is not derogatory. However, to keep to your sensitivity, I use the words ''people of the Islamic faith''. The spelling still continues to be in vogue and is quite fair.
 
as seen in history hindus and muslims will never get along
as jinnah have said our cultures are completely different as well as our beliefs and practices.
there are many few places in the world where muslims and hindus have gotten along but eventually something will problems among the 2
 

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