Cambodia & Laos Defence Forum

[Aepsilons]

@DESERT FIGHTER ,

What I love the most about Pakistan Air Force:

Their Impressive Fleet of F-16s:

 

[SvenSvensonov]

These are beautiful! Is this Pakistani Army's Bell 407?

No, that picture is of the Eurocopter AS550 Fennec, this is a PA Bell 407:

Compared to the EuroCopter Fennec:

 

[Carlosa]

These are beautiful! Is this Pakistani Army's Bell 407?

Eurocopter.

 

[Carlosa]

Yes, I agree that it was not the best decision for them to purchase such helicopters. It was only 4 months after the 'handing ceremony' that the first crash occurred. Since 12 copters cost a combined whopping $195 million, each copter is "worth" around $16 million.

That's too much. $16 million could have gone a long way to purchasing 4-5 maritime patrol boats or riverine craft, or APCs for the Cambodian Army. Or could have been used to build schools, and other much-needed infrastructure in Cambodia.

That's one third of their military budget.

 

[Aepsilons]

Thanks @SvenSvensonov and mi amigo @Carlosa for that clarification.

 

[Carlosa]

@DESERT FIGHTER ,

What I love the most about Pakistan Air Force:

Their Impressive Fleet of F-16s:

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The F-16's are a legend.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

These are beautiful! Is this Pakistani Army's Bell 407?

Yes thats a Pakistan Army (its Pakistan or Pak Army not Pakistani Army .. common mistake) thats a eurocopter fennec AS550...

 

[Aepsilons]

That's one third of their military budget.

This is why its important for nations to be practical.

There is a saying: "When one has a small mouth, do not have hungry eyes.."

 

[Aepsilons]

The Cambodian Air Force needs to replace and upgrade its aging fleet of Mig-21s. I believe they can avail of Pakistan Air Force's JF-17 Thunder:

The cost of 1 craft is around $15 million. This is affordable, practical, and a highly capable aircraft. Cambodia should look into this.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

No, that picture is of the Eurocopter AS550 Fennec, this is a PA Bell 407:

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Compared to the EuroCopter Fennec:

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We operate both 550 and Écureuil variant:

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The Cambodian Air Force needs to replace and upgrade its aging fleet of Mig-21s. I believe they can avail of Pakistan Air Force's JF-17 Thunder:

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The cost of 1 craft is around $15 million. This is affordable, practical, and a highly capable aircraft. Cambodia

No more 15 million bro... its about 35 million for Blk2... BLK-I production has ended and all 1s are being upgraded to 2 status/

 

[Aepsilons]

We operate both 550 and Écureuil variant:

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Love the pictures!! Dayumm! Really impressed with the wide array of inventory of Pakistan Army and Pakistan Air Force.

 

[Aepsilons]

No more 15 million bro... its about 35 million for Blk2... BLK-I production has ended and all 1s are being upgraded to 2 status/

Is there any way that Pakistan can produce Block 1s for Cambodia? I can see Pakistan having a potential customer base in Laos, Cambodia who are looking to upgrade their Mig-21s. It doesn't have to be as advanced as the JF-17 Block2s, I believe Block1s can do well for them.

 

[Carlosa]

The Cambodian Air Force needs to replace and upgrade its aging fleet of Mig-21s. I believe they can avail of Pakistan Air Force's JF-17 Thunder:

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The cost of 1 craft is around $15 million. This is affordable, practical, and a highly capable aircraft. Cambodia should look into this.

yes, makes sense, but I will go as far as to say, forget about jets, they are not as good as what the possible enemies have so they will not survive, better spend the money on SAM systems, cheaper, cheaper maintenance cost and they will shoot down enemy jets which otherwise, it will not happen.

 

[Carlosa]

Is there any way that Pakistan can produce Block 1s for Cambodia? I can see Pakistan having a potential customer base in Laos, Cambodia who are looking to upgrade their Mig-21s. It doesn't have to be as advanced as the JF-17 Block2s, I believe Block1s can do well for them.

You are thinking from the perspective of price, but can a JF-17 block 1survive against an F-16 or grippen? No, it wont. But an 11 million Spyder firing unit will surely shoot them down.

 

[Aepsilons]

You are thinking from the perspective of price, but can a JF-17 block 1survive against an F-16 or grippen? No, it wont. But an 11 million Spyder firing unit will surely shoot them down.

I think that the JF-17 Thunder Block 2s can definitely take on the F-16 Block A/Cs that are in the Thai Air Force.